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DueProcessFan 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think this is from 3 weeks ago.

Trump just held a Ramadan dinner in the White House two days ago, by the way.

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aslan's comment below about a picture that's supposedly was of Oswald standing in front of the Texas School Book. Depository is probably the same thing Luna is talking about.

There's a photo in AP photographer took of the limousine right after the shooting and in the back you see school book depository. There was a guy there who a lot of people said was Oswald. This was looked into in the '60s and again in the '70s. It is not Oswald. It's Billy Lovelady who also worked in the school book depository

Lovelady identified himself as being in the picture and said he would have about 20 witnesses who could verify that. He also said he was 3 in shorter and 20 lb heavier than Oswald

Looking this up. I just found some on Twitter who suspects she's also talking about the same photo.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GnK-ve8W0AAcZO_?format=jpg&name=900x900

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here's the picture

https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.200787.html

The guy they think was Oswald was identified as Billy lovelady. Lovelady himself identifies himself as the man in the picture. He was another employee of the Texas school book depository.

You could also see that this is not a very clear picture. He's way in the background.

This is probably precisely what Luna is talking about. Because when the house special committee on assassinations looked at this in the '70s, they examined this photo and other films.

If Oswald was standing with a bunch of other school book depository workers at the time of the, then he has an alibi. None of his co-workers said they were with him at the time of the shooting. Some saw him afterwards

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no leaker here. This is not a case of deliberately leaking to the reporter. And it seems you believe Wong to be the person who added Goldberg

His boss said this was not a staffer who did this and took full responsibility for setting up the group.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ellen Markham absolutely testified the commission. She also picked Oswald out of a lineup. Two women who saw Oswald running away from them picked him out of a lineup and pointed cops to where the shells were. Two employees of a car lot saw Oswald come pass them holding a gun and picked him out of a lineup.

Why? How did they know he was wanted for anything? Don't people usually go into theaters? There was no description of Oswald put out at that time.

Because shortly after the shooting of JD Tippet, the neighborhood was flooded with cop cars with police sirens wailing.

As police cars were coming down the street Oswald ducked into a shoe store. The clerk felt he was acting nervous and suspicious. Like he was not curious about the sirens outside more like he was turning his back, more like he was turning his back to the street so that nobody would see him. Clerk thought this was weird and ended up following him. The clerk saw him go into the Texas movie theater. And asked the ticket girl if that guy had just bought a ticket. She said she was looking down the street where the cop cars had gone and didn't see him and he didn't buy a ticket. That's when they decided to call the police. Because perhaps this guy acting like he was avoiding the cops as the guy the cops were looking for. Many witnesses in the theater saw Oswald attack the cops and take out his gun.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why is better supported with evidence than the dozens of alternative theories that fall apart when you look at them?

Why are the other theories wasting your time? Why are they unsupported by the evidence??

I remember seeing the JFK movie. But when you look into it, so much of it is full on nonsense.

I eventually came around to the idea but if this was a regular murder case. The jury would be out 2 hours before they convicted him. The evidence against him. Is overwhelming

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Have you ever seen the other films of that day. Here's the Nix film.

https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/nix-home-movie-2/

It's going to end being some guy 50 yards from the camera that somebody claimed looked like him. Just like people built a complicated theory around some out of focus tree leaves.

Oswald's alibi was that he was at lunch inside the building. He never claimed to be qhere Luna is saying the film shows him out. Just that alone means this is highly likely to be nothing

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oswald was supposed to be moved to the county jail an hour earlier.

5 minutes before the shooting Ruby was in the Western Union office waiting to send a money order.

If they hadn't had delays you wouldn't even have a chance to get Oswald.

Ruby was clearly a hothead. And folks who knew said he practically having a breakdown in those couple of days.

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Remember, Oswald never claimed to be by the motorcade

He said he was in the first floor watch room getting lunch. And then he went to the second floor and got a Coke from the machine and came back down.

He also claimed to go outside and talk to people who work at the book depository. Two two people who work at the book depository. Both of them say he never talked to them at that time.

So he never gave the alibi of..I was on the street by the motorcade watching the motorcade.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

You miss my point about the money and the bus.

So you're claim is they had this big world altering conspiracy and the getaway plan involved waiting for a city bus

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Witnesses saw Oswald shoot the cop.

Witnesses saw him fleeing the shooting.

Witnesses saw him go into the Texas theater and called the cops.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Zapruder used color reversal film. That is film that MAKES a positive print on the original in camera reels. I've worked with Colorado reversal film a long time ago. I have no idea how you would doctor that with today's technology. Digital stuff is easy to touch. But tiny little images in a physical chemical medium you have to mess with. I don't know how you do it

Years later the original was examined by an expert is that specific film stock. He examined not just the image but multiple artifacts of the film that appear outside the image. He examined the grain patterns and light density of the exposed film. There were no alterations.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why did he shoot a cop before going to the theater?

If he was working with others why was he so broke all the time.

His escape plan was a city bus?

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

There were a LOT of people taking pictures in Dealey Plaza. It wasn't just Zapruder. People have poured over those pictures for decades.

The idea with have some new primary evidence from Dealey Plaza that shows something not in any other picture or footage is very, very remote

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DueProcessFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is almost assuredly nonsense. Oswald was in the school book depository very soon after the shooting. Coworkers were watching the motorcade from the street. How would he get past them and back into the building?

If Oswald had an alibi of being in the street why didn't he say that? That's Not what he told the cops.

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Smart people do dumb things all the time, particularly when you have multiple things on your mind.

Sometimes those dumb things are small. Sometimes they have a very big impact.

I'm not sure what you're referring to with the wife

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DueProcessFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

I still think the Vice president has enough pull to demand an investigation and dig through the database at Signal. Especially if national security has possibly been placed at risk now or in the past.

Any investigation would only involve the folks in the meeting. It would not involve all of Signal users

I think it has been determined that the guilty party was a Chinese employee working at Signal that place the Atlantic reporter in the meeting.

This is false.
The Chinese employee works for Trump. He is on the National Security Council. His position is Deputy National Security Advisor

AND

there is zero evidence he did this.

His boss Mike Waltz said it was not a staffer who did this. He took full responsibility.

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