You are right in that the context of these verses have to do with the nation of Israel - which was in conventual relationship with God. These curses would, and did, come to Israel if they broke the conditional covenant they had with God. There are consequences as well as blessings that come with being in covenant with God.
Some say that the US also is in covenantal relationship with God from the moment the Pilgrims landed on our eastern shores. As far as I know, the US is the only other nation to be in such an arrangement. Therefore, if this in indeed true, then we should take some lessons from the fate that befell Israel for their disobedience.
The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as is proven by scripture, history and even Jewish writings. Christ said, My sheep hear my voice and follow me". Scripture defines sheep as Israel and only Israel. Who has been following Christ as a people for almost 2000 years?
The Almighty made an eternal, meaning forever, covenant with the people of Israel. If the covenant between the Creator with the sun and the moon can be broken, then Israel will cease being a people before Him. Mankind does not get to come along later and redefine what is meant by Israel. Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience when he made the statement you mention. He also stated that there were other sheep not of the fold he was speaking to at that moment, which were Jews. He said about the others, that he would bring them as well - meaning Gentiles.
Even Paul stated that Gentiles were grafted into Israel as part of the commonwealth. That tree of Israel was the Jewish people of that time as they understood it - not what someone centuries later decided it meant. Christianity did not make a separate redefined tree apart from the tree that already existed. They were meant to be grafted into it. Following Jesus was never a requirement definition of who constituted Israel. That is replacement theology. Israel must be understood within its Biblical context - not what someone else thinks it means.
The error comes with the word Jew. The word should not even be in the new testament. It is not found in the Greek text. Yes the covenant is with Israel and some of those who were there hearing Christ were of Israel. Some were not. Those who hated Christ and argued with him, those who He told they were of their father the devil and they admitted they were not of Israel are not a part of the covenant. There is a lot to this. The word Gentile should not be in the NT as well. The Greek says Nation. (Gentile meant non-Roman citizen at one time. You should see what a 1931 dictionary says it meant. The meaning has been changed.) Prophecy tells us all about the other sheep. Sheep is defined by scripture as only Israelites. The grafting is for the other fold of Israel, the divorced and put away and punished House of Israel, whom Christ came to return to the fold. Lots to this. If you want to continue, I'm happy to do it.
You're reading it out of context and missing the point. The point with the above verse is that that's what will happen if you disobey God.
You are right in that the context of these verses have to do with the nation of Israel - which was in conventual relationship with God. These curses would, and did, come to Israel if they broke the conditional covenant they had with God. There are consequences as well as blessings that come with being in covenant with God.
Some say that the US also is in covenantal relationship with God from the moment the Pilgrims landed on our eastern shores. As far as I know, the US is the only other nation to be in such an arrangement. Therefore, if this in indeed true, then we should take some lessons from the fate that befell Israel for their disobedience.
The modern day Jews are not, and have never been, God's Israel people as is proven by scripture, history and even Jewish writings. Christ said, My sheep hear my voice and follow me". Scripture defines sheep as Israel and only Israel. Who has been following Christ as a people for almost 2000 years?
The Almighty made an eternal, meaning forever, covenant with the people of Israel. If the covenant between the Creator with the sun and the moon can be broken, then Israel will cease being a people before Him. Mankind does not get to come along later and redefine what is meant by Israel. Jesus was speaking to a Jewish audience when he made the statement you mention. He also stated that there were other sheep not of the fold he was speaking to at that moment, which were Jews. He said about the others, that he would bring them as well - meaning Gentiles.
Even Paul stated that Gentiles were grafted into Israel as part of the commonwealth. That tree of Israel was the Jewish people of that time as they understood it - not what someone centuries later decided it meant. Christianity did not make a separate redefined tree apart from the tree that already existed. They were meant to be grafted into it. Following Jesus was never a requirement definition of who constituted Israel. That is replacement theology. Israel must be understood within its Biblical context - not what someone else thinks it means.
The error comes with the word Jew. The word should not even be in the new testament. It is not found in the Greek text. Yes the covenant is with Israel and some of those who were there hearing Christ were of Israel. Some were not. Those who hated Christ and argued with him, those who He told they were of their father the devil and they admitted they were not of Israel are not a part of the covenant. There is a lot to this. The word Gentile should not be in the NT as well. The Greek says Nation. (Gentile meant non-Roman citizen at one time. You should see what a 1931 dictionary says it meant. The meaning has been changed.) Prophecy tells us all about the other sheep. Sheep is defined by scripture as only Israelites. The grafting is for the other fold of Israel, the divorced and put away and punished House of Israel, whom Christ came to return to the fold. Lots to this. If you want to continue, I'm happy to do it.