John is the oldest writer. He would have likely been aware of the other apostles writings.
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What you have written above is interpretation, and speculation. Which is fine, but don't make it out to be something that it isn't.
He clearly writes "the words of the prophecy of this book". It is called the book of revelation aka John's Revelation. It is a book of prophecy, whereas the Gospel is much, much more than a book of prophecy. In fact, more than anything, its a book of history than of prophecy.
I agree that many of the mysteries not revealed in the old and new testament pertain to the afterlife, but why are they not important? Fear of death and obsession with the material world are still massive plagues to humankind.
Today, the intellectual advancement of humanity is light years beyond what it was 2000 years ago. There are literally thousands of things that would have been incomprehensible to someone of Jesus time, which now are common knowledge and vastly accessible intellectually.
But there are myriad other things not revealed clearly by the old testament or new testament: Why did God prepare the Israelites for 2000 years if death of the Cross was required? Why is the biblical time from Adam to Abraham 2000 years, and the period from Abraham to Jesus 2000 years? Why wait so long? Why was it necessary to have salvation via the cross accomplished but then take 2000+ years to do the second coming?
We can speculate and rationalize about these things, but the clear fact is, these are examples of things that are NOT explained clearly in the scripture.
I agree that we today have something that no one recorded in the Bible had (excepting of course Jesus), and the value of that should never been dismissed or ignored.
However, whereas there is this one line in the Book of Revelation, which one can speculate about, there are many, many instances in the scripture that indicate that we do not have the whole truth.
The Israelites thought they knew everything, and they were unable to receive Jesus teaching which was on a much higher level, and this made them "stiff necked" - unable to mentally turn towards Jesus and learn from him. Is it possible that this could happen when he returns? Jesus actually indicates that this might be the case.
One last point: No one but Jesus even realized the clear instance of "second coming" at Jesus time, which he finally revealed to his disciples because the teachers of the law were challenging them saying Jesus could not be the Messiah, because the second coming of Elijah was not realized. "If he is the Messiah, then where is Elijah?"
Who does Jesus say was Elijah? Who fulfilled the second coming of Elijah? How?
We already have a very clear example of 'second coming' in the Gospels. But who is paying attention? Are we so caught up in our doctrinal interpretations that we miss the clear truth?
Thanks for replying and sharing your view.
John is the oldest writer. He would have likely been aware of the other apostles writings.
Thanks for replying.
What you have written above is interpretation, and speculation. Which is fine, but don't make it out to be something that it isn't.
He clearly writes "the words of the prophecy of this book". It is called the book of revelation aka John's Revelation. It is a book of prophecy, whereas the Gospel is much, much more than a book of prophecy. In fact, more than anything, its a book of history than of prophecy.
I agree that many of the mysteries not revealed in the old and new testament pertain to the afterlife, but why are they not important? Fear of death and obsession with the material world are still massive plagues to humankind.
Today, the intellectual advancement of humanity is light years beyond what it was 2000 years ago. There are literally thousands of things that would have been incomprehensible to someone of Jesus time, which now are common knowledge and vastly accessible intellectually.
But there are myriad other things not revealed clearly by the old testament or new testament: Why did God prepare the Israelites for 2000 years if death of the Cross was required? Why is the biblical time from Adam to Abraham 2000 years, and the period from Abraham to Jesus 2000 years? Why wait so long? Why was it necessary to have salvation via the cross accomplished but then take 2000+ years to do the second coming?
We can speculate and rationalize about these things, but the clear fact is, these are examples of things that are NOT explained clearly in the scripture.
I agree that we today have something that no one recorded in the Bible had (excepting of course Jesus), and the value of that should never been dismissed or ignored.
However, whereas there is this one line in the Book of Revelation, which one can speculate about, there are many, many instances in the scripture that indicate that we do not have the whole truth.
The Israelites thought they knew everything, and they were unable to receive Jesus teaching which was on a much higher level, and this made them "stiff necked" - unable to mentally turn towards Jesus and learn from him. Is it possible that this could happen when he returns? Jesus even indicates that this might be the case.
One last point: No one but Jesus even realized the FIRST instance of "second coming", which he finally revealed to his disciples because the teachers of the law were challenging them saying Jesus could not be the Messiah, because the second coming of Elijah was not realized. "If he is the Messiah, then where is Elijah?"
We already have a very clear example of 'second coming' in the Gospels. But who is paying attention? Are we so caught up in our doctrinal interpretations that we miss the clear truth?