You're not paying attention. What did Trump say was used to set the tariff rate? ONLY their tariff rate on us? No. There was one other important item. Trump explained it if you were listening. There are other things that do much the same as tariffs, like manipulating the value of their currency and other regulations that limit what we can sell into their country. BOTH those factors were used to set our tariff rate for them.
He was pointing out the 17 there fren! No offense but some anons are just, so know it all, that the actual message flies right over their head. Why not 16% or 18%? Because it’s a message to the deep state! 17% 😉🤦get it? Got it? Good!
Or maybe because 17 is half of 33 which was the rate Israel was charging us for years. The fact that the stopped yesterday.. too little too late, they can eat it
There was also an article on how Israel's deep state is even more intrenched than ours, and that may well be why Israel is last:
hat tip to ashlanddog:
President Hakainde Hichelema (or "HH" as he is called) has allowed the Zambian economy, such as it is, to collapse. If Zambia exports anything, it is probably copper and manganese (and gems). Tariffs are unlikely to hinder that market. The rest of Zambia is not producing much for export because it is primarily not even producing much for domestic consumption. These are sad times for Zambia: poverty, corruption, drought, lack of electric power, widescale alcohol consumption, huge upsurge in pedophile and sexual abuse crimes, low age of mortality. Very elegant tourist venues, puffed-up bureaucrats in crisp suits and expensive automobiles, new airport. (I remember departing from my first visit there. Ticket in hand, I ask "Can you direct me to my gate?" "Oh, the concourse is that way." "But which gate is it?" "You will see. There is only the one gate..." And I'll be damned if they had only ONE gate, for departures and arrivals. I hadn't noticed that when I had arrived. I was flabbergasted. And you had to walk across the tarmac to the plane.)
Thank you for sharing your fascinating experience, fren. Like many African sad stories - over a century of colonialism, exploitation, infightings and corruption. Wealth of minerals and land mass but they cannot get it together.
Zambia was much better off several years ago, when HH took power, but it was not because his predecessor was any good. What seems to be missing are the "Muzungu" traits of discipline and persistence. It is not that there are no Africans with that trait, or that it is hard to inculcate. But the nation, being so poor, is also poorly-educated, and even though English is mandated for all to learn and know, it is also at the level of a second language for those who prefer to speak their tribal "vernacular" to one another. The poor education leads to poor political decision making at the ballot-box, and at the party formation level. The growing discontent with the dilapidation of what was once an admirable level of civilization may make the public more interested in policies over personalities. There is also the structural problem that the government is entirely centralized: Lusaka determines everything that happens, down to the smallest village. With the result that somewhere in that spetrum, the attention span and budget gives out. Zambia may be ripe for a constitutional reform that would give them a republican federal structure, with significant administrative and legal responsibilities remanded to the provinces. It may be possible to get the tribal chieftains behind this. They actually hold final authority over the land and its uses. They have a house in the Parliament...but they are conspicuously ignored, even diminished. I suspect this does NOT sit well with the Lozi, who were promised their region (by tradition, "Barotseland") would be autonomous at the country's independence. The British left Zambia with a very good legacy in civic infrastructure, schools, hospitals, railroads, etc. But the successive governments were more interested in self-enrichment and personal power than with attentive and careful stewardship. This is the grand problem of the third world: the childish magical belief that things will not run down, or when they do, it will not happen on their watch---so they omit maintenance from their daily habits. Not everyone. Those who have automobiles are forced to deal with regular service, or their vehicles will not move. However, those who are in charge of the roads tolerate pot-holes that are the size of craters (I've seen the photos; they would swallow a Smart Car).
I have come to the conclusion that this focus among the European peoples resulted from the necessities of coping with harsh winters. "Winter" in Africa is largely a joke, and they flinch over a change of 5 degrees. Nothing like the bitter winters in Europe where the Thames and the Rhine had frozen over, and ice skates were invented. That and the need for permanence in the structures built all militated toward blacksmithing and stonecutting, and intensive farming with crop rotation. (There is a further argument to be made about long-distance sailing being another contributor to habits. Central Africa has no such tradition.) I would say the farmers of Zambia are the closest in habits to the muzungu colonists, in that they understand the need for long-range planning and the necessity of continuous attention.
The people of Zambia are not bad. They are poorly taught and badly led. It is such an example of the Biblical truism: Where there is no vision, the people perish.
I don't usually try to point out coincidences, but Jesus was 33 when he started his ministry. Could that tariff rate have been a slap-in-the-face because we are mostly a Christian nation?
Could this be the go ahead for saving Israel for last? Maybe but i believe it already began last year when a bunch of former Isrealic ministers ended up on the wrong side of car accidents.
This is fully a comm. Israel wants the US to rescind its 17% tariff. Come on guys. This is cloak and dagger fuckery it's probably them saying please take the Q plan off the table for us.
New cars, commercially imported to Israel are subject to VAT (17% of their value), and purchase tax (up to 83% of their value). 1 Additional purchase tax of 20% is imposed on the part of the price exceeding NIS 300,000 (about EUR 75,000) of Luxury cars.
You're not paying attention. What did Trump say was used to set the tariff rate? ONLY their tariff rate on us? No. There was one other important item. Trump explained it if you were listening. There are other things that do much the same as tariffs, like manipulating the value of their currency and other regulations that limit what we can sell into their country. BOTH those factors were used to set our tariff rate for them.
Fren, I never said that was the only thing he used to set tariff rates? Where did you get that from?
Do you not believe it’s possible that the tariff percentage is also a message?
Israel for last [916].
good point:
Their deep state is even more deeply entrenched than ours: hat tip to ashlanddog! https://greatawakening.win/p/19AwtGscNO/the-tablet--israels-deep-state-i/c/
He was pointing out the 17 there fren! No offense but some anons are just, so know it all, that the actual message flies right over their head. Why not 16% or 18%? Because it’s a message to the deep state! 17% 😉🤦get it? Got it? Good!
Or maybe because 17 is half of 33 which was the rate Israel was charging us for years. The fact that the stopped yesterday.. too little too late, they can eat it
Israel's rate for us was 33%? Haha! That was its own message. I did not ever notice that, previously.
17 is half of 34
There was also an article on how Israel's deep state is even more intrenched than ours, and that may well be why Israel is last: hat tip to ashlanddog:
https://greatawakening.win/p/19AwtGscNO/the-tablet--israels-deep-state-i/c/
Yeah. But the Philippines and Zambia have 17% slapped on them as well. 🫤
President Hakainde Hichelema (or "HH" as he is called) has allowed the Zambian economy, such as it is, to collapse. If Zambia exports anything, it is probably copper and manganese (and gems). Tariffs are unlikely to hinder that market. The rest of Zambia is not producing much for export because it is primarily not even producing much for domestic consumption. These are sad times for Zambia: poverty, corruption, drought, lack of electric power, widescale alcohol consumption, huge upsurge in pedophile and sexual abuse crimes, low age of mortality. Very elegant tourist venues, puffed-up bureaucrats in crisp suits and expensive automobiles, new airport. (I remember departing from my first visit there. Ticket in hand, I ask "Can you direct me to my gate?" "Oh, the concourse is that way." "But which gate is it?" "You will see. There is only the one gate..." And I'll be damned if they had only ONE gate, for departures and arrivals. I hadn't noticed that when I had arrived. I was flabbergasted. And you had to walk across the tarmac to the plane.)
Thank you for sharing your fascinating experience, fren. Like many African sad stories - over a century of colonialism, exploitation, infightings and corruption. Wealth of minerals and land mass but they cannot get it together.
Thanks for the appreciation.
Zambia was much better off several years ago, when HH took power, but it was not because his predecessor was any good. What seems to be missing are the "Muzungu" traits of discipline and persistence. It is not that there are no Africans with that trait, or that it is hard to inculcate. But the nation, being so poor, is also poorly-educated, and even though English is mandated for all to learn and know, it is also at the level of a second language for those who prefer to speak their tribal "vernacular" to one another. The poor education leads to poor political decision making at the ballot-box, and at the party formation level. The growing discontent with the dilapidation of what was once an admirable level of civilization may make the public more interested in policies over personalities. There is also the structural problem that the government is entirely centralized: Lusaka determines everything that happens, down to the smallest village. With the result that somewhere in that spetrum, the attention span and budget gives out. Zambia may be ripe for a constitutional reform that would give them a republican federal structure, with significant administrative and legal responsibilities remanded to the provinces. It may be possible to get the tribal chieftains behind this. They actually hold final authority over the land and its uses. They have a house in the Parliament...but they are conspicuously ignored, even diminished. I suspect this does NOT sit well with the Lozi, who were promised their region (by tradition, "Barotseland") would be autonomous at the country's independence. The British left Zambia with a very good legacy in civic infrastructure, schools, hospitals, railroads, etc. But the successive governments were more interested in self-enrichment and personal power than with attentive and careful stewardship. This is the grand problem of the third world: the childish magical belief that things will not run down, or when they do, it will not happen on their watch---so they omit maintenance from their daily habits. Not everyone. Those who have automobiles are forced to deal with regular service, or their vehicles will not move. However, those who are in charge of the roads tolerate pot-holes that are the size of craters (I've seen the photos; they would swallow a Smart Car).
I have come to the conclusion that this focus among the European peoples resulted from the necessities of coping with harsh winters. "Winter" in Africa is largely a joke, and they flinch over a change of 5 degrees. Nothing like the bitter winters in Europe where the Thames and the Rhine had frozen over, and ice skates were invented. That and the need for permanence in the structures built all militated toward blacksmithing and stonecutting, and intensive farming with crop rotation. (There is a further argument to be made about long-distance sailing being another contributor to habits. Central Africa has no such tradition.) I would say the farmers of Zambia are the closest in habits to the muzungu colonists, in that they understand the need for long-range planning and the necessity of continuous attention.
The people of Zambia are not bad. They are poorly taught and badly led. It is such an example of the Biblical truism: Where there is no vision, the people perish.
I noticed that they were charging us thirty three percent. 🤔
I don't usually try to point out coincidences, but Jesus was 33 when he started his ministry. Could that tariff rate have been a slap-in-the-face because we are mostly a Christian nation?
There's not a whole lot that surprises me anymore.
Good addition. I would upvote but the 17 is just too beautiful to disturb.
Making up for them fucking us with tariffs in the past.
If you will look at the chart, they were hitting us with 33% tariff rates before - so PatriotDawg has the answer here!
https://greatawakening.win/p/19AwxwPBw5/complete-list-of-all-reciprocol-/c/
(BTW, the same applies to the Phillippines - they also are getting a 17% tariff rate - from 34% that they charge on our goods)
That's how it should be, all over the world... unilateral tarrifs only.
Didn't know Evspra was still around. I don't go to PDW much
You noticed that, too. My thoughts exactly.
I'm surprised they even posted this. I abandoned PDW shortly before the conversion to .win
What if Evspra is now u/Centepede9001 ??? 🤷♂️🤔
If so; glad they never really left!
Could be true... we may never know!
17 has been used as code for a very long time.
Could this be the go ahead for saving Israel for last? Maybe but i believe it already began last year when a bunch of former Isrealic ministers ended up on the wrong side of car accidents.
Link to an article about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emtag_gkIiM
This is fully a comm. Israel wants the US to rescind its 17% tariff. Come on guys. This is cloak and dagger fuckery it's probably them saying please take the Q plan off the table for us.
Maybe it is a start to getting our annual $ 3 billion back
I hope he's saying, "No soup for you!"
Why? Need more info. Was the currency manipulation that bad?
It's funny. A Q-tariff.
The Us subsidizes Israel to the hilt and then a 17% tariff rolls off the bandwagon?
Here is a trillions dollars. Go produce. But if you want to do business in the us, you pay 17% back. ....
A 117% would be more appropriate ...
New cars, commercially imported to Israel are subject to VAT (17% of their value), and purchase tax (up to 83% of their value). 1 Additional purchase tax of 20% is imposed on the part of the price exceeding NIS 300,000 (about EUR 75,000) of Luxury cars.
Khazarian zionists were just given a message that they and their evil tactics of money manipulating are no longer in control.
How dare he do that against our greatest ally! Oy vey!
this is a msg to us an0ns. He keeps his friends close but his enemies closest.