This is how the f*ckwit flat earth scam works. Over many months, they drop lie after tiny lie, and count on you not to do your research. Like this one. NASA destroyed the moon tapes? No, they SOLD them. At auction. To GARY GEORGE. For $218. He later sold them at Sotheby's for $1.82 million! (media.greatawakening.win)
***Space nerd, here. Isn't it interesting that the tards conveniently omit the story of Gary George who, in 1976, bought a collection of videotapes at a government surplus auction. Unbeknownst to him at the time, the tapes he purchased contained original footage of the Apollo 11 Moon landing, which took place in 1969.
Gary George was an intern at NASA when he purchased the tapes for around $218. The collection contained over a thousand reels, and George initially sold and donated most of the tapes to local television stations and schools. It wasn't until years later that he realized the historical significance of the remaining tapes in his possession.
These tapes contained raw, unprocessed footage of the Apollo 11 Moon landing, including Neil Armstrong's first steps on the lunar surface and the planting of the American flag. The video quality of this footage was significantly better than what was broadcasted on television at the time, as the broadcast signals had to be compressed and converted to fit the analog TV standards.
In 2019, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission, George decided to sell the tapes at a Sotheby's auction. The tapes, which were described as "the earliest, sharpest, and most accurate surviving video images of man's first steps on the Moon," were sold for a staggering $1.82 million.
RESIST THE FLAT EARTH FAGGOTS. DO YOUR RESEARCH.
PS. If you want a space conspiracy, tune in and watch the $10B JWST telescope (currently in orbit in the gravity well that is L2, one million miles from the moon) as it completely destroys the Big Bang theory with what it is discovering at the edges of time. Absolutely mind blowing, and the Deep State academia is absolutely in a panic. Their control over the narrative, the story of creation, the beginning of life itself, the beginning of the material world, everything, is totally collapsing before our very eyes and there is nothing that they can do about it.
Astronomy has been a hobby of mine since I got my first telescope and Dad and I set it up in the backyard to watch for skylab.
I have seen Lunar libration with my own eyes. At any one time only 50% of the moons surface is visible but libration allows you to see another 9%, over time. I have seen the normally invisible Mare Orientalis, the largest crater on the moon, coming over the horizon during a libration.
I have seen the rings of Saturn where they disappear behind the planet. I have watched the moons of Jupiter and Saturn disappear around the backside and have done the math myself to figure out when they would reappear.
I have also tracked Orion across the sky and done the accompanying math to predict its position. I track the movement of Polaris to note the progress of it moving on and Vega becoming the new North Star. I have fun with the math. They are like puzzles for me. And this all is useful for orienteering.
Pythagoras sundial in 500 BC proved the earth is round. Aristotle wrote:
Eratosthenes first did the math predicting the circumference of the earth.
Fucking 2500 years the world has known or suspected that heavenly bodies are spherical and you have the psyop neanderthal idiots claiming it is flat. Former C_A Director William Casey said:
Flat earth is utter nonsense.
Utter nonsense. Also, we lost so much science thanks to Genghis Khan burning the Baghdad library, which at the time was one of the centerpieces of Persian science. Also turkey used to be one of the main science centers of the Ottoman Empire, and in fact, Turkey is where we get the shroud of turin, where it was originally protected after the death of christ. We have lost so much human knowledge over the centuries is just crazy. Great comment, frog.
One of the flat earthers favorite 'proofs' is that nobody has actually seen the curvature of the Earth. Look through a telescope and you can see for yourself the curvature of the moon. Sail on the sea with only a clock and astrolabe for navigation.
Question for you:
have you personally seen landing sites on the moon?
How brave are you? https://www.mymoviesplus.com/level
Crazy. I never knew this, cats! What a lucky bastard! Lol
Right?? He got enough money to buy himself a bouncing car that can replicate the moon's gravity! ahhahaha :)
HAAAHAHA!!! cheers. That's hilarious.
I am intrigued. Can you fill us in on that, or provide us with some links so we can look into this ourselves?
Absolutely, mate. JWST is absolutely laying WASTE to so many long cherished astronomy and other space theories, it's just comical to watch all these tenured astrophysicists scramble to explain what they are seeing.
Here is a good overview of the last year of JWST:
And here is an excellent hour-long lecture how that covers just a little bit in depth, but not too bad, some of the ways that jwst is rocking the foundations of the space science community:
I have been watching closely. The JWST recently focused on a galaxy whose light is older than their estimated age for the universe. They throw shit (thats what the big bang theory is, shit, expansion too) at the wall and hope it sticks. Or they know but just lie to the unwashed masses. Probably a bit of both.
Particle physics is another sore spot for me.
Well, to be honest, I follow this pretty closely, and I haven't seen that news, yet. Anything you can share on that?
Im not sure where I read the exact statement that the light is older than the age of the universe but it was within the last month so I know my memory isnt that far off. Of course I easily could have misread it, but I dont think so.
Anyway here is something close:
For those unaware, redshift is similar to the doppler effect.
And here is two preprint papers:
But by using deduction, if a galaxy is at redshift 20, just 180 million years after their big bang, and contains billions of stars already, there isnt enough time for this to have happened through the commonly accepted theories of the big bang and galaxy formation. If its found to have a few million sun strong black hole at its center then your are really going to have to rethink the 'science'.
Its really the study of black holes though that has me throwing the big bang out with the bathwater.
Why would this have to throw the big bang theory out? Couldn't this just as easily prove that their age of the Universe is wildly off?
These videos belong to the american people, you paid for them in taxes.
are they available to view somewhere?
It's a strange meme. I don't know why someone would link the Apollo moon landing psyop with flat earth nonsense.
The claims regarding telemetry are correct.To the best of NASA's knowledge, they reused the magnetic reals to 'save money'.
It's logical to delete a portion of evidence as it relates to a historic first for mankind, /sarc.
My guess is the telemetry was just simulation data sent from Bellcom. Probably why it had to be deleted.
Rewritten because I'm a part time mongo and missed the link between flat earth and moon landing on the meme.
I thought we weren't supposed to discuss this topic on GA? Wasn't that the deal we all agreed to honor?
Sorry, apologies, this meme is indeed about flat earth, but, the FE is actually secondary to my main point in posting this. One can relate it to this post, as well, which was not about FE at all, but was about the "they're already all been executed and have been replaced with body doubles." This post is more focused on drawing attention to the sneaky ways the DS inserts doubt and crazy conspiracy theories into our movement, by using repetition to stress you into not being able to research every lie, and eventually their lies slip into the realm of fact. Here is the previous exact point I made, here:
Hope this makes sense, frog.
Hmmm, that opening sentence sure looks like a direct attack to me. Seems like unfair play any way you slice it. Very disappointing...GA dies a little more each day it seems.
I guess it's probably time for me to move on as the establishment defenders around here are promoted more than ever before in recent times.
What? No, absolutely not an attack on you, frog. What did you say that was accurately described in my reply? I don't see it. But, it's soooo hard to maintain a 'perfect' record with every reply. If you felt targeted, I apologize. :)
I believe he is taking about the first sentence of your OP title
Wrongthink is a helluva drug. It can get you banned
My catsban was 14 days.
The data tapes exist, but NASA no longer had the computer equipment to read them. Somebody had equipment, and a group bought an abandoned McDonald's and set up shop with the equipment to copy the tapes, process them, and retrieve usable data.
YESSSS, holy shit, another space nerd. Haha, username checks out. The project you're referring to was called the Lunar Orbiter Image Recovery Project (LOIRP). One very important correction to your comment, however: these tapes were from the Lunar Orbiter missions and not directly related to the telemetry data of the Apollo missions. Still, the project showcases the challenges and innovation that had to be deployed to recover and preserve this critical, historical data from the early years of space exploration. The mission's aim was to recover and digitize data from the Lunar Orbiter missions of the 1960s. These missions were all about mapping the Moon's surface to prep for the Apollo lunar landings.
But, it was basically the same challenge, so your comment totally holds. The original data tapes from the Lunar Orbiter missions were stored at the National Archives, but the tech to read them had become pretty much obsolete. So, in the early 2000s, a team led by Dennis Wingo and Keith Cowing managed to get their hands on the old tape drives and tapes. They set up their operation in an abandoned McDonald's building at NASA Ames Research Center in California.
Nice work, frog.
Thanks. I knew I'd read a long story about it, but misremembered exactly where the data was from.
BTW, I recently had 5 huge hard drives seemingly bit the dust. So right now, I'm in the process of hooking them up one at a time to copy everything off to a new NAS. The NAS has eight 16TB drives. I kept them separate instead of a RAID, as I've had problems before. It's odd that the drives seem to fail, but so far, I'm at #4 and still copying successfully. It takes close to a week for each one.
Hopefully I won't have to use data recovery on the remaining drive.
So they sold federally owned (the peoples') historic material instead of sending them to the Library of Congress?
Simple observation. Every other body in the universe is round. Why would the earth be flat?
I'm not convinced that there was a manned mission to the moon, I'd have to see better evidence of it, it was politically expedient for the US to lie about a manned moon mission as part of the space race during the cold war. It's cheaper to fake going to the moon than to actually go there.
Flat earth theory is ridiculous though
There's SOOOO much evidence to support it. Even graphics cards support it! LOL, check this out:
NVIDIA analyzes the moon landings:
I watched it.
My misgivings about the moon landings are technical and political and aren't based on inconsistencies in the moon pictures.
All this video did was to use models to reproduce the pictures and their controversial artifacts and because "debunking" was the aim, they tuned the model to produce the artifacts. Since this wasn't the reason I doubted the moon mission, it doesn't make any difference to me and just looks lame.
Also if people talk about "debunking conspiracies" like this presenter did, you know they don't have an open mind or they have an agenda.
I'm quite happy to coexist with people who believe we landed on the moon and I usually don't need to talk about it, but I am in serious doubt about the moon mission and this video just adds to that.
You suspended me catsfive, for 10 days because I commented on a post of someones about FE and or NASA. Please don't suspend or ban me again for commenting on your own post that obviously wants comments. I too am a space nerd but not in the same degree as most. I see space as fiction and it is my favorite genre for reading good science fiction stories but to me it is purely fiction. That is actually how NASA began. Ron L Hubbard, (Scientology) who wrote hundreds of science fiction books before there was even Buck Rogers, was best friends, roomates and fellow occultist with Jack Parsons, the father of rocketry which is where NASA got its start. NASA has tried to write Parsons out of their beginning because he was into the occult, satanism and dark magic and it causes too many questions. There would not be NASA without Hubbard, Parsons, Disney and Wernher von Braun. https://thenewwworld.com/nasa
This post is not about Flat Earth. Please see this comment for an explanation:
Psyop nonsense. You should be ashamed for falling for it.
Same could be said of you. (Bart Sibrel has joined the chat)
No it cant because I have 2500 years worth of observation and my own independent study that prove the earth and all heavenly bodies are spherical. Flat earthers have nothing but strawmen.
Pardon me: I was referring to the moon landings. FE is nonsense, agreed.
Bart Sibrel makes an extremely convincing case. I started looking into it a few years ago out of curiosity as I thought it absurd. However, in light of the scale of the edifice of lies we have been given an insight into these last few years, that the lies may indeed be beyond our wildest dreams, everything is on the table for me now. As Sibrel himself says: if the moon landing domino falls, it will likely be the keystone to bring the whole edifice down in a mass awakening more than any other potential rupture of our collective reality.
Im fairly certain weve been to the moon but if you dont I wont hold it against you. There is definitely some fuckery afoot with the space program.
But flat earth? This is a hill I die on. Flat earth is a C_A psyop. There is 2500 years of proof. It has been proven in hundreds of ways through observation and by math. Math doesnt lie despite what leftists want you to believe.
Ironically, yes, I could absolutely believe a government agency was that incompetent. Even NASA. Especially NASA, if you know the actual reasons behind the Challenger and Columbia disasters
For those interested, take a look at “ Retired f 16 pilot confirms flat earth “ on rumble. A fascinating explanation of the apg 65 radar on this plane , and how it was designed to track/intercept enemy jets . Since the topic has been introduced, an opposing view surely will be given space free from ridicule and condescension Thx
218 & 182??
I wonder if there is a potential Q relevance.. I tried to find those posts in QAGG, but it seems to be down. Any ideas??
Someone's going to show that meme of what is claimed to be Neil Armstrong's spacesuit with flat-soled boots, followed by the ribbed footprint on the moon.
I just know it.
Ockham's Razor: Neil had more than one suit. Or that wasn't Neil's.
I hope not, frog.
Well, a few points. First off, Occam's razor doesn't state that among competing hypotheses, the "simplest one" is true, it states that the one with the fewest unsupported assumptions should be preferred. It emphasizes the importance of simplicity and parsimony when forming explanations or theories, and it is often used to guide scientific inquiry and decision-making.
Secondly, OH, MY GOD. Is that really what they think? They should look at Neil Armstrong's suit in the Smithsonian (Google it for yourself). You are CORRECT; THE BOOTS DO NOT HAVE THE RIBBED LINES UNDERNEATH, and, AND, you can find numerous photos of the woman prepping the suit for display. The boots, indeed, as you say, do not have the lines underneath, on the soles.
Psst. Know why?
Because the astronauts wore OVERSHOES (oversoles, or rubber fittings) on their shoes (basically like snowshoes, except, they were "moon dust" shoes). Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon. NASA engineers were worried that the lunar surface would be "powdery" and deep with dust, so, they made the astronauts wear ribbed sole overshoes to help the astronauts with traction on the moon's surface.
OMG, I had no idea the "muh fake moon landing" fuckwits had seized on this. Too funny. Thanks for leteting me know what they're "thinking".
Nice. Thanks for all this info, fren. Entire thread saved for future reference.
And yeah, saw that meme at least twice, both on the Conspiracies win and other sites.
Jeeze don't tell the Flat Earhers about Larry Niven's Ringworld books. Kek
Show must go on, eh?
Right, but the claim is about telemetry data tapes - NOT videotapes.
I couldn’t agree more. It is the burden of all students to thoroughly validate all claims (facts are merely one type of claim) before accepting them, regardless of source.