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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any independent existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The energy released is 1/2 the charge stored up times the potential difference between the glass and the wires (ground). You can think of "charge" as being the strength of the field (like "mass" is to gravity), and "potential" as being the difference of that field strength (in this case the difference in the field strength between the dielectric, which is storing "extra" charge, and the wire/ground, which is not).

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The energy released is 1/2 the charge stored up times the potential difference between the glass and the wires (ground). You can think of "charge" as being the strength of the field (like "mass" is to gravity), and "potential" as being the difference of that field strength (in this case the difference in the field strength between the dielectric, which is storing "extra" charge, and the wire/ground, which is not).

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The energy released is 1/2 the charge stored up times the potential difference between the glass and the wires (ground). You can think of "charge" as being the strength of the field (like "mass" is to gravity), and "potential" as being the difference of that field strength (in this case the difference in the field strength between the dielectric and the wire/ground).

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The energy released is 1/2 the charge stored up times the potential difference between the glass and the wires (ground). You can think of "charge" as being the strength of the field (like "mass" is to gravity), and "potential" as being the difference of that field strength (in this case the difference in the field strength between the dielectric and the wire/ground).

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground. (The energy released is 1/2 the charge stored up times the potential difference between the glass and the wires (ground).)

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
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could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But Lewin is saying that charge is being stored on the dielectric. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. It's really only a field measurement. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what Lewin is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what Lewin is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. He imagined a "real" physical universe, but physics does not imagine such a universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what Lewin is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. A "real" physical universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video (a very well presented video, even though I think his ultimate conclusion was wrong because of his misunderstanding), where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what he is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. A "real" physical universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that same wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video, where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what he is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. A "real" physical universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says. In addition the wave that was measured loses its coherence, and as far as future measurements on the field is concerned, it is as if that particular wave is completely gone (i.e. we measured the value of the wave, then it disappeared). That is why we say that "the electron existed in only one place." Because when we measure the field perturbation (wave) we measure it in one place, and then as new wave is created. The old wave is complete gone. We won't measure that wave anywhere else (the wave form collapses).

This gives the idea of some particle, but that's not what physics says it is. The "particleness" of matter is illusory according to physics.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video, where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what he is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. A "real" physical universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score
Reason: Original

could it be that your assumptions were wrong?

The only assumption I have that I think is likely true, is that all of my other assumptions are wrong. The only question is how wrong.

Or your study was compartmentalized as part of a larger body of science that could have pointed your experiments on the wrong direction at the start?

My study is far broader than you imagine I think. Nevertheless, I stated I was willing to engage in earnest debate, and I am. The Truth is all that matters. I have no beliefs (as most people define the term).

I will point out that the widely held electron theory can't explain how a standard capacitor works.

First I want to say, I have no idea what you mean by "electron theory." I've never heard the term before, nor can I imagine what it means, since it seems a non-sensible term to me. Electrons are, according to physics, like all other particles, measurements of perturbations of a field. They don't have any existence per se, but when we measure perturbations of the electric field (waves) we get discrete measurements with a minimum possible value. That minimum value is what we call the electric charge of an electron, but that's a phrase for convenience, not what the math itself (QED) says.

Second, I watched the video you linked, and I watched Lewin's presentation. Lewin is suggesting that their is a charge build up on the dielectric. This is exactly the same as what happens when you rub glass with wool. It builds up a charge on the surface of the dielectric by transferring electrons (minimum discrete value of electric charge).

In the first video, where he provides his evidence against "electron theory" (I'm still trying to wrap my head around what he means by that phrase), he suggests that Lewin is saying you can't store energy in the dielectric. But that is exactly what he is saying happens. The "spraying of electrons" could be thought of as depositing charge (you can call that charge "electrons" for convenience) on the dielectric. Thus it is storing charge (not energy per se, but charge). Energy is released when that charge goes back into the wires when they are connected because there is a potential difference between the glass (or plastic, or water) that is storing the charge, and the wire, which is at ground.

The video that claimed he was disproving this event actually proved it with his last experiment. He stated that because water is such a great insulator that it can't be a dielectric (or something like that). But a dielectric IS an insulator. That's what the jar is (an insulator aka a dielectric) and that's what the water is (an insulator aka a dielectric). They are two words for the same thing. In addition it looked to me that he put the wire on the plastic itself (not just immersed in water, but in contact with the jar) which would put the jar as the only dielectric. I don't think that would actually make a difference in the overall effect except by amount of stored charge, so not a big deal.

In other words, the "proof' was a misconception of what a dielectric is. Perhaps also what an "electron" is according to physics. This is very common in my experience. The word "particle" is such an unfortunate word, left over from Plato's "Atomic" theory of matter where he imagined an indivisible substance. A "real" physical universe.

Current physics has, at least for those actually working on it, almost completely discarded the idea of anything physical existing at all. It's all fields, and perturbations of those fields. I.e. it's all waves in physics. No particles allowed.

If you have flat earth stuff you want to show me I would be happy to go through it. So far, every experiment I have seen has not been what people think it is, or rather, it has a perfectly consistent explanation within current global physics. And I've done a fair bit of looking, because my mind is open to anything. But I also have a lot of knowledge, so it takes really good evidence to convince me that there is anything there.

Even saying that though, that doesn't mean that just because current physics can explain something that means it's right. But it does mean that alternate explanations that rely on it being wrong lose credibility when they themselves can't come up with a better explanation of experimental observation, and, so far, always fall far short in one area or another.

1 year ago
1 score