A Warning On 'Spike Detox'

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250591

This looks very bad for those who think Ivermectin is a "spike problem fix" -- it instead looks like a "spike problem masker", much like taking Aspirin or Tylenol will alleviate the symptoms of a headache, but if the cause is still there when the drug wears off......you still have a headache.

This is unfortunate.

I hope eventually they are able to come up with a real "detox" that stops you from making the damn spike proteins in the first place.

So I read one of the medical posts here on GAW about how a 7-day regimen of low-dose (7mg) nicotine patches could kick long covid. The post was actually a link to a long rumble video in which the key takeaway was the patch will alleviate all long-covid symptoms and was a good detox from the vax.

The video featured Dr Ardis. Anons will remember him from Stew Peter's "Watch the Water / Snake Venom Everywhere" hype. I personally think Stew is the clown waiting in line for when Alex Jones fades away, but I think Dr. Ardis is a good guy who was set up by Stew. Either way, I decided to research nicotine. Especially because (as many anons remember) cigarette smokers enjoyed protection from covid back when it was new in 2020 and honest doctors and reporters everywhere were shocked that a "respiratory disease" didn't get the smokers first.

Anyway, it turns out that tobacco, with its nicotine, has a long history of being used as an antiparasitic. So whether you like Dr. Ardis or not, detoxing with a 7mg patch each day for a week is a lot more convenient and cheaper than the other protocols I've seen (curcumin + bromelain + nattokinase twice daily, for example). From a number of other sources, 7mg appears low enough to not have to work about addiction.

Here are some studies. Obviously there's no shortage of puff pieces about how horrible smoking is, but feel free to read and think for yourself. Cheers!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31276744/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4996163/

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.826889/full

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513814000567

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/4-uses-for-tobacco-in-a-survival-situation/

And here's the original detox post that got me interested - https://greatawakening.win/p/17rm5LyNAT/the-dr-ardis-show--episode-08282/

RE: MIT Expert Calls for Immediate Stop of mRNA COVID Jabs: Evidence Shows ‘Unprecedented Level of Harm’, et al

To Whom It May concern:

I/We are calling for immediate stop of Covid jabs due to significant evidence that shows unprecedented level of harm.

I/We are also calling for immediate stop of REMDESIVIR for the treatment of Covid-19 infection due to significant evidence that shows unprecedented level of harm.

These call for the immediate stop of Covid jabs and REMDESIVIR are based on the information below:

“No animal studies were performed before they injected billions of people” https://twitter.com/bambkb/status/1729872546227720664

1. Pandemic was/is a planned depopulation agenda by globalist:

General Flynn: The Vaccine - The Murder Weapon. https://rumble.com/v32tj76-general-flynn-the-vaccine-the-murder-weapon..html

Australian Senator Malcolm Robert Re [P]landemic: ‘We Will Hound You Down https://files.catbox.moe/bup1an.mp4 https://www.malcolmrobertsqld.com.au/the-covid-inquiry-2-0/ https://twitter.com/diedsuddenly_/status/1730937791985353195

The harsh truth is there is a crime of unprecedented proportion currently unfolding. A crime that, at its core, has nothing to do with our health. A very serious crisis that has been unleashed upon humanity. It is entirely man-made and driven by a fear-based narrative designed to gradually take away our freedoms and prosperity.  This crisis has been planned carefully over decades by private corporations and supranational organisations to which our governments, knowingly or not, have become subservient. https://nzdsos.com/2021/10/08/the-rise-of-totalitarianism/

Former vice president at Pfizer, Dr. Mike Yeadon: The so-called "pandemic" was planned and co-ordinated in advance, by unelected globalist bodies like the WHO and WEF, as a pretext to deliberately depopulate the planet via lethal mRNA injections: https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/16983

Ron Johnson Claims COVID Was ‘Pre-Planned by Elite Group, Citing Event 201’ in Connection with Johns Hopkins Center, WEF, and Gates Foundation Exercise https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/ron-johnson-claims-covid-was-pre-planned-elite/

This is the most important video you will watch this year. Millions were killed with Covid-19 for profit. https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1661698114917646336

COVID-19 Enterprise Fraud Construct Timeline: Major Dates, Events, Entities & Legislation https://politicalmoonshine.com/2021/09/29/covid-19-enterprise-fraud-construct-timeline-major-dates-events-entities-legislation/

The Fauci COVID 19 Dossier https://archive.org/details/the-fauci-covid-19-dossier/page/18/mode/2up

😱Covid-19 Medical Test kits (300215) imports by country in 2018 👀👀👀 https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Imports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/300215

2. Increase in morbidity and mortality(more injections worse outcome). These adverse outcomes were known and presented by FDA on October 22, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/live/1XTiL9rUpkg

There are over 3400 peer-reviewed papers in the National Library of Medicine that show the #Covid #Vaccine is killing people https://twitter.com/bambkb/status/1730234416000094501

Adverse effects of COVID-19 vaccines https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9167431/

INJECTICIDE & Vaccidents https://files.catbox.moe/k7fl1t.pdf

Death Sentence: 1 Million COVID Vaccinated have died in England compared to just 61k Unvaccinated in 2 years; despite 30% of the Population refusing a single dose of the COVID Injection https://expose-news.com/2023/12/05/death-sentence-covid-vaccine-1-million-deaths/

mRNA COVID Vaccines Form Spike Protein in Heart Cells, but Cause Different Anomalies: Research Article https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theepochtimes.com%2Fhealth%2Fmrna-covid-vaccines-form-spike-protein-in-heart-cells-but-cause-different-anomalies-research-article-551359

Secret CDC Report confirms Hundreds of Thousands of Children ‘Died Suddenly’ in the USA following roll-out of COVID-19 Vaccines https://generalmcnews.substack.com/p/secret-cdc-report-confirms-hundreds

2066 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1446 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot

World Premiere: Died Suddenly https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly

DEVASTATING: Fully-Vaxxed New Zealand Suffers a Staggering 3000% Spike in Excess Deaths https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/devastating-fully-vaxxed-new-zealand BREAKING: I now have record-level data from THREE different authoritative sources. The data all shows the same thing. https://twitter.com/stkirsch/status/

Microbiologist Kevin McKernan discovered concerning levels of DNA contamination in Pfizer and Moderna vials, including Simian Virus 40 (SV40) promoters tied to cancer development in humans: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1660026587121688576.html

WORLD FIRST: My new Epoch Times article titled "mRNA COVID Vaccines May Be Triggering ‘Turbo Cancers’ in Young People" is the FIRST EVER in depth analysis of how mRNA vaccines may be causing Turbo Cancers! https://twitter.com/MakisMD/status/1685973896879874048

“Turbo Cancers” Are Decimating Young Doctors: 54 Cases Examined Out of 180 Canadian doctors who have died unexpectedly since COVID-19 vaccines rolled out in Canada, 42 had cancer. https://vigilantnews.com/post/turbo-cancers-are-decimating-young-doctors-54-cases-examined

Teachers Are Being Decimated by Aggressive and Metastatic Cancers After COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates https://vigilantnews.com/post/teachers-are-being-decimated-by-aggressive-and-metastatic-cancers-after-covid-19-vaccine-

Young adults who took 4 COVID vaccines are 256% more likely to die, especially from TURBO CANCERS https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-12-03-young-adults-four-vaccines-256-percent-die.html

Cancer Taking Off ‘Like Wildfire’: Unsettling Insights from Pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/c

Spike Protein in COVID-19 Vaccines Triggering Cancers and Clots: Pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/spike-protein-in-covid-19-vaccines-triggering-cancers-and-clots-pathologist-dr-ryan-cole-4820381

Shocking Report: U.S. Government Data Reveals a Staggering 143,233% Surge in Fatal Cancer Cases Linked to COVID Vaccinations https://expose-news.com/2023/12/08/shocking-risein-cancer-cases-linked-to-c19-vaccinaion/

Shot Dead The Movie https://rumble.com/v3v0q2m-shot-dead-the-movie.html

https://wethepatriotsusa.org/shot-dead-movie/

Safe and Effective: A Second Opinion (2022) Oracle Films | News Uncut https://rumble.com/v1lwbgs-safe-and-effective-a-second-opinion-2022-oracle-films-news-uncut.html https://onevsp.com/watch/6aNznsZcpiCqmPh

Premeditated Murder: They Knew Remdesivir Would KiII, and They Did It Anyway https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1724879321255366971

RFK Jr: "Tony Fauci Knew That Remdesivir Would Kill You"https://rumble.com/v39ewze-rfk-jr-tony-fauci-knew-that-remdesivir-would-kill-you.html

It's Murder': Remdesivir Victims Decry FDA's Shocking New Move https://12ft.io/proxy

How many people were killed by the use of Remdesivir and Midazolam + Morphine in the US and UK? https://peterhalligan.substack.com/p/how-many-people-were-killed-by-the

The ‘very, very bad look' of remdesivir, the first FDA-approved COVID-19 drug The Food and Drug Administration held no advisory meeting on antiviral, and the European Union signed contract without knowing of failed trial https://www.science.org/content/article/very-very-bad-look-remdesivir-first-fda-approved-covid-19-drug

”The U.S Government Went Against the WHO's Warning & Bribed Hospitals to Administer a Deadly Drug” ~Dr McCullough https://twitter.com/Sgtnewsnetwork/status/1609952071683293184

Covid-19: Remdesivir has little or no impact on survival, WHO trial shows BMJ 2020; 371 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m4057 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4057.short

Remdesivir for the treatment of COVID-19 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34350582/

CDC Director Admits Agency Gave False Information on COVID-19 Vaccine Safety https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/cdc-director-admits-agency-gave-false-information-on-covid-19-vaccine-safety-monitoring-4726981

CDC Quietly Removes COVID-19 Vaccine Adverse Events Collection From Website https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/cdc-quietly-removes-covid-vaccine-adverse-events-reporting-from-website-5481759

Exclusive: Proof that Israel found serious safety problems with the COVID vaccines then deliberately covered it up https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/exclusive-proof-that-the-top-israeli

BREAKING: VAERS data clearly shows that the COVID vaccines are an unmitigated disaster for pregnant women https://kirschsubstack.com/p/breaking-vaers-data-clearly-shows

Dr. Mike Yeadon, former vice president and global division head at Pfizer, tells Dr. Drew that the experimental mRNA injections administered during "Covid" were deliberately formulated to accumulate in the ovaries and produce mass infertility. https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1687089577662513152

Pfizer ADR docs https://pdata0916.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pdocs/070122/125742_S1_M5_5351_c4591001-fa-interim-narrative-sensitive.pdf

Horowitz: Confidential Pfizer document shows the company observed 1.6 million adverse events covering nearly every organ system https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-confidential-pfizer-document-shows-the-company-observed-1-6-million-adverse-events-covering-nearly-every-organ-system-2661316948.html

Pfizer Trial shows They Lied. People Died. Deep State Did This. Clip of Low Lives Now Claiming No One Was Forced https://summarynews.whatfinger.com/2023/09/04/pfizer-trial-shows-they-lied-people-died-deep-state-did-this-clip-of-low-lives-now-claiming-no-one-was-forced/

Moderna Pfizer studies increase jab ADR https://beckernews.com/international-study-shows-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-associated-with-increased-risk-of-serious-adverse-events-45524/

DMED DATA Reveals Incredibly Disturbing Spikes in Vaccine Injuries Across the Board https://sarahwestall.com/dmed-data-reveals-incredibly-disturbing-spikes-in-vaccine-injuries-across-the-board/

Hospital ‘Murder’: Attorney Unveils Shocking Survival Rates Among Mechanically Ventilated COVID Patients https://dailyclout.io/hospital-murder-attorney-unveils-shocking-survival-rates-among-mechanically-ventilated-covid-patients/

C19 did not kill people, intentional malpractice did. 2 minute video https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/096/903/997/playable/df4fbea733e0ced4.mp4

Covid is over, and in its wake are six million avoidable deaths, 36 million "vaccine" deaths, and $1.8 trillion down the drain for useless masks and tests https://citizens.news/726487.html

3. Call to stop Covid-19 injections

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is calling for all COVID-19 vaccines and boosters to be removed from the market because of excess risk of injection. https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1725168843977351643

MIT Expert Calls for Immediate Stop of mRNA COVID Jabs: Evidence Shows ‘Unprecedented Level of Harm’ https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/mit-expert-calls-for-immediate-stop-of-mrna-covid-jab-evidence-shows-unprecedented-leve

Calls to ‘Stop the Shots’ Intensify https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/stop-the-shots-covid-vaccines/

400 Doctors and Professionals Declare International Medical Crisis Due to Covid Vaccine Injuries and Deaths https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/10/400-doctors-and-professionals-declare-international-medical-crisis-due-to-covid-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths/

4. Covid-19 injections not effective (before being available to public and after)

Dr. Deborah Birx says she 'knew' COVID vaccines would not 'protect against infection' https://youtu.be/4NYIFOwsRE8 https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-deborah-birx-knew-covid-vaccines-not-protect-against-infection

We overplayed COVID vaccines: Dr Birx https://www.foxnews.com/video/6309894092112

People lost their jobs over vaccines Dr. Birx said she knew ‘didn’t work’ https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/people-lost-their-jobs-over-vaccines-that-dr-birx-said-she-knew-didnt-work

Dr. Birx's Bombshell Vaccine Admission: I Knew Vaccines Wouldn't Protect Against Infection https://www.westernjournal.com/dr-birxs-bombshell-vaccine-admission-knew-vaccines-wouldnt-protect-infection/

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/birx-admits-covid-19-vaccines-were-never-going-protect-against-infection

Dr. Birx says vaccine promises were based on hope https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5022007/user-clip-dr-birx-vaccine-promises-based-hope

https://rumble.com/v19l0h4-dr.-deborah-birx-admits-the-biden-admins-vaccine-efficacy-claims-were-based.html

CDC Whistleblower: “Vaccines Never Meant to Stop Covid-19” https://realrawnews.com/2022/01/cdc-whistleblower-vaccines-never-meant-to-stop-covid-19/

Pfizer did not know whether Covid vaccine stopped transmission before rollout, executive admits https://youtu.be/mnxlxzxoZx0 https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/pfizer-did-not-know-whether-covid-vaccine-stopped-transmission-before-rollout-executive-admits/news-story/f307f28f794e173ac017a62784fec414 https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/claims-that-pfizer-didn-t-know-if-covid-vaccine-prevented-transmission-before-rollout-are-missing-context/ar-AA13e7bv https://twitter.com/buzzedbeard/status/1686473123762229250

Dr. Fauci Admits COVID Shots Didn’t Have A Chance Of Controlling The Pandemic https://archive.is/uNjAN

Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8 Fauci - coauthored

The Gates-way drug – Bill Gates suddenly slams mRNA shots after selling BioNTech stock with 10X gains https://www.biznews.com/premium/health/2023/01/30/bill-gates-mrna

CDC Whistleblower: “Vaccines Never Meant to Stop Covid-19” https://realrawnews.com/2022/01/cdc-whistleblower-vaccines-never-meant-to-stop-covid-19/

5. Legal actions and/or opposing Covid-19 injections, etc

AND SO IT BEGINS The first Class-Action for the vaccine injured filed in the Federal Court of Australia https://twitter.com/CKellyUAP/status/1659281514734178304

“Class action lawsuits are very effective” https://qalerts.app/?q=%231105

Class-Action Lawsuit Filed Against Remdesivir Manufacturer Over Alleged Deceptive Practices https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-remdesivir-manufacturer-over-alleged-deceptive-practices

14 California Families Sue 3 Hospitals for Deadly Remdesivir Protocol https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1663684974988386304

First off want to say, long time lurker here this is my first post and it is long overdue. I want to thank all of you for helping keep me sane over the past couple of years. I am the only one in my personal circle awake and as many have expressed in previous posts, the isolation can get overwhelming at times. My wife trusts me thank God so none of my kids or us got the jab.

With that said it breaks my heart to say the rest of my family (siblings and parents) received the full dosage of jabs (I think 2 or 3?) to qualify as vaccinated even with my warnings and concerns fully expressed (however none of them are getting boosters thankfully). My sister and brother in law have been trying to conceive for over a year now. They have had fertility tests that have come back completely fine. The only health ailment that they have is my sister is a Type 1 diabetic but she is in very good control. She has also oddly enough has heart issues previous to covid where her resting heart rate randomly jumps up, the only explanation from doctor's is another autoimmune condition. The only thing I can think is the vaccine is causing their infertility issues and even with my sister I think parasites may be causing issues.

Any/all prayers would be greatly appreciated. I know of and have heard Dr. McCullough's detox protocol do you think I should gently press them on trying that? Should I also have them try ivermectin just to clean out? I think at this point they are both pretty willing to try anything/everything, but I am not convinced that they are attributing it to the vax.

Has anyone had any success with family members etc with a detox and then being able to conceive when they couldn't previously?

Thanks again to this community, it truly is a godsend!

I have to tell you, the COVID fiasco has been a YUGE eyeopener for a lot of us. After looking into things we're now stopping ALL vaxxxes for our kids even if they're close to getting their last round and for heaven's sake, we're refusing all of the crazy trash they're pushing like the HPV garbage.

I should have taken a clue when a few decades ago I got a damned flu shot and about died from it. Then "trusted the authorities" did it again about a decade later, and nearly died again!

At this point, I want to explore options to reverse, undo, or somehow minimize as much as possible vaccinations that have been being given out since the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and on up.

Does anyone have any research, documentation or seen discussions on these topics?

Detox from Spike Proteins: Here’s How in 73 Seconds, Per Dr. Peter McCullough

“Look at these cardiac arrests, major blood clots, people going down. It’s because the spike protein is not being cleared out of the body,” remarked Dr. McCullough.

He recommended three key supplements to degrade spike proteins and reduce inflammation:

1. Nattokinase - 2000 units twice a day.

2. Bromelain - 500 milligrams once a day.

Nattokinase and bromelain “both degrade the spike protein [in] different ways. They accelerate the clearance of it together,” Dr. McCullough added.

3. Curcumin - 500 milligrams twice a day. Reduces inflammation and spike protein damage.

“All of these are available over the counter,” disclosed. Dr. McCullough. “They are readily available. And I can tell you people ought to get going on this because these syndromes, as we’re finding out, are bad.”

https://twitter.com/twccanadahealth/status/1686440529746370560?s=46&t=8dnhFLc9B_Tg8e71je6dBg

I'm about 4 hours in and I have learned how important the liver is and how it practically controls all organ function including the heart and brain. The liver uses 50% of your blood at all times, it's the most important organ in your body that detoxes you and stores vital nutrients for you when you need them.

If your liver fails, so will everything else...

REMOVE THESE FROM YOUR DIET: Diary (milk, cheese, etc.) Wheat, Grains & Gluten (bread, rice, grains, barley, oats, corn, beer, etc.) Sugar (Obviously) Soy Processed foods (if it comes in a box, DO NOT EAT) Bad Oils (Palm, Vegetable, etc.)

ADD MORE OF THESE TO YOUR DIET: Water Water Water (more WATER) Pasture Raised Organic Eggs Organic Veggies (Broccoli, Garlic, Carrots, Radishes, any) Organic Fruits (Strawberries, Apples, Blueberries any.) Organic Nuts & Seeds (Brazil, Walnut, Cashews, any.) Good Oils (Fish Oil, Omega 3 6 9)

SUPPLEMENTS Alpha Lipoic Acid (600-900 mg) German or Italian manufacturer only Selenium (200 mcg, this can be found in Brazil Nuts) Milk Thistle (2000 mg) Natural Vitamin C (Dr. Berg has a good one)

*If you don't have a gallbladder, try bovine ox bile. *Look into getting an allergy or food sensitivity blood test.

Removing Dairy, Wheat and Grains is so important as they are highly inflammatory foods that cause your liver to over-work itself. It's also important to remove Alcohol, if you're drinking beer or corn-based alcohol you're doing some serious damage to the liver.

Adding more fruits and vegetables is important, but it's also important to eat strictly organic only to avoid herbicides, pesticides, GMO and etc. Also short term fasting could help take the load off of the liver, drink plenty of clean/pure water (reverse osmosis) and do not drink tap water. Drink water, eat fruits and veggies in the morning and eat some grassfed meats, pasture raised eggs.. eat anything that is in its natural form is the best bet.

The great thing about the liver is, it regenerates. YOU CAN regenerate the liver. I highly recommend this docu-series, you can buy it on stopfattyliver.com but you can watch it for FREE using the links below (this isn't the full series, but hey it's free!):

Episode 1: https://www.bitchute.com/video/VRNjVsQ7QWxE/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/pSSqJLeeHhDy/

Episode 2: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4RByWhnAzcYu/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/eLEA5uNFI4Ow/

Episode 3: https://www.bitchute.com/video/v9A45C1Pci9J/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/sfcuYmazvtiG/

Episode 4: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2TQOnuzo7ueO/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/KfqzKNQN6mgG/

Episode 5: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ugrV4t2y7tP8/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/lUss1hCGDZFl/

Episode 6: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/A7ayfZAoXZwj/

Episode 7: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ue2mEGQMyGHp/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/482ghzRu466Z/

Episode 8: https://www.bitchute.com/video/qBOKiycgLwX9/

Episode 9: https://www.bitchute.com/video/sJ7qypP8soWn/

https://medicaltruthpodcast.com/how-to-detox-from-dangerous-vaccines-interview-with-ana-maria-mihalcea-m-d/ Ana Maria Mihalcea , a chelation therapist, says that the lipid nano particles, heavy metals and fibers are now everywhere, even in the unvaccinated. The bioweapon is also sprayed in our skies. High doses of Vitamin C and chelation help.

Found on Makow's website (from a reader):

Reader--4 main things I noticed to detox from in the poison shot. (We have to perpetually detox to survive and stay human)

heavy metals                 - graphene razors, nano tech
fungus                           - cancer, nano tech
plastic                           - hydrogel/quantum dot, nano tech
biological abominations - hydra vulgaris hybrid creature

solutions

green tea, vitamin C, turmeric (avoid powdered crap it's full of lead)
borax, baking soda, ganja (eaten, tea or vaped around 250degree F.  Not smoked, smoking creates benzene toxins and wastes medicine), activated charcoal (burned toast), avoid sugar
cruciferous vegetables, ie -chlorella, kale, etc
prayer

Don't know if any of the above is useful. Just pasting it here "in case."