They knew all the shady crap that was going on about the jabs from the beginning. The mere fact that it was developed in 6 months, with 0 testing for long term effects, should have been a dead giveaway that it had not been proved safe. Combine that with the fact that VAERS events were being reported immediately after deployment of the jab, and the fact that anyone under 30 in even decent physical condition had no need to take the vaccine anyway.
Also, there were people screaming from the rooftops from the beginning that the dangers of covid were overstated and the dangers of the jabs understated. Were we silenced? Yes. Did people irl ignore our warnings? Also yes.
Any parent who gave their kid the death jab has no excuse. I hope they can find a way to live with themselves, and figure out what they’re going to say when they give an account to God.
Alright, lets look through Matthew 24.
Verses 1-2 obviously refer to the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D., so that part has already been fulfilled. Likewise, verse 4-9 describe the current church age quite well. However, I will note again that the tribulations and afflictions mentioned here are nothing compared the Tribulation, which is uniquely described as the Wrath of God and the time of Jacob's Trouble.
This fact is important as we see that Christ shifts to talk about the abomination of desolation in verses 15-28. The abomination of desolation is also mentioned in Daniel 8:9-11, 13-14, 23-26, and Daniel 11:31. These passages are stated to take place during "the latter indignation", another name for the Tribulation. The Abomination of Desolation specifically occurs during the latter half of this 7 year period. Here's an article that breaks down Daniel, specifically rebutting the theory that Antiochus IV already fulfilled Daniel:
https://www.barrysetterfield.org/Daniel%208/Daniel8.html
Matthew 24:17 talks about the need to flee, because the Abomination of Desolation basically consists of the Antichrist suddenly betraying the agreement that he set up with Israel and invading. Jesus also notes that they should pray that the flight not take place on the sabbath, something that only applies to Jews as Christians don't observe the sabbath. Therefore verse 15-28 are specifically for the nation of Israel. Verse 21 states "for then there shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be". This imo rules out most of the lesser tribulations and trials that Christians and Jews alike have experienced in the past 2,000 years, though arguably the Holocaust may approximate some of the horrors of the real Tribulation. Lastly, verse 22 says that if those days weren't cut short, no flesh would survive. This again rules out the events of the past 2,000 years, as there are 8 billion people and millions of Jews left on the planet. The numerous catastrophes of Revelation are much better candidates for plausibly wiping out the human population were they allowed to continue for more than 7 years.
Unfortunately, your pastor seems to be incorrect that the Tribulation has been going on for 2,000 years. While I understand the confusion, as both Christians and Jews have faced fierce persecution throughout history, the scriptural evidence doesn't seem to support it. When Daniel and Revelation are read together, it's extremely difficult to come away with anything else than a specific 7 year period:
https://www.gotquestions.org/tribulation.html
For more reading on arguments for a pre Trib Rapture and a general chronology of the events of the Tribulation, check out these links as well (this guy backs up his arguments with lots of Scripture and sound reasoning):
https://www.barrysetterfield.org/Pre-Tribulation_Rapture.html
https://www.barrysetterfield.org/Tribulation_Events_Timeline.html
I'm glad you're interested in this subject and willing dive deeply into what the Bible says regarding the end times. I hope you find these resources helpful in your studies.
You've pretty much got it, except that the Mark of the Beast doesn't get implemented until after the Rapture, and those who take it have no chance at salvation. It's strongly correlated with conscious worship of the Antichrist, so it's not like those who take the Mark don't know what they're doing. See Revelation 14:9-11.
Anyone who doesn't take the Mark and survives the Tribulation (presumably) gets to live into the Millenium, although at some point they'll have to make the same decision to accept Christ as Lord just like we do now.
If it’s a mechanical problem, I.e., my leg is broken and I need someone to set it and give me a physical therapy program, then I’ll go to an urgent care center for that. And obviously I’ll still use an optometrist and a dentist.
Everything else? Nah, I’m good. Don’t need a “wellness checkup”. They take some measurements, tell you you’re fine, then push a cocktail of vaccines on you. Haven’t set foot in a hospital since 2019, and I intend to keep it that way.
Firmament does not equal heaven.
Genesis 1 uses “firmament” and “firmament of the heavens”; two different phrases with two different meanings.
The Hebrew word rendered “firmament” is “raqia” a root word which means “to hammer or beat out with a hammer on an anvil”. What do you hammer out on an anvil? Metal, something both solid and dense. Firmament is used on its own to describe the action of days 2 and 3 of creation, where the firmament divides the waters. “Firmament of the heavens” used during the rest of the week to describe alternatively where the stars are created and the domain where birds fly. The word firmament by itself is not used to describe the atmosphere or outer space.
Combining this information with scientific data, the logical conclusion is the firmament is the solid crust of the earth, which used to have water both above and below. The firmament of the heavens then describes the atmosphere or outer space depending on context.
When the earth is stated to have foundations that don’t move, it’s referring to the fact that the crust had pillars that pushed through the subterranean water into the mantle, anchoring the crust to the mantle so it wouldn’t float around like a giant unstable water bed. The earth being “immovable” doesn’t refer to its lack of motion relative to other objects in outer space, it refers to Earth’s relative stability; the fact that it’s not going to randomly fall apart or blow up.
If the heliocentric model is simpler and more elegant than the geocentric model, then Occam’s Razor suggests we should use the simpler model unless there’s a compelling reason otherwise.
We do know the distances to the other planets and stars. We use radar echo to figure out how far away the planets are (because we know the current speed of light) and we can measure stellar distances through parallax. Planetary mass, orbital velocity, and distance from the sun can also be calculated by tracking their motion across the sky and applying Keppler’s laws. Space probe data also helps confirm.
Of course it’s impossible to prove the earths motion using the earth’s reference frame. Everything is stationary from its own reference frame. That’s the basic premise of relative motion. Every frame of reference must be considered, not just Earth’s own reference.
The geocentric model doesn’t work, it required epicycles and endless modifications to those epicycles to model the movement of the other planets. The heliocentric model better and more accurately models planetary motion using orbital mechanics. Copernicus and Galileo started poking holes in the geocentric model centuries ago. It was the Catholics who had erroneous philosophical reasons for wanting the earth to be the center of creation.
Which claims specifically haven’t been proven?
What the church says is not always the same thing as what the Bible says, unfortunately.
Magellan would have been referring to the Roman Catholic Church, which had drastically veered away from the Bible at this point. On the scientific front, they stubbornly held to Aristotle as gospel truth even when evidence suggested otherwise.
We know they lied about the jab. We caught them red handed changing the definition of vaccines, and their claims that the jab protects against Covid have been demonstrated to be false. Every attempt to prove that the earth is flat, on the other hand, has fallen flat on its face.
Also, we know that there was a motive to lie about covid and the jabs; Big Pharma made billions. What benefit is gained from lying about the shape of the earth?
And no, my final argument is not invalid. If you want to propose an alternate explanation for the nature of the universe, the onus is on you to show that your proposal coincides with reality. The theory that best explains the available evidence wins until new evidence is discovered. Screaming that NASA was founded by Freemasons isn’t a good counter argument.
No, I am not. I am a Young Earth Creationist. Evolution is a theory without a mechanism, and the evidence against it grows stronger every day. If you want to learn more, the first half of this free online book outlines the problems with evolution and shows how the evidence points toward creation:
There’s a difference between Big Science and actual scientific evidence. Scientific evidence and reason point both to the earth being a sphere and to the Covid “vaccines” being death jabs.
My problem with flat earthers is not that they inherently distrust institutions, it’s that their distrust is the only argument they have. If you want to propose an alternative model for how the world works, it has to be based in observational data and backed by reason. Every single flat earth argument and model falls apart under scrutiny. The evidence for the death jabs remains solid and plausible under scrutiny.
NASA isn’t right just because they’re right; they’re right because no one has proposed a better model that better explains the data.
The Bible doesn’t say the earth is a dome either. The firmament being a solid canopy is a modern invention.
Where the Bible is silent, reason and scientific evidence must be used, and all of it points to a spherical earth. The best explanation for the firmament, then, is that it is the solid crust of the earth. This crust used to be connected all the way around the earth and had an ocean of water trapped underneath it. Genesis records that God called the firmament “heaven” because Earth was supposed to be heaven, the place where God dwelled with men. And one day it will be that way again.
During the Flood, this crust ruptured, allowing the “fountains of the deep” to break out and cover the earth in water.
But muh “disinfo is necessary!”
I’ve literally hear people use that argument to say that Q didn’t really mean the earth was round. Cracks me up every time.
The Bible doesn’t say the earth is flat, despite multiple attempts to twist its words to fit flat earth theory.
I’ve seen no indication that illegals are being checked for their vaccine status. Highly possible that many of them are unjabbed. Why would the Uniparty want to replace Americans dropping dead with illegals who are going to drop dead themselves?
With how many illegals are flooding in, I wouldn’t count on real estate going down. For every 1 person who dies from the jab, 10 more illegals or Muslims will take their place. And both of those groups breed like rabbits.
The Rapture is the same as the resurrection, but not the same as the Second Coming of Christ. In the Rapture, we go to meet Christ in the air, Christ doesn’t come down to earth until the end of the Tribulation. That is the Second Coming.
It is true that Christians won’t escape tribulation in this world, but The Tribulation is a different Beast entirely (pun intended). It is described in the OT as the Day of God’s Wrath and the time of Jacob’s Trouble. In the Tribulation, God will accomplish two things: pouring out His wrath on a wicked world, and drawing Israel back to Himself. The church, as the bride of Christ, has no need to go through the wrath of God since Christ has already endured that for us. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb will take place during the Tribulation. To complete the marriage analogy, it would be somewhat weird for the groom to make his bride suffer his wrath before wedding her.
More verses suggesting a pre Trib Rapture:
Luke 21:35-36 Matthew 24:36-51 1 Thessalonians 1:10 2 Thessalonians 1:6-8 Revelation 3:10
See also the example of Lot; God brought Lot out before destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, as Abraham correctly pointed out that God will not destroy the righteous with the wicked.
Yes, Ezekiel and Isaiah 17 iirc. Damascus gets destroyed, Russia and/or Iran retaliate. God miraculously thwarts their counter attack, Rapture happens simultaneously. Then the Antichrist (possibly someone from Turkey) signs a covenant with Israel so that the Temple can be rebuilt, kicking off the Tribulation.
The Great Awakening isn’t mentioned in biblical prophecies, which leaves two options for how it fits with the end times:
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The Great Awakening doesn’t happen (or is limited in scope), resulting in the world getting worse before the Rapture.
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The GA does happen, and we have a few decades (a century or two at best) of peace before the world does a repeat of 2020 and fully commits to the Beast’s system.
Either way, act as if the Rapture and Tribulation are imminent. Watch happenings in Israel, especially if war breaks out between Israel and Syria (check out prophecies regarding Damascus).
Nope, I just double checked.
Dec 8, 2017
Anon: “I have a question: the 10 days, darkness… when?”
Q: “Shutdown”
Dec 22, 2017
Anon: “No shutdown, it seems”
Q: “Define shutdown. Was ATL shutdown? Will NK be shutdown? Who controls NK? Leverage? …”
Q confirms it was about ATL and ties whatever happened there to NK.
Source: Qanon . Pub
“10 days. Darnkess” is from a Q post in Nov. 2017, about a month before the drops that I’m talking about, which spell darkness correctly.
10 days of darkness 10 days after darkness 10 days until darkness 10 days before darkness
There’s a lot of prepositions that can be used to link those phrases, each with vastly different meanings. That’s why you shouldn’t put words in Q’s mouth, especially when he himself clarified what he meant after the fact.
Dec 7, 2017: part of Q’s post says “10 days. Darkness”. On the same day a fire drill is performed at ATL airport
Dec 17, 2017: actual fire breaks out at ATL, causing the power at the airport to go out for 11 hours.
Dec 18, 2017: Q clarifies that yesterday’s events was the fulfillment of the Dec 7 post, and implies that the Amtrak derailment on the 18th was DS retaliation for whatever happened in ATL.
Everything I just said is verifiable by going to q alerts . app and reading the drops over this time period.
My original point stands: anyone telling you that 10 days of darkness is a future event has not read the drops and doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
LaMDA is a Google chatbot. Just keep that in mind whenever it answers questions in a way that confirms your biases.