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I just pulled up an article. Looks to me like:

Ukrainian narrative = Russian ship sank due to Ukrainian missile(s); crew lost at sea

Russian narrative = Russian ship had an accident on board and caught fire; the ship was evacuated and towed to port; while being towed to port, a storm sank the ship

Which story is closer to the truth? I have no idea.

This seems to be the reason for the claim that the sailors were lost at sea:

At a farewell ceremony for the sunken ship, however, journalists noticed that a memorial ribbon displayed during the event was inscribed, “To the ship and its sailors.”

Seems like a flimsy thing to make such a claim.

In the next sentence, it says:

The next day, Russia’s Defense Ministry published footage of a meeting between the Moskva’s crew and Navy commander-in-chief Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov. Reporters at The Insider determined that roughly 100 sailors appear in the video.

Seems like they are alive, after all, unless this is propaganda of some sort.

Then again, there are some other sources of info in that article from people who claim to have relatives who are still missing. But just a handful. That seems more like an explosion on board, rather than a missile attack that put the ship at the bottom of the Black Sea.

Would be nice if some reporter did some ... jouralism ... and find out if there was actually a storm in the region at that time.

This is just the first article that came up in my search, and I don't take it as gospel, but it's a place to start.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/at-least-thirty-seven-dead

I'm thinking ...

If I am in a military operation, and the other side sinks my ship with a missile ... then my response is to blast the FUCK out of wherever that missile came from.

I don't see any stories about that.

Does Russia still have ships in the region? Do they seem AT ALL concerned about another "missile strike?" If no, then that answers who is telling the truth.

Anyway ... nothing about it being a British ship in that article.

Since the claim was made, but nobody can cite any source for it, I assume it is probably not true.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

2 years ago
2 score
Reason: None provided.

I just pulled up an article. Looks to me like:

Ukrainian narrative = Russian ship sank due to Ukrainian missile(s); crew lost at sea

Russian narrative = Russian ship had an accident on board and caught fire; the ship was evacuated and towed to port; while being towed to port, a storm sank the ship

Which story is closer to the truth? I have no idea.

This seems to be the reason for the claim that the sailors were lost at sea:

At a farewell ceremony for the sunken ship, however, journalists noticed that a memorial ribbon displayed during the event was inscribed, “To the ship and its sailors.”

Seems like a flimsy thing to make such a claim.

In the next sentence, it says:

The next day, Russia’s Defense Ministry published footage of a meeting between the Moskva’s crew and Navy commander-in-chief Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov. Reporters at The Insider determined that roughly 100 sailors appear in the video.

Seems like they are alive, after all, unless this is propaganda of some sort.

Then again, there are some other sources of info in that article from people who claim to have relatives who are still missing. But just a handful. That seems more like an explosion on board, rather than a missile attack that put the ship at the bottom of the Black Sea.

Would be nice if some reporter did some ... jouralism ... and find out if there was actually a storm in the region at that time.

This is just the first article that same up in my search, and I don't take it as gospel, but it's a place to start.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/at-least-thirty-seven-dead

I'm thinking ...

If I am in a military operation, and the other side sinks my ship with a missile ... then my response is to blast the FUCK out of wherever that missile came from.

I don't see any stories about that.

Does Russia still have ships in the region? Do they seem AT ALL concerned about another "missile strike?" If no, then that answers who is telling the truth.

Anyway ... nothing about it being a British ship in that article.

Since the claim was made, but nobody can cite any source for it, I assume it is probably not true.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

2 years ago
2 score
Reason: Original

I just pulled up an article. Looks to me like:

Ukrainian narrative = Russian ship sank due to Ukrainian missile(s); crew lost at sea

Russian narrative = Russian ship had an accident on board and caught fire; the ship was evacuated and towed to port; while being towed to port, a storm sank the ship

Which story is closer to the truth? I have no idea.

This seems to be the reason for the claim that the sailors were lost at sea:

At a farewell ceremony for the sunken ship, however, journalists noticed that a memorial ribbon displayed during the event was inscribed, “To the ship and its sailors.”

Seems like a flimsy thing to make such a claim.

In the next sentence, it says:

The next day, Russia’s Defense Ministry published footage of a meeting between the Moskva’s crew and Navy commander-in-chief Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov. Reporters at The Insider determined that roughly 100 sailors appear in the video.

Seems like they are alive, after all, unless this is propaganda of some sort.

Then again, there are some other sources of info in that article from people who claim to have relatives who are still missing. But just a handful. That seems more like an explosion on board, rather than a missile attack that put the ship at the bottom of the Black Sea.

Would be nice if some reporter did some ... jouralism ... and find out if there was actually a storm in the region at that time.

This is just the first article that same up in my search, and I don't take it as gospel, but it's a place to start.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/at-least-thirty-seven-dead

I'm thinking ...

If I am in a military operation, and the other side sinks my ship with a missile ... then my response is to blast the FUCK out of wherever that missile came from.

I don't see any stories about that.

Does Russia still have ships in the region? Do they seem AT ALL concerned about another "missile strike?" If no, then that answers who is telling the truth.

Anyway ... nothing about it being a British ship in that article.

Since you made that claim, and could not cite any source for it, I assume it is probably not true.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

2 years ago
1 score