Exactly. Who in the hell are these people squawking about us dressing fancy in public and church. Silly. And judgemental. God doesn't care if you wear a suit and tie. Ridiculousness
I said we will never get back to a lovely level of society if we don’t do that, and that seeing a group of young men pressing back against media and societal pressure to degrade further brought a tear of joy to my eye.
Maybe you don’t live in an area where wearing nothing but an undershirt and pants around knees with exposed boxers while listening to amped mumble rap and satanic screed is the norm, but some of us do.
What I, and he, did advocate is readoption of dressing nicely in one’s “sabbath best” for congregation, for each other, while reconfirming that the slippery slope is real.
Your resistance toward societal standards is noted.
Thank you, and good day.
It's unpractical to many who are living a humble and as a result a often dirty life. The most God serving people I know, are working hard in jeans and such and sometimes don't have time to clean up before service due to life happening. My most recent pastor, cattle farmer. Would sometimes have to get messy before even coming into the service on regardless of the day. He was working a full time factory job while running the farm to help the church folks and pay for the old barbershop building we were renting as home base to have services and go to the poorest areas of town immediately after every service, and give the gospel. (The barber shop was there already so easy walks). Guess how those people are dressed? Guess how it comes off with the 'long coats'? It's the ghettos man...We serve God, and it gets us dirty, I go to Church to serve and work for Him. Not to look good for the already saved folk. I ought to just wear overalls as it's more fitting, cause I'm there to work, serve and get dirty. Not play society.
Well said. We live in a country town and we wear Jean's and flannels to church. We are a born again christian church. Our pastor is a black dude with dreads and a nose ring. Nicest most knowledgeable human I know pretty much.
I'm read up, I used the term derogatory as He. Legalism, by the lawyers. Letter rather than spirit, locked in a ministration of death rather than life. Posture away with the world. I'm uninterested, so are all the useful for God people I know.
Legalism means one believes salvation comes from following the law, not that one rejects it.
Your open hostility and derision through this whole conversation has been wholly unnecessary, especially as you didn’t address any points. Slander to slander, demanding low standards rather than encouraging higher ones, just as the Bible teaches.
Encourage to stop the slide down the slippery slope of cultural degradation?
Everyone.
Don’t dress nicely so people will think highly of you. Dress nicely because we are called to be kings and priests, and should try to carry ourselves in a manner befitting that calling.
There are churches where the young women wear cutoff yoga pants to service, sexualizing both themselves and the men of the congregation, against the commandments of the scriptures because “we have been freed from the law.”
“Who are you to judge?”
For myself, I will judge righteously, as we are commanded to do, and point out that we are not called to carry ourselves that way. Please go put on a nice dress and come back.
What's wrong with casual? Who are we trying to impress with our clothing choices?
Weirdos fixated on outward appearances and having "long coats" so to speak, that's who. Pharisees.
Exactly. Who in the hell are these people squawking about us dressing fancy in public and church. Silly. And judgemental. God doesn't care if you wear a suit and tie. Ridiculousness
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I didn’t say He did, nor did the OP.
I said we will never get back to a lovely level of society if we don’t do that, and that seeing a group of young men pressing back against media and societal pressure to degrade further brought a tear of joy to my eye.
Maybe you don’t live in an area where wearing nothing but an undershirt and pants around knees with exposed boxers while listening to amped mumble rap and satanic screed is the norm, but some of us do.
What I, and he, did advocate is readoption of dressing nicely in one’s “sabbath best” for congregation, for each other, while reconfirming that the slippery slope is real.
Your resistance toward societal standards is noted. Thank you, and good day.
It's unpractical to many who are living a humble and as a result a often dirty life. The most God serving people I know, are working hard in jeans and such and sometimes don't have time to clean up before service due to life happening. My most recent pastor, cattle farmer. Would sometimes have to get messy before even coming into the service on regardless of the day. He was working a full time factory job while running the farm to help the church folks and pay for the old barbershop building we were renting as home base to have services and go to the poorest areas of town immediately after every service, and give the gospel. (The barber shop was there already so easy walks). Guess how those people are dressed? Guess how it comes off with the 'long coats'? It's the ghettos man...We serve God, and it gets us dirty, I go to Church to serve and work for Him. Not to look good for the already saved folk. I ought to just wear overalls as it's more fitting, cause I'm there to work, serve and get dirty. Not play society.
Well said. We live in a country town and we wear Jean's and flannels to church. We are a born again christian church. Our pastor is a black dude with dreads and a nose ring. Nicest most knowledgeable human I know pretty much.
Nice comment. Pharisees. Exactly. Maybe we should go back to fucking Victorian wigs and women tying up their dresses with cages inside lol
People love to throw that term around.
Jesus is considered by many to be relatively aligned with the pharisaic school. Go read up on it.
I'm read up, I used the term derogatory as He. Legalism, by the lawyers. Letter rather than spirit, locked in a ministration of death rather than life. Posture away with the world. I'm uninterested, so are all the useful for God people I know.
Legalism means one believes salvation comes from following the law, not that one rejects it.
Your open hostility and derision through this whole conversation has been wholly unnecessary, especially as you didn’t address any points. Slander to slander, demanding low standards rather than encouraging higher ones, just as the Bible teaches.
“Honk, honk.”
Impress?
Nobody.
Encourage to stop the slide down the slippery slope of cultural degradation?
Everyone.
Don’t dress nicely so people will think highly of you. Dress nicely because we are called to be kings and priests, and should try to carry ourselves in a manner befitting that calling.
There are churches where the young women wear cutoff yoga pants to service, sexualizing both themselves and the men of the congregation, against the commandments of the scriptures because “we have been freed from the law.”
“Who are you to judge?”
For myself, I will judge righteously, as we are commanded to do, and point out that we are not called to carry ourselves that way. Please go put on a nice dress and come back.
I agree with the sexualization at church. That shouldn't be. I dont need to dress fancy in public. That's ridiculous.