Sigh... It's like talking to a globe-earther, white knuckles and all... I get it, though. Some cognitive dissonances are hard to work through, despite your otherwise valid points.

A little like your crappy potshot at people who maybe don't believe what the government has been telling us about the earth.

You can't just make your valid points and let them stand. No, you have to cheapen it by making it seem like people who suspect the government has lied to us about much more than JFK are s bunch of crazies.

You forget where you are?