“Take a ball, poor water on it. Observe the effects”
So youre saying that because you cant see the effect of gravity between small objects it doesnt exist? What about large objects like the earth and moon? Scale is important to understand.
You think water finds its level when really water is attracted to the center of mass of the nearest largest object (the earth).
Haha. Water absolutely has properties that are only apparent at certain scales. Like a bead of water on a blade of grass or the surface that surrounds a bubble in a level (definitely not flat).
“Granted, that doesn't prove flat earth”
“Water is somewhat heavy, if gravity were keeping it stuck to a globe, how do waves form and lulls form? How do we so easily jump up from the surface”
So for gravity to exist, all other forces must cease to exist? You would expect a perfectly round sphere with no blemishes?
How about this test. A globe model would predict that the sun (and stars) would move 15 degrees every hour. Lets map it out. We all own a protractor, we can do this. A local sun moving over a disc would not do this.
Not just math. Simple logic and tests.
Name a test that you or I can do that proves flat earth?
“ that aircraft never hover in place waiting for their destinations to arrive beneath them.”
The planes are spinning too. Its not as if when they leave the earths surface all their momentum created from spin goes away.
Scale is the biggest misconception among flat earthers. Its SO big, until you get really far away, it seems flat. And all construction math works as if it is flat because the scale of building construction is too small to ever account for curvature.
“ he amount of gravity needed to make water [a heavy liquid] stick to it, at the same time allows much lighter things to fly around off the surface with ease, like birds/bugs/aircraft).”
Looks like we could study aerodynamics. i havent but I think I can explain it by flight is achieved by manipulating the air around it. But space ships dont have propellers because there is no air up there.
I appreciate the sentiment of not trusting the government. You have to ALSO think though. You cant just blindly believe the opposite of what the government says.
Flat earthers dont like to test their theories. I can come up with math checks and simple tests to support globe model. Flat earthers cant do the same. In that way they dont really fit in here. Theyre more like the sheep we see everyday but instead of believing everything the government says, they believe the opposite. That makes them only slightly more correct than the sheep overall.
Haha good point.
These questions answered I want.
I keep forgetting about the DNC hack.
So they killed Seth Rich for stealing emails and blamed Russia for the hack and tied to Trump. So are Russia and then Trump innocent bystanders from the Seth Rich murder coverup?
So, Matrix? Haha
Now were talking about a world where energy is abundant for the consumer. Energy is used for a lot of necessities and fun things. I think as it becomes more plentiful and cheaper, well be able to drive faster or power flying cars or do other things easier. It could still be currency but we could choose to spend our currency being warmer in the winter or cooler in the summer.
Like a generator connected to a bicycle?
Ok so AAs could be coins in this system and car batteries could be bills.
If we get to a point where something the size of a couple AAs could pay for groceries for the week, we will have arrived, right?
Im thinking small scale to start with until tech catches up. Start with farmers markets and garage sales or places where bartering might already be happening. Large purchases like a car or house would be difficult currently and maybe more easily done with oil.
The point is, the energy in your battery (and the battery itself) in your pocket does have value and is currently transportable. If i anticipate tech to get better and energy density, storage efficiency, and transfer efficiency to all improve. This could be a way to get away from fiat currency and have something that wouldnt be vulnerable to market crashes.
I dont exactly know what youre saying. You can sell solar panel energy and turbine energy and oil energy.
Are you saying small scale free energy? Like a little box that produces electrical energy to power your home and car?
Are we afraid they would flood the market with energy, making driving, heating, and growing your own food super cheap?
The fact that someone could use free energy to gain power has no relevance to energy as currency the way I see it because free energy could be sold for other currencies right now. The difference would be that you could walk around with something in your pocket with value that anyone of us could use without government control.
Yeah like a battery or cell phone charger.
Thats cool. Im hoping though for something you could hold in your hand like a battery, use to buy stuff at the farmers market or power a heater to keep your feet warm.
Ok thats cool, i dont understand bitcoin completely yet.
I do have an issue with the lack of intrinsic value still though. If shtf youre holding 1’s and 0’s instead of something you can do something with.
Im not sure I understand this. The free market would still exist, the farmer would trade the food for energy, and he couldnt charge a kWh that nobody could afford.
Once you have bitcoin though, it doesnt have any intrinsic value. It has value because more than one person says it has value.
I did mention storage and the tech is getting better all the time. Batteries in their current form are more like dollar bills. You wouldnt want to carry more than 20 on you at a time. But new battery technology for walking around cash or just other forms of potential energy could be used, either chemical, something similar to a water tower for long term storage.
What free energy tech? First to develop it would be rich, right? Win-win?
Bitcoin can be seized and cant be traded anonymously though, right?
Through foster care is tough but cheaper too.
When mating…merger?
Because the 3D modeling companies are in on it. ;). Haha