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AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Got my first down doot!!!!! Finally said something somebody didn't like. Dont know why cause I got 9 up doots from others!!!! Should I be scared a blue haired shreiker is after me??? Probably get down doots on this!!! LOL!
I thought I'd help out by giving you a downdoogle*NB.
If you just got your first downdoogle, then you need a few more. They'll make you more robust, if you can weather the storm. But no, don't have to fear the blue haired shriekers. Downdoots and downdoogles originate from a variety of source, some legit, some not so legit.
NB: updoogles have been found to be 45% more effective than updoots (Source: Scientific American Journal, Vol 17.)
Quite the psychological game you have going there. You are asking for it, but then you end with a taunt.
Fairly clever, bastard
Fairly clever bastard
WHICH. IS. IT?
Take your pick been called both, and worse. It was probably a handshake like me that hasn't learned the board. I probably gave some down doots also and didn't know I did!
I'm just saying you're a bastard, but in a good way
For many decades in the previous century, in Australia, "bastard" was a popular and frequently used term of affection between men.
As in "Owya goin ya old bastard?"
I understand. And appreciate it! Thank you!
Congrats, you are now one of us.
KEWL! I haven't graduated to the suspension club yet, but I am trying to avoid that club!
Wait. You're account is 11 days old? So you actually haven't lurked long time. Hmmm...
biden building charging stations while the rest of the world is building army meme
I dunno why, but this created an image in my mine where that trans health official in Biden - Levine or something - is giving a speech at White House, when he suddenly pauses mid sentence, and Biden comes running saying "See I told you it will be useful" and starts charging the trans guy by plugging his cable into a nearby pole marked "Charging Stattion for Cyborgs". Kek.
Why is it that we hate TikTok, again? Why is it a threat? Is TikTok any worse than Twitter and Facebook, or are we being told that it is because Congress doesn’t control it?
Tik Tok is literally Chinese Spyware, even more so than what’s already on your phone.
It exposes children to porn and other neuron-killing content. It will make your children socially messed up, crowd pleasing deviants.
I was wondering the same thing. How is TikTok any different than all the rest of the globohomo spy shit?
Because the CCP is the primary geopolitical pawn of the DS, and having the TikTok app on your phone gives them full access.
That means they can accumulate data on Americans as a whole, which they will use to harm / kill us. If you're a patriot, they can easily use that data to target you for coercion or other abusive manipulation (which will harm the greater patriot movement).
Oh -- and Trump himself repeatedly warned against TikTok many times.
Do you really need a better reason?
It's rare that I downpoot someone (the OC, not you, you got a doot) for asking a question, but not knowing this, esp the DJT part...just...how?
I don't understand the appeal of Tiktok in the first place, except for social media addicts. When you consider the CCP connection I can't see why any patriot would defend that platform.
Chyna spy with more than barroon. kek Here are a few links.
I can't find one article I read about the algos sending suicide videos to teenage users if they put in anything about being depressed. That was the real eye opener piece for me. Wish I could find it.
Edit - found it https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.sumofus.org/images/eko_Tiktok-Report_FINAL.pdf
The DS and neocons are desperate for excuses to start a war with china, so they resort to scapegoating stupid shit like tik tok
The secret world of Japanese senior citizens:
PS. Ningen Isu 人間椅子 translates directly to "Human Chair" in English.
The bald guy in the monk suit is most definitely a big KISS fan, methinks.
On an unrelated note, have you seen/heard "Chicken attack", RT?
Strongest geomagnetic storm in 5 years last night.
Anyone else felt the effects?
Yes! We had a lightning strike that caused the bulbs in our house to glow brighter. I kid you not. It was the weirdest thing. I have never experienced anything like that before. Not even sure what would cause it. They didn’t dim afterwards.
Turn off the router! No games, no social interaction. Turn off phone privileges (if the child has one) at 8pm. Make a nice big dinner, perhaps with turkey and gravy, to eat no later than 6pm - lots of tryptophan for sleepiness making. Time to turn the ship around! Turn off the main TV by 8:30, take the remote. Good night!
All my router does is route. It's an ancient Netgear from when things were still made right apparently - I literally can't remember when I got it but I wanna say like 2000. It throttles my internet significantly but I don't do anything requiring much bandwidth so I'm fine with it.
Edit: Knock on my hard wooden head.
@Jack put Bluesky in the App Store a few days ago. https://www.news9live.com/technology/app-news/jack-dorseys-bluesky-social-debuts-on-the-app-store-as-a-twitter-look-alike-au2181-2080013
u/purkiss80 mentioned it about three weeks ago. https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTHG0VJ0/icymi--jack-launches-bluesky-to-/c/
I have a degoogled phone, so I don't use the App Store or the Play Store, but I'm not seeing it in the Aurora Store. Does anyone have eyes on this? Decentralized social media seems like something we should keep eyes on, at the very least.
I wouldn't touch anything Dorsey creates with a foot long pole.
Or him, for that matter
Just look at him, he's covered in cooties
Patchouli is an odor, not a fragrance
Same. But eyes on.
No! The spray bottle did NOT work. Any suggestions on how to wake a 9 year old who wants to stay up all night and not get out of bed on a school morning?
As a kid who was also a notorious oversleeper, it's because your child isn't motivated. I would take time to figure out why that is, and learn how to motivate them. Spraying them with a bottle or banging a saucepan is just gonna make everyone tense
Had a talk with his Mother when she got home. She is going to start waking him up when she goes out the door at 4:15AM and make him take a shower. Then we will see what happens. If not, he will be getting out of bed at 2 AM when she wakens and kept awake until the bus arrives.
I think that's a pretty terrible idea, tbh. I can tell you right now, that's only going to make things more combative. You don't want to start a war with your child
We've tried everything else. We will eventually find something that works.
giving him less sleep is going to be bad for his development and growth, and won't improve his temperament, his moods, or the issue of getting him awake in the morning. I've dealt with this with my kids, the solution is getting him to bed WAYYYYYY earlier in the evening.
The best way to do that, is to 1. wear him out with physical activity before dinner 2. a good nutritious dinner 3. Lights dimmed and quiet time an hour or two before the planned bedtime 4. no electronics in bed. 5. Blackout curtains in his room if daylight at bedtime is a problem. 6. If nothing else is working, eliminate sugar and additives/preservatives from their diets until they develop better sleeping habits.
There are some nights where kids that age just get insomnia. But keep steady at it, and habits will improve within the week.
If you two start this shit where you just get him up earlier and earlier, then you are just using him as a go-between to fight with eachother about how bedtime should be approached. And he will be stuck in the middle, getting mixed messages, and being sleep deprived by both of you. It also makes you both into the bad-cop. Since you are grandma, you are supposed to be good-cop.
Forcing kids to get less sleep than their body needs is asking for temper tantrums, crying, and other mood problems. It's setting the kid up for failure for the rest of his day. His friendships, grades, and ability to self-regulate his emotions could all suffer from forcing him to get less sleep. His little growing mind and body need all the sleep they can get.
My kids all know if they can't wake up on time, then that very night their bedtime will be moved up an hour. If they still can't get up on time, their bedtime will be moved up an hour again. And again. I don't care if they're going to bed at six pm, maybe they just need 12 hours of sleep a few times.
Good points. But our thoughts was that (IF) we got him up at that hour; then he would be ready to go to bed around 7 or 8 with no problem; just like we do. And dimming lights and quiet time before bed wouldn't work as he shares a bedroom with 2 other brothers. All these boys do is 'fight' and 'complain' as boys do. It is an argument between them all from the time they wake until the time they go to sleep. I have never seen anything like it. These are my step-grandchildren as I wasn't a part of their lives until they youngest was 5. Their ages now are 8, 9, and 10. So they are at that close of an age where all they want to do is fight and argue.
They argue over who gets on the bus first, so now I have to appoint them days. I started with the oldest, then the middle, then the youngest. Then they argued over who got to bring the mail inside. So whoever's day it is to get on the bus first is who gets to bring in the mail. Then they argued over NOT wanting to brush their teeth. So whoever's day it is is the first one to brush their teeth. You have to 'buckle' down on them and beat them at their own game. So I have tried different ways to work things out for the better. It's just this sleep problem got the best of me this week so I cried out for some help. Thanks for all the suggestions I have gotten as I have written them down. God bless you all.
I don't know how you're doing this job for mom without going batty!!! Prayed for you and your family for a few mins this morning. The level of creativity you must need with all those kids is unbelievable. My siblings fought a LOT there for a while, but we weren't a pack of boys 1 year apart, that would be crazy.
Maybe the only solution is to turn them into the partridge family, omg.... "If you kids can't get along we're gonna sing Come On Get Happy AGAIN!!!"
It's rare, but sometimes I need 12 hours of sleep LOL.
I’m raising my grandchildren. It’s tough. Hugs to you. My daughter teaches elementary art and is a Godsend. The issue is electronics. It keeps their attention span really short. He needs something to do besides the tablet or phone.
One hour at least before bedtime the electronics need to go into Moms bedroom. The last hour he can watch a movie ( not YouTube or cartoons). Something to calm him down. He can choose to read a book put maybe play legos.
When you are there try playing board games. My grandsons are 8 and 10 and love chess and poker. Piker sneakily teaches math but we will let that be our secret. Lol
Maybe he can help cook or build something out of wood even make cards for mom and Dad. Boredom is such a problem for a generation that is used to instant gratification.
I’ll ask my daughter for suggestions. Her method w have always worked for me.
Something she taught me is not to tell but to bend down to their level and speak softly. If you want their attention whisper in their ear. It works like magic
We all live in the country and there is a shortage of bus drivers so there bus has to do two routes. They get home around 4 PM in which I spend that time before their mom gets home helping him do his math. The oldest one doesn;t care about his grades because of the "NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND POLICY' and the youngest does excellent in school. The 4 year old is on Nursery Rhymes as he is in Head Start. So the hard to wake ADHD one is the one I spend my afternoon/early evening teaching him the math that he has a hard time of comprehending. Tell your daughter 'Thanks' for the wonderful suggestions. The whisper and speak softly will most likely work.
She also said keeping the routine is a must even if it sucks for Mom a bit. Kids thrive best on routine. Also limit tablet time or make it be educational. My boys love board games and you can get them cheap at thrift stores.
You haven't tried everything else though. Just a few minutes ago someone suggested a more motivating and encouraging idea (the sticker system) that wasn't combative and you commented as if you hadn't heard of it/tried it
You are trying to use force and antagonizing tactics to get him out of bed. You need a totally different motivational approach
I also said that I WOULD SUGGEST IT to his Mother. No one said that I was trying combative ways of waking him. Only you. God bless and have a wonderful day my friend.
Yes, I know. That's great that you would suggest it. The fact that you're suggesting it means you hadn't tried it yet.
So stop trying antagonistic tactics like pots and pans and leaf blowers, and start suggesting more encouraging options. The sticker system is a great start. Keep thinking more on those lines.
Your reply to me was a combative solution though!
^ How is this not combative?
Don’t let them stay up all night. Take away their devices. The problem is not waking them up, the problem is, you’re allowing them to stay up all night. It’s clearly the adults fault.
When my son is home, he shuts them off from all devices on school nights. But when he is gone every 2 weeks for his 2 week stint in the oil fields, his wife lets them do what they want as she gets up at 2 AM and is tired after getting home at around 4 PM. She is not awake to see what they are doing. I do NOT live with them. I live 3 miles down the road and come in to babysit everyday. So it is not my fault.
Wow. It sounds like a difficult situation. If the mother is absent, and cannot take proper care of them, that's the real issue I think. (Saying so probably doesn't help, but...)
Pure cause and effect. If the cause is that there is no proper supervision when it's necessary (aka 6pm onwards until bedtime), then no amount of rear end solutions (waking, doing x or whatever) will have any lasting effect, imo.
That might sound harsh, but that's the reality.
I think that rooftops suggestion is likely one of the best. A reading time before bed yields so many benefits. Greater connectedness, better sleep for the child, fostering a love of books and reading, etc. In this case, better sleeping hours and more normal sleep / wake patterns.
If the mother is not available, is there an older sibling, who could read? Are there a number of them?
Removal of the devices past 8pm or so is an absolutely necessary move, but we don't really know enough about the circumstances there to know how that might be achieved.
Take courage as you fight on! Prayer will be a good starting point.
Thank you for your suggestion. There is NO HOPE for the removal of the electronics unless my son is home. But once he's gone for 2 weeks, she simply gives them back to them. I counted the electronics the other day, there are 5 Tablets, 4 Laptops, 4 handheld Nintendoes, 2 X Boxes with TV's, and 1 Play Station. My son has the Internet on an App on his phone where he can shut it all down. So I called him and told him he needs to shut it all off at at least 8 PM EVERY NIGHT. This will probably cause a squabble between me and the mother, but hey! someone has got to say something.
Hang in there, nan.
you could literally steal the electronics. You can steal his tablet. And just "have no idea where it went". Or steal all the chargers. Woopsie.
It adds an extra dimension that she's not your daughter, so you have to play politics with her about this, what a pain in the ass.
I didn’t say it’s your fault. I said it’s the adults fault. If that happens to be the mother - then it’s her fault! Perhaps you could make a suggestion to her or your son or both?
Yes and I'm sorry that that came out that way. It has been a very trying day and I aim to give her all the suggestions every passed my way. Truly I am sorry. I also bit someone elses head off on here that I didn't mean too. So please forgive me as I do need a break from the monotony of it all.
No worries! I understand it’s a sensitive subject, and I would never want to offend you personally. You are my FREN! 🐸
Christ is in us, so patient, so understanding, so how could I not be with a fellow friend. God bless you and have a great day.
Thank you for understanding. God bless you and I pray you have a very lovely weekend.
Actually, I could like to ask for prayer for my mom. She fell, and her ribs were bruised. But now she’s having back pain so we don’t know if there’s a vertebrae that was damaged. There’s more details, but I don’t wanna get into all of it. Your prayers would be greatly appreciated.
you could use some type of visual sticker chart that appeals to 'his' interests. make it big & the stickers motivating/get a timer & break the chart into chunks of the day that would be manageable- morning, afternoon, evening-closer increments depending on behavior level.
then when he has a positive period of time, he gets a sticker. so many stickers & he can 'buy' rewards. also start helping him make a list of positive rewards & 'why' that is the best choice, so he's not just picking crap. also remind him that many people struggle to make such products for low wages, so be mindful of their time & energy.
Thank you much friend. I will suggest this to his mother.
another idea: this worked for my kids...
Before bed, we used to do wind-down time, and that was always reading hour. Well most of the time, my kids at that age wanted me to read to them. We often did THEIR favorite books. But I would alternate those with EXTREMELY advanced books, such as Art of War, The Prince by Machiavelli, maybe some Charles Dickens or some Mario Puzo, or Agatha Christie, or some Partick O'Brian.... something that's like an adult-level classic.
They get this attitude like they are so cool because they're getting really advanced stuff. It primes them to learn how to read on an advanced level faster, and it also puts them to sleep a little faster too at bedtime.
Nothing puts my kids to sleep faster than some Charles Dickens, but they love it. As long as you keep alternating some of THEIR favorite books into the mix too, otherwise they get bored if you do it all the time.
That would be a great idea if the Mother wasn't 'dead on her feet' when she got home. Remember, she gets up around 2/ 2:30 AM just like I do and has to be at work by 5 AM. Her job is about 25 mile away and so it's a slight drive in the darkness. By the time she get's off at 3:30 PM she is 'spent.' Then sometimes she has to stop by the grocery as the 2 year old drinks a lot of milk. So she may not get home until 5 Pm. Then she has to cook supper and give the 2 smallest kids their baths. The 3 older boys then have to get theirs and by that time she is 'OUT.' I will suggest this as it sounds like a very good idea. I wish she didn't work so hard and would take more time for the kids, but that's not for me to decide. God bless.
thats the worst part about being a grandparent, not getting any say in whatever mom decides.
You actually sound like an impressive parent.
awww thanks! <3 One of my sons, his favorite book at the age of 6 was Machiavelli's The Prince. I wondered if I was in trouble then.... kekekek
But you really can throw the kids in the deep end of the pool when it comes to literature, show them things that are really fun and really difficult, and they just adapt, they're like sponges at that age. You get them acclimated to it, and then in jr hi and high school they just breeze through their lit classes. Because by then they're already used to much more challenging shit.
you're welcome:) it's often called a 'token economy' if you want to look up examples
I will and thanks again.
Cake for breakfast.
I am not lying.
Cake for breakfast got me out of bed ASAP
Bake a delicious birthday cake, chocolate cake, his favorite cake, without him knowing
and tell him there is cake for breakfast, he won't believe you the first time then when he gets to the table (mind blown)
Pizza for breakfast is also an option
I am trying to take the whimsical, sweet route by the way. I am sure there are other methods but my thing is...
I didn't have a tablet as a child (they didn't exist) I would still stay up in bed wondering what super hero would beat who or thinking about pretty girls. So even without screens, when kids want to stay up, they will stay up.
So true. But the Cake won't matter, neither will the pizza. They basically live on the stuff.
and that's gonna exacerbate the problem with their insomnia. If my kids can't get to bed on time, we do a few weeks of no sugar, no additives and that works great.
Right. Sugar is very bad especially for kids with ADHD.
Do you think Mighty Mouse could beat up Superman? I saw the other day, he was carrying five elephants in one hand!
i used to stay up and read with a flashlight under my covers!
cake = you are clearly a professional child wrangler. I sometimes would take my kids out for cupcakes in the mornings, but that was usually a weekend thing. It would be hard being the grandparent because you don't really get to dictate the terms.
I'd say wear the kid out the day before. Swimming, trampoline park, skating, something where they will play til they drop. Then dinner and a movie, and they will be out like a light pretty early in the evening, at least in my experience.
You can also purposely run out the battery on the tablet, and then "accidentally" lose the charger sometime before bed.
As others have said, after bedtime the tablet needs to be forbidden.
Blue light keeps you awake, internet / games / social media keep the dopamine flowing. Makes it impossible to fall asleep naturally.
Without adequate sleep, really can't blame the child for not wanting to get up.
Right. That's why I asked his Mother to start waking him at 2 or 2:30 AM when she gets up and DON"T let him lay back down. She said she will wake him at 4:15AM when she leaves for work and make him start taking a shower every morning. She said he would fall asleep in the tub, so that is out. This way it should wake him up and make him alert. PLUS. she will be waking him up and not ME.
his body is trying to tell him and yall that he needs MORE sleep, not less.
That is what we are wanting to do. Get him up early and tire him out quite a bit for a couple of days until we can get his body adjusted to where he is completely tired out, body and mind and he can sleep. The bus here runs at 6 AM sharp and it is still dark outside and with a bus driver who has to run 2 afternoon routes due to a bus driver shortage, sometimes they don't get home until 4 PM. So we HAVE to adjust his sleep to help him get on the Bus schedule. We are not doing it for cruelty. We are simply trying to help him adjust. After about 2 days of getting up at 2 AM then we can do 3 AM and then 4 Am and then get back to our regular 5 AM schedule. We were going to do this in increments to help his internal circadian rhythms ( that is if his is working at this time.)
Remove the bedding and drag him out of bed by his feet? Bang a spoon on a saucepan?
Firm handling is definitely needed. If this is a regular occurrence, maybe a mild herbal sleep aid would help to re-set his circadian rhythm.
That is what my parents did with me. Lol.
My son has done that and so has Papaw. My son has went as far as going to the garage and getting the leaf blower and turning it on him. This however wakes up my 2 year old granddaughter which is too early for her to get up. His mother is going to try other options after I talked to her today. I threatened to QUIT and let her and my son find a new sitter.
My mom did these things to me.
All it did was cause more yelling and screaming in the morning tbh bc my sisters would wake up too
I just thought of a slogan.
~ Genchat. It's better even than ChatGPT. ~
What about FrenChat ?
Any european hat should be fine....
🤭Okidoki: PedeChat, then🤓
Well yesterday's genchat was lively, wasn't it.
Question of the Day:
What is a fashion trend from your past that you wish would come back in style?
Maybe not from my past, but I‘ve heard older people complain about the current trend of suit jackets only having the top button fastened. They point out the sloppiness of the tie, shirt, and belt revealed in a triangle below the top button.
I’ve just been doing the top button probably out of habit or haste, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the old style come back of fastening two or three buttons.
Such a practical accessory.
Before they got too phat, yes. There were also good shirt styles - tees like Anarchic Adjustment (you can still get many of the Alien Workshop ones actually btw) as well as nicer stuff like Greed etc. This was the only time in my life I really paid attention to this stuff, because it was actually interesting.
I knew you'd appreciate it. 😃
I was a Grind brand guy. And the shirts were dope, clever and subversive. Early Fresh Jive, etc.
The "underground" really created a nice little alternative economy BITD.
Yep on early Fresh Jive. Not sure what the heck happened. Bought out? Their stuff now is straight up gangsta BS.
Clever/subversive. Yup the logo ripoffs etc were insane.
I don't know if I actually new about "Grind." I had some button-fly "Pleasure Swell" pants that spelled out "SWELL" in the metal buttons. I lost one of the buttons when these dude bro frat fucks were at a rave and had their shirts off so I got the idea that me and my friends (about 5 ppl participated in this) pull down our pants and dance around them in our underwear. I don't think they noticed but the regular ravers thought it was hilarious.
remember those colorchange shirts?
Yep though I actually didn't favor them.
as for me, I would bring back moon boots.