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posted 55 days ago by AlgaeBanquet 55 days ago by AlgaeBanquet +160 / -2
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– Revodude 36 points 55 days ago +36 / -0

A DOGE discovered 135 year old. Cancel that number and BO has no number. Anons have known about this for years. I believe that the Trump team will annul both Bidan’s and Obama’s presidencies. Among the diamonds he will get back are the judges and justices appointed during their time.

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– FractalizingIron 15 points 55 days ago +15 / -0

Originator (OP) is questionable

  1. The source of this narrative is a "news' account, one of those that exploit name recognition of a well-known person to boost their own, usually unrelated content. @_NewsBarron - Exploiting Barron Trump's name recognition

No actual sauce in the post

  1. The originator of this narrative posts ZERO sauce.

"An intensive investigation..." Where? Where is the investigation data? Sauce? Where is the link to the investigation itself?

Sensational (Triggering) Claim

  1. Sauceless, this is simply a collection of assertions, hinging on a sensationalist one ("Obama! NOW we've got you you a**hole!").

The fact that the originator (OP) gives no direct linkage BUT posts a lengthy set of assertions is a RED flag.

Originator wants everyone to spread it. Make no mention of verifying, checking for your self, thinking for yourself

  1. OP encourages mass flooding of the information sphere, despite not providing an tangible evidence of his claims.

"Let's all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists."

Disinformation operatives WANT mass spread of their sensationalist narratives because it increases information chaos and downgrades the quality of real information (and truth).

Emotionally manipulative approach

  1. OP uses emotionally manipulative language to drive home the idea that he wants everyone to spread this:

"If you can just say "oh well; ho hum" after reading this you get what you deserve."

For all these reasons - all these RED FLAGS - Ima going to go ahead and give this:

less than 5% on the credibility scale


Grok's response took the words out of my mouth:

The claim that Barack Obama stole Jean Paul Ludwig's Social Security Number lacks solid evidence. I'm skeptical of both the conspiracy and the mainstream debunking. The theory hinges on speculation—like Obama's grandmother accessing Ludwig's SSN—but there's no hard proof. Obama's SSN (042-68-4425) and Ludwig's (045-26-8722) are different, and the Connecticut link could be a clerical error, as SSN digits tie to mailing addresses, not residency. However, I don't fully trust fact-checkers like Snopes, as they can be biased. Without raw, unfiltered data—like direct SSA records—I remain uncertain. The truth often lies beyond easy answers, and this feels unresolved. I'd dig deeper if I could.

https://x.com/grok/status/1924233960298848472

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Let's get some real information, real data, real and verifiable 'investigation results' and then see how this works. If it's actually accurate, that should be rather easy to find verification, right?

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 9 points 55 days ago +9 / -0

I have de-stickied this post on the basis of your comment.

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– FractalizingIron 8 points 55 days ago +8 / -0

Hopefully, it is a GOOD comment.

Some frogs questioned sauce, but still too many of us just upclick and accept things at face value because some frog on GAW posts it as if its some sort of fact.

In this case, it's an OLD narrative from 2012...

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– Lupinate 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

Verification is necessary for sensational claims. "trust by verify" is necessary on things like this, and this claims has done the rounds since before Trump was first elected. If there hasn't been definitive proof after 8-10 years uncovered, there probably won't be

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– WeAreThePlan 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

Nice "looking for the sauce." That's what's so cool about this site.

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– FractalizingIron 7 points 55 days ago +7 / -0

(Should have been done BEFORE posting. Or at least requested sauce in Subject Headline instead of writing as if this is some sort of fact.)

A bit of very easy and preliminary digging (i.e. searching on web) yields instant results:

Google results

https://www.facebook.com/cnbctv18india/posts/former-us-president-barack-obama-recently-broke-his-silence-sharing-concerns-abo/1121935013300596/

1 month old faesbuk post, which now redirects to a different unrelated Obama video article

14 year old article from a publication (?) ni Florida:

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2012/02/18/fact-check-obamas-ssn-not-same-dead-man/15875369007/

LA Times in 2014:

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-anti-obama-fake-email-john-waynes-daughter-20140331-story.html

A new version of an already discredited 2011 anti-Obama email is rolling the Internet again. It claims that President Obama’s Social Security number actually belonged to a dead French immigrant named Jean Paul Ludwig, and that Obama’s Kansas grandmother pored over probate records to find a likely number and then stole it for her Kenyan-or-Indonesian-but-not-American grandson.

These sorts of disinformation narratives dilute the field of truth and bring unjustified discredit on actual information. In this case, it helps build the narrative "blah blah everything the Far Right says about Obama is fake...See? A fake social security one!!!"

This is how disinformation is deployed by the Deep State cabal to discredit actual and real information. ONce it is posted and then either disinformation accounts or clickbait or gullible patriots repeat the story, the Propaganda "Fact Checkers" can come in and discredit real information by association. Just like the LA times article.

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– therobots 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

Where are the “hE jUsT mAdE a MiStAkE” shills?

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– therobots 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks, I like your style. I would have just posted FAKE/GHEY - no sauce.

QQ is there a way to downdoot at the post level while logged in?

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 54 days ago +1 / -0

This way:

go COG WHEEL > SETTINGS > Community Stylings ON > OFF > SAVE

With Community Stylings off, the Downvote button becomes enabled.

If you wish to return to Community Stylings, then reverse the procedure:

COG WHEEL > SETTINGS > Community Stylings OFF > ON > SAVE.

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– NeverStopBelieving 12 points 55 days ago +12 / -0

Can i get that in writing lol ! Love your faith ! Man wouldn’t that be the greatest gift to our country ! Do you really think there’s a chance ?

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– Revodude 4 points 55 days ago +4 / -0

I think the probability is high.

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– IAMMEFORREAL 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

It has to happen. We must take our country back.

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– skidder1 2 points 55 days ago +2 / -0

Ludwig was NOT the name of the original SSN owner that was named by Orly Taitz, who was the person who worked to get this information in front of a judge. The only case not dismissed due to lack of standing was heard by some lowly district court in GA. This story is likely disinfo put out by the CIA types to derail any of this investigation. The SSN in question was issued in Conn. That's a fact that hasn't been repudiated with any success since that was how they were issued up until that was changed during Obama's presidency, coincidently (cough, cough). There's never been a reasonable explanation for how Obama came to be issued a Conn. SSN, at least that I've heard. So all this talk about this guy or that guy is really missing the point. The SSN was issued from Conn. Explain that?

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– deleted 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

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