Good for you!

I talked to several attorneys who all told me to take a plea deal.

MOST attorneys don't do SHIT for most people. They just want the money.

I spoke with an attorney at a bar once. He said he had a DUI case where the guy he was representing was charged with his 6th DUI.

The attorney and prosecutor had a conversation. The prosecutor offered a deal. The attorney said, "That is a good deal, and we will take it. But stretch it out for awhile. I need to justify my $15,000 fee."

That's how those cockroaches are.

Oh, I am sure there are a few good ones. FEW being the key word.

I decided to go pro se and went to the first court hearing on my own even though I didn't really know what I was doing. The judge said they would set the case for trial and then a couple weeks later I got a notice in the mail from the prosecutor saying the case was dismissed.

My own experience is similar. It was a speeding ticket, not DUI. I made lots of mistakes, but I hit them with something they didn't know how to handle.

The ticket would have been $150, but if I went to trial, it could have been as high as $300.

I told the prosecutor before talking with the judge that I was not going to agree to a plea for a lower fee.

She offered this and that, and eventually offered me to pay $20 and it would go away. I said, "NO."

LOL.. Shows how serious they really were if they would let it go for 20 bucks.

She asked (incredulously), "Why?"

I said because I was going to challenge subject matter jurisdiction.

SMJ requires a proper charging document, which I knew they didn't have (but I didn't tell her that).

When I finally spoke to the judge (traffic court, which is not a REAL court, but merely an administrative hearing disguised as a court), the first thing she said was, "I understand that you want to challenge subject matter jurisdiction. What do you mean?"

Well, I KNEW I HAD HER at that moment. Obviously, since I did not tell the judge this, I knew that the judge and prosecutor talked about my case between themselves WITHOUT ME PRESENT (they have zero respect for anyone who is not "represented by a licensed attorney").

This action on their part was an "ex parte hearing," which is a VIOLATION OF DUE PROCESS.

If a court (judge) violates due process, the judges LOSES JURISDICTION and must dismiss the case!

But I didn't say anything about that. Just kept my mouth shut other than to say, "Yes, I am challenging subject matter jurisdiction."

At this point, the judge is REQUIRED to have MY ADVERSARY PROVE that the court had jurisdiction. But that never happened.

They ALWAYS cut corners, because that is how they "do business" everyday. This is why they don't like people like you and me holding them to the LAW. They have no respect for the law. They only virtue signal that they do.

Anyway ... the judge turned into a RAGING BITCH and refused to let me say anything, and set a date for trial.

Fine. I'm cool with that, because I was ready.

On the day of the trial, I show up. And I am told that the "prosecutor is not here today." Not the cop, but the PROSECUTOR.

As if. That is their ONLY job, to show up and prosecute traffic tickets so the city/state can ring the cash register.

Anyway, no prosecutor, no trial. Case dismissed.

Cost: $0.

Value of experience: Priceless.

Good for you!

I talked to several attorneys who all told me to take a plea deal.

MOST attorneys don't do SHIT for most people. They just want the money.

I spoke with an attorney at a bar once. He said he had a DUI case where the guy he was representing was charged with his 6th DUI.

The attorney and prosecutor had a conversation. The prosecutor offered a deal. The attorney said, "That is a good deal, and we will take it. But stretch it out for awhile. I need to justify my $15,000 fee."

That's how those cockroaches are.

Oh, I am sure there are a few good ones. FEW being the key word.

I decided to go pro se and went to the first court hearing on my own even though I didn't really know what I was doing. The judge said they would set the case for trial and then a couple weeks later I got a notice in the mail from the prosecutor saying the case was dismissed.

My own experience is similar. It was a speeding ticket, not DUI. I made lots of mistakes, but I hit them with something they didn't know how to handle.

The ticket would have been $150, but if I went to trial, it could have been as high as $300.

I told the prosecutor before talking with the judge that I was not going to agree to a plea for a lower fee.

She offered this and that, and eventually offered me to pay $20 and it would go away. I said, "NO."

LOL.. Shows how serious they really were if they would let it go for 20 bucks.

Sha asked (incredulously), "Why?"

I said because I was going to challenge subject matter jurisdiction.

SMJ requires a proper charging document, which I knew they didn't have (but I didn't tell her that).

When I finally spoke to the judge (traffic court, which is not a REAL court, but whatever ... ), the first thing she said was, "I understand that you want to challenge subject matter jurisdiction. What do you mean?"

Well, I KNEW I HAD HER at that moment. Obviously, since I did not tell the judge this, I knew that the judge and prosecutor talked about my case between themselves WITHOUT ME PRESENT (they have zero respect for anyone who is not "represented by a licensed attorney").

This action on their part was an "ex parte hearing," which is a VIOLATION OF DUE PROCESS.

If a court (judge) violates due process, the judges LOSES JURISDICTION and must dismiss the case!

But I didn't say anything about that. Just kept my mouth shut other than to say, "Yes, I am challenging subject matter jurisdiction."

At this point, the judge is REQUIRED to have MY ADVERSARY PROVE that the court had jurisdiction. But that never happened.

They ALWAYS cut corners, because that is how they "do business" everyday. This is why they don't like people like you and me holding them to the LAW. They have no respect for the law. They only virtue signal that they do.

Anyway ... the judge turned into a RAGING BITCH and refused to let me say anything, and set a date for trial.

Fine. I'm cool with that, because I was ready.

On the day of the trial, I show up. And I am told that the "prosecutor is not here today." Not the cop, but the PROSECUTOR.

As if. That is their ONLY job, to show up and prosecute traffic tickets so the city/state can ring the cash register.

Anyway, no prosecutor, no trial. Case dismissed.

Cost: $0.

Value of experience: Priceless.

Good for you!

I talked to several attorneys who all told me to take a plea deal.

MOST attorneys don't do SHIT for most people. They just want the money.

I spoke with an attorney at a bar once. He said he had a DUI case where the guy he was representing was charged with his 6th DUI.

The attorney and prosecutor had a conversation. The prosecutor offered a deal. The attorney said, "That is a good deal, and we will take it. But stretch it out for awhile. I need to justify my $15,000 fee."

That's how those cockroaches are.

Oh, I am sure there are a few good ones. FEW being the key word.

I decided to go pro se and went to the first court hearing on my own even though I didn't really know what I was doing. The judge said they would set the case for trial and then a couple weeks later I got a notice in the mail from the prosecutor saying the case was dismissed.

My own experience is similar. It was a speeding ticket, not DUI. I made lots of mistakes, but I hit them with something they didn't know how to handle.

The ticket would have been $150, but if I went to trial, it could have been as high as $300.

I told the prosecutor before talking with the judge that I was not going to agree to a plea for a lower fee.

She offered this and that, and eventually offered me to pay $20 and it would go away. I said, "NO."

LOL.. Shows how serious they really were if they would let it go for 20 bucks.

Sha asked (incredulously), "Why?"

I said because I was going to challenge subject matter jurisdiction.

SMJ requires a proper charging document, which I knew they didn't have (but I didn't tell her that).

When I finally spoke to the judge (traffic court, which is not a REAL court, but whatever ...), the first thing she said was, "I understand that you want to challenge subject matter jurisdiction. What do you mean?"

Well, I KNEW I HAD HER at that moment, but I didn't say anything about it. Obviously, since I did not tell the judge this, I knew that the judge and prosecutor talked about my case between themselves WITHOUT ME PRESENT (they have zero respect for anyone who is not "represented by a licensed attorney."

This action on their part was and "ex parte hearing," which is a VIOLATION OF DUE PROCESS.

If a court (judge) violates due process, he judges LOSES JURISDICTION and must dismiss the case!

But I didn't say anything about that. Just kept my mouth shut other than to say, "Yes, I am challenging subject matter jurisdiction."

At this point, the judge is REQUIRED to have MY ADVERSARY PROVE that the court had jurisdiction. But that never happened.

They ALWAYS cut corners, because that is how they "do business" everyday. This is why they don't like people like you and me holding them to the LAW. They have no respect for the law. They only virtue signal that they do.

Anyway ... the judge turned into a RAGING BITCH and refused to let me say anything, and set a date for trial.

Fine. I'm cool with that, because I was ready.

On the day of the trial, I show up. And I am told that the "prosecutor is not here today." Not the cop, but the PROSECUTOR.

As if. That is their ONLY job, to show up and prosecute traffic tickets so the city/state can ring the cash register.

Anyway, no prosecutor, no trial. Case dismissed.

Cost: $0.

Value of experience: Priceless.