this is a discussion; it needs no link.

i could provide a link to the text of the supreme court decision, or links to the role of mens rea in the american legal system.

let me be clear:

I am an amateur law enthusiast....barely. I am not looking for answers from people with my own level of legal expertise. There are people on this board who actually know law. I am not one of them, and I suspect you aren't really either. unless its just the meds?

I respect the enthusiasm. I understand the urge to quash liberal arguments very well. not trying to be insulting. All of us here have different areas of expertise. But this is a moderately complex legal discussion, and if it sounds like word salad to you, then I don't think either of us are equipped to provide the answer. But someone here is.

EDIT: Genuinely, much love to the pede that replied with much vigor, and then removed their comments. I also wanted to tell this person they were a stupid liberal spewing nonsense, but what I wanted more was to provide an actual argument based in the law. I don't need to crowd-source rage against liberals....I have loads of that. Legal knowledge is where any response I could make would be lacking.