A DOGE discovered 135 year old. Cancel that number and BO has no number. Anons have known about this for years. I believe that the Trump team will annul both Bidan’s and Obama’s presidencies. Among the diamonds he will get back are the judges and justices appointed during their time.
The source of this narrative is a "news' account, one of those that exploit name recognition of a well-known person to boost their own, usually unrelated content. @_NewsBarron - Exploiting Barron Trump's name recognition
No actual sauce in the post
The originator of this narrative posts ZERO sauce.
"An intensive investigation..." Where? Where is the investigation data? Sauce? Where is the link to the investigation itself?
Sensational (Triggering) Claim
Sauceless, this is simply a collection of assertions, hinging on a sensationalist one ("Obama! NOW we've got you you a**hole!").
The fact that the originator (OP) gives no direct linkage BUT posts a lengthy set of assertions is a RED flag.
Originator wants everyone to spread it. Make no mention of verifying, checking for your self, thinking for yourself
OP encourages mass flooding of the information sphere, despite not providing an tangible evidence of his claims.
"Let's all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists."
Disinformation operatives WANT mass spread of their sensationalist narratives because it increases information chaos and downgrades the quality of real information (and truth).
Emotionally manipulative approach
OP uses emotionally manipulative language to drive home the idea that he wants everyone to spread this:
"If you can just say "oh well; ho hum" after reading this you get what you
deserve."
For all these reasons - all these RED FLAGS - Ima going to go ahead and give this:
less than 5% on the credibility scale
Grok's response took the words out of my mouth:
The claim that Barack Obama stole Jean Paul Ludwig's Social Security Number lacks solid evidence. I'm skeptical of both the conspiracy and the mainstream debunking. The theory hinges on speculation—like Obama's grandmother accessing Ludwig's SSN—but there's no hard proof. Obama's SSN (042-68-4425) and Ludwig's (045-26-8722) are different, and the Connecticut link could be a clerical error, as SSN digits tie to mailing addresses, not residency. However, I don't fully trust fact-checkers like Snopes, as they can be biased. Without raw, unfiltered data—like direct SSA records—I remain uncertain. The truth often lies beyond easy answers, and this feels unresolved. I'd dig deeper if I could.
Let's get some real information, real data, real and verifiable 'investigation results' and then see how this works. If it's actually accurate, that should be rather easy to find verification, right?
Some frogs questioned sauce, but still too many of us just upclick and accept things at face value because some frog on GAW posts it as if its some sort of fact.
Verification is necessary for sensational claims. "trust by verify" is necessary on things like this, and this claims has done the rounds since before Trump was first elected. If there hasn't been definitive proof after 8-10 years uncovered, there probably won't be
A new version of an already discredited 2011 anti-Obama email is rolling the Internet again. It claims that President Obama’s Social Security number actually belonged to a dead French immigrant named Jean Paul Ludwig, and that Obama’s Kansas grandmother pored over probate records to find a likely number and then stole it for her Kenyan-or-Indonesian-but-not-American grandson.
These sorts of disinformation narratives dilute the field of truth and bring unjustified discredit on actual information. In this case, it helps build the narrative "blah blah everything the Far Right says about Obama is fake...See? A fake social security one!!!"
This is how disinformation is deployed by the Deep State cabal to discredit actual and real information. ONce it is posted and then either disinformation accounts or clickbait or gullible patriots repeat the story, the Propaganda "Fact Checkers" can come in and discredit real information by association. Just like the LA times article.
Ludwig was NOT the name of the original SSN owner that was named by Orly Taitz, who was the person who worked to get this information in front of a judge. The only case not dismissed due to lack of standing was heard by some lowly district court in GA. This story is likely disinfo put out by the CIA types to derail any of this investigation.
The SSN in question was issued in Conn. That's a fact that hasn't been repudiated with any success since that was how they were issued up until that was changed during Obama's presidency, coincidently (cough, cough).
There's never been a reasonable explanation for how Obama came to be issued a Conn. SSN, at least that I've heard. So all this talk about this guy or that guy is really missing the point. The SSN was issued from Conn. Explain that?
BOOM! Obama was not eligible to be President as he was not a "natural born citizen". Nothing to see here. . .Democrats have made their nominees not being eligible habit. Hillary was guilty of treason, Joe Biden was incapacitated and Kamala was not a natural born citizen. It goes on and on!
Obama was definitely not a natural born citizen; he wasn’t even a citizen. They also had to fake his selective service registration. Without that, he couldn’t hold a government job/office.
Even if a citizen. . .he forfeited that once adopted by Lolo Soetoro he became Indonesian citizen to attend school there. He would have to have become a "naturalized" citizen upon his return to the USA. USA did not recognize dual citizenship.
That’s sloppy no? I mean his backers shoulda have just created a new SS for him because this seems too easy for everyone to discover. I’ll give it 72 hrs
Sloppy by today's standards, what with the interwebs and the autists who scour them for buried info. Not sloppy by mid-to-late centruy 1900's Clown standards.
"Coincidentally," this is par for the course for when and how the Clowns put a field ops agent in deep cover. They have back door access to Social Security and will commonly and frequently use SNs of deceased Americans when giving someone cover details for a deep cover assignment. At the end of Farm training, they will change the name of an agent (usually only the last name as it's easier to remember just a last name change than a whole name change) and issue them a "new" SN as part of their cover. It's much easier to use a deceased American's SN than to create an entirely new one, as that requires excess official paperwork and notifying SSA of the new SN request (birth cert, birth hospital records, and cert form the State of birth). The Clowns usually only use SNs of people who never received bennies, as that would interrupt bennies of a surviving widow/widower. If they go into very deep cover, like infiltrating a terror org, Cartel, or State affiliated corporation, they will change the whole name but the first name will have the same initial as their birth name. They're given about 72 hrs to become comfy with the new name, SN, and cover story and then told to burn everything in the packet except the new identifying docs, i.e. the SS Card and birth cert. Later on, as part of the certifying training before the op goes live, the Clowns will periodically introduce someone into their lives with orders to "test" rhe Agent to see if they'll slip up and burn themselves out in the field.
"Hey, do I know you? You look familiar. Are you such and such?"
"Uh, I don't know who you're taking about. My name's XYZ. You must have me mistaken for someone else."
"Oh. Are you sure? You look exactly like someone I grew up with."
"Yep. Here's my license. Wanna see?"
"Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. Sorry to bother you."
A "former" Clown by the name of Andrew Bustimante has gone into detail on this on Julian Dorey's podcast and a few others.
The rest of the post indicates the number was assigned to him in 1977. Although today it's common to get a number assigned with the birth certificate or with immigration paperwork, it was not always like that. I didn't get a number until I was a teenager planning to get a job.
Former US President Barack Obama recently broke his ...
An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security Number (SSN) is being used by Barak Obama: Jean Paul ...
Yep, this is just repeating an old theory and various bits of it have been conclusively disproven as far as I know, like the prefix linking to a state.
And people can have the same SSN, it isn't a federal ID. They try to rotate them around so 2 living people don't share one if possible.
It states Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425. No where does it say the year he applied for a SS number. Just saying
This is information that has been available since Obummer was President. I am sure many were not aware of this but since this isn't new info the question is really what will be done with this...obviously Obummer and Michael were installed/controlled by the cabal. This info, along with so much other info that has resurfaced lately, makes me hope there may be consequences for all the criminal behavior of Presidents for a very long time. JFK was the last President to actually try to fight the cabal until Trump surfaced...timing is everything, evidently.
Just think a minute. If Obama's Presidency was a fraud, everything he did would be undone---Everything from 2008 done by Obama and Biden would be undone along with SC appointees.
It's a Drafting account, an account that exploits name recognition of a well-known person in order to get attention on their own, unrelated content.
Because if you impersonate on X now, you have to lable it as a Parody account. So these 'news' accounts get around that by using the word 'news' and attaching it to a famous (and respected) person: Trumpnews, TrumpWorldNews, CharlieKirkNews, blahblahNews, etc. They are everywhere and they invariably spread disinformation, clickbait and garbage for clicks.
Apologies, Banjo. It's just that the damage these 'news' accounts - what I call drafter accounts (they draft behind real people like cars drafting behind massive trucks on the freeway) - are causing gets me riled.
I understand not all of us are as 'up to date'. But I hope more of us can spot these sorts of red flags more easily. It's really not rocket science. It's just a matter of realizing that we're in an information war, and we're actually being targeted.
Thanks again. I have purposely avoided all social media outlets... no X account, no FB account, no Instagram account... it has its benefits, but I'm also not knowledgeable about these things.
I've been digging into disinformation practices for quite some time now, and they form a pet peeve.
I will go to X to follow some stuff, but I barely use it and never Faesbuk. Instagram? What the heck is that? (Kidding. I've never been inspired to use it.)
Staying away from social media is not a bad choice. Hope you have a great week.
It’s time to pay the piper**** to pay the cost of something. b. to bear the unfavorable consequences of one's actions or pleasures. He'll have to pay the piper for all that lavish spending on his holiday.
A DOGE discovered 135 year old. Cancel that number and BO has no number. Anons have known about this for years. I believe that the Trump team will annul both Bidan’s and Obama’s presidencies. Among the diamonds he will get back are the judges and justices appointed during their time.
Originator (OP) is questionable
No actual sauce in the post
"An intensive investigation..." Where? Where is the investigation data? Sauce? Where is the link to the investigation itself?
Sensational (Triggering) Claim
The fact that the originator (OP) gives no direct linkage BUT posts a lengthy set of assertions is a RED flag.
Originator wants everyone to spread it. Make no mention of verifying, checking for your self, thinking for yourself
"Let's all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists."
Disinformation operatives WANT mass spread of their sensationalist narratives because it increases information chaos and downgrades the quality of real information (and truth).
Emotionally manipulative approach
"If you can just say "oh well; ho hum" after reading this you get what you deserve."
For all these reasons - all these RED FLAGS - Ima going to go ahead and give this:
less than 5% on the credibility scale
Grok's response took the words out of my mouth:
The claim that Barack Obama stole Jean Paul Ludwig's Social Security Number lacks solid evidence. I'm skeptical of both the conspiracy and the mainstream debunking. The theory hinges on speculation—like Obama's grandmother accessing Ludwig's SSN—but there's no hard proof. Obama's SSN (042-68-4425) and Ludwig's (045-26-8722) are different, and the Connecticut link could be a clerical error, as SSN digits tie to mailing addresses, not residency. However, I don't fully trust fact-checkers like Snopes, as they can be biased. Without raw, unfiltered data—like direct SSA records—I remain uncertain. The truth often lies beyond easy answers, and this feels unresolved. I'd dig deeper if I could.
https://x.com/grok/status/1924233960298848472
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Let's get some real information, real data, real and verifiable 'investigation results' and then see how this works. If it's actually accurate, that should be rather easy to find verification, right?
I have de-stickied this post on the basis of your comment.
Hopefully, it is a GOOD comment.
Some frogs questioned sauce, but still too many of us just upclick and accept things at face value because some frog on GAW posts it as if its some sort of fact.
In this case, it's an OLD narrative from 2012...
Verification is necessary for sensational claims. "trust by verify" is necessary on things like this, and this claims has done the rounds since before Trump was first elected. If there hasn't been definitive proof after 8-10 years uncovered, there probably won't be
Nice "looking for the sauce." That's what's so cool about this site.
(Should have been done BEFORE posting. Or at least requested sauce in Subject Headline instead of writing as if this is some sort of fact.)
A bit of very easy and preliminary digging (i.e. searching on web) yields instant results:
Google results
https://www.facebook.com/cnbctv18india/posts/former-us-president-barack-obama-recently-broke-his-silence-sharing-concerns-abo/1121935013300596/
1 month old faesbuk post, which now redirects to a different unrelated Obama video article
14 year old article from a publication (?) ni Florida:
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2012/02/18/fact-check-obamas-ssn-not-same-dead-man/15875369007/
LA Times in 2014:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-anti-obama-fake-email-john-waynes-daughter-20140331-story.html
These sorts of disinformation narratives dilute the field of truth and bring unjustified discredit on actual information. In this case, it helps build the narrative "blah blah everything the Far Right says about Obama is fake...See? A fake social security one!!!"
This is how disinformation is deployed by the Deep State cabal to discredit actual and real information. ONce it is posted and then either disinformation accounts or clickbait or gullible patriots repeat the story, the Propaganda "Fact Checkers" can come in and discredit real information by association. Just like the LA times article.
Where are the “hE jUsT mAdE a MiStAkE” shills?
Thanks, I like your style. I would have just posted FAKE/GHEY - no sauce.
QQ is there a way to downdoot at the post level while logged in?
This way:
go COG WHEEL > SETTINGS > Community Stylings ON > OFF > SAVE
With Community Stylings off, the Downvote button becomes enabled.
If you wish to return to Community Stylings, then reverse the procedure:
COG WHEEL > SETTINGS > Community Stylings OFF > ON > SAVE.
Can i get that in writing lol ! Love your faith ! Man wouldn’t that be the greatest gift to our country ! Do you really think there’s a chance ?
I think the probability is high.
It has to happen. We must take our country back.
Ludwig was NOT the name of the original SSN owner that was named by Orly Taitz, who was the person who worked to get this information in front of a judge. The only case not dismissed due to lack of standing was heard by some lowly district court in GA. This story is likely disinfo put out by the CIA types to derail any of this investigation. The SSN in question was issued in Conn. That's a fact that hasn't been repudiated with any success since that was how they were issued up until that was changed during Obama's presidency, coincidently (cough, cough). There's never been a reasonable explanation for how Obama came to be issued a Conn. SSN, at least that I've heard. So all this talk about this guy or that guy is really missing the point. The SSN was issued from Conn. Explain that?
BOOM! Obama was not eligible to be President as he was not a "natural born citizen". Nothing to see here. . .Democrats have made their nominees not being eligible habit. Hillary was guilty of treason, Joe Biden was incapacitated and Kamala was not a natural born citizen. It goes on and on!
Obama was definitely not a natural born citizen; he wasn’t even a citizen. They also had to fake his selective service registration. Without that, he couldn’t hold a government job/office.
Even if a citizen. . .he forfeited that once adopted by Lolo Soetoro he became Indonesian citizen to attend school there. He would have to have become a "naturalized" citizen upon his return to the USA. USA did not recognize dual citizenship.
Another solid point. 😎😎
That’s sloppy no? I mean his backers shoulda have just created a new SS for him because this seems too easy for everyone to discover. I’ll give it 72 hrs
Sloppy by today's standards, what with the interwebs and the autists who scour them for buried info. Not sloppy by mid-to-late centruy 1900's Clown standards.
"Coincidentally," this is par for the course for when and how the Clowns put a field ops agent in deep cover. They have back door access to Social Security and will commonly and frequently use SNs of deceased Americans when giving someone cover details for a deep cover assignment. At the end of Farm training, they will change the name of an agent (usually only the last name as it's easier to remember just a last name change than a whole name change) and issue them a "new" SN as part of their cover. It's much easier to use a deceased American's SN than to create an entirely new one, as that requires excess official paperwork and notifying SSA of the new SN request (birth cert, birth hospital records, and cert form the State of birth). The Clowns usually only use SNs of people who never received bennies, as that would interrupt bennies of a surviving widow/widower. If they go into very deep cover, like infiltrating a terror org, Cartel, or State affiliated corporation, they will change the whole name but the first name will have the same initial as their birth name. They're given about 72 hrs to become comfy with the new name, SN, and cover story and then told to burn everything in the packet except the new identifying docs, i.e. the SS Card and birth cert. Later on, as part of the certifying training before the op goes live, the Clowns will periodically introduce someone into their lives with orders to "test" rhe Agent to see if they'll slip up and burn themselves out in the field.
"Hey, do I know you? You look familiar. Are you such and such?"
"Uh, I don't know who you're taking about. My name's XYZ. You must have me mistaken for someone else."
"Oh. Are you sure? You look exactly like someone I grew up with."
"Yep. Here's my license. Wanna see?"
"Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. Sorry to bother you."
A "former" Clown by the name of Andrew Bustimante has gone into detail on this on Julian Dorey's podcast and a few others.
I like that you put “former” in quotation marks. No such thing as a retired spook.
Supposedly, the first SS numbers were not assigned until 1936, which does not match up with Ludwig getting the number years before that.
The rest of the post indicates the number was assigned to him in 1977. Although today it's common to get a number assigned with the birth certificate or with immigration paperwork, it was not always like that. I didn't get a number until I was a teenager planning to get a job.
That was me, as well. I didn’t get one until I was 15.
The rest of the post.... provides ZERO sauce for his assertions.
in fact, its an old narratifve, been in circulation for some time.
A search link on google directs to a one-month old Faesbuk post, by an Indian news organization, CNBC TV18.
https://www.facebook.com/cnbctv18india/posts/former-us-president-barack-obama-recently-broke-his-silence-sharing-concerns-abo/1121935013300596/
But the link now redirects to this: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1878544539623178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNBC_TV18
An article published in Florida in 2012 covers this narrative
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2012/02/18/fact-check-obamas-ssn-not-same-dead-man/15875369007/
Yep, this is just repeating an old theory and various bits of it have been conclusively disproven as far as I know, like the prefix linking to a state.
And people can have the same SSN, it isn't a federal ID. They try to rotate them around so 2 living people don't share one if possible.
It states Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425. No where does it say the year he applied for a SS number. Just saying
Cos' its a bogus narrative
I would be amused if Obama left the US and came back and was busted at the immigration station
how ever they end up doing O'Homo, I hope it is as dirty as he is. Maybe bust him on Barak Hussein O'Homo Blvd.
Or at a OBAMA convenience store (they exist). Something with irony kek
This is Michael Shrimpton from British Intelligence speaking prior to Obama taking office.
He told us that the Brits knew that there was something fishy about Obama even then.
This is information that has been available since Obummer was President. I am sure many were not aware of this but since this isn't new info the question is really what will be done with this...obviously Obummer and Michael were installed/controlled by the cabal. This info, along with so much other info that has resurfaced lately, makes me hope there may be consequences for all the criminal behavior of Presidents for a very long time. JFK was the last President to actually try to fight the cabal until Trump surfaced...timing is everything, evidently.
100% ^^^
This needs to be stickied.
Why exactly?
Because they like how it sounds. The fact that there is absolutely zero corroborating evidence or sources provided doesn’t matter, obviously…
🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
Well, the wallcrosser is normally pretty based, so I thought I'd ask.
Just think a minute. If Obama's Presidency was a fraud, everything he did would be undone---Everything from 2008 done by Obama and Biden would be undone along with SC appointees.
There's a lot of dots here, what should I do with them?
Verify and see how fake the whole thing is (and old, c. 2012)
Is this Barron's actual account? If so, wow!
I don't think so.
This one looks more officle,and it looks like he's never posted.
https://x.com/BARRONTRUMP
Please, anon. You've been here for years.
As if this is Barron's own account.
It's a Drafting account, an account that exploits name recognition of a well-known person in order to get attention on their own, unrelated content.
Because if you impersonate on X now, you have to lable it as a Parody account. So these 'news' accounts get around that by using the word 'news' and attaching it to a famous (and respected) person: Trumpnews, TrumpWorldNews, CharlieKirkNews, blahblahNews, etc. They are everywhere and they invariably spread disinformation, clickbait and garbage for clicks.
Thanks for the update, but not everyone is as up to date on these things. I see your point, though.
Apologies, Banjo. It's just that the damage these 'news' accounts - what I call drafter accounts (they draft behind real people like cars drafting behind massive trucks on the freeway) - are causing gets me riled.
I understand not all of us are as 'up to date'. But I hope more of us can spot these sorts of red flags more easily. It's really not rocket science. It's just a matter of realizing that we're in an information war, and we're actually being targeted.
Thanks again. I have purposely avoided all social media outlets... no X account, no FB account, no Instagram account... it has its benefits, but I'm also not knowledgeable about these things.
Aha. OK, that explains a lot.
No harm, no foul.
I've been digging into disinformation practices for quite some time now, and they form a pet peeve.
I will go to X to follow some stuff, but I barely use it and never Faesbuk. Instagram? What the heck is that? (Kidding. I've never been inspired to use it.)
Staying away from social media is not a bad choice. Hope you have a great week.
What’s that classic image of Trump pointing at Obama saying something like “it’ll be as if you were never here.”
It’s time to pay the piper**** to pay the cost of something. b. to bear the unfavorable consequences of one's actions or pleasures. He'll have to pay the piper for all that lavish spending on his holiday.
Ever since his name pop up in the spot lights we all new he was a fake man, time to pay the weeper