by BQnita
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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm happy it worked out for you awesomely, first and foremost. I would have probably demanded the same given that situation. But could you imagine if that problem progressed and progressed and then your child wasn't viable (which is what I'm talking about) and there was no option but to let it die over a painful amount of time inside your wife? It's just a dangerous precedent to set so black and white. I don't want babies to be murdered (yes, I will say that) but I also don't want to have the law stop what is morally right and necessary in extremely hard situations.

by BQnita
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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did someone say abortion was the best option? That she was not viable? Or are you just getting your story out? If the later, not really applicable.

by BQnita
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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not the same and you know it. Happy she's been able to heal through technology and medicine.

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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's just gross. Healthy young mothers miscarry constantly.

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skeletorcares 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's a pretty easy diagnosis, yes. It's not an easy decision. But nor is letting a baby suffer then die in you. But it is necessary. History and science say the baby will not "heal itself."

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skeletorcares 4 points ago +4 / -0

You can't just extract an 8 week old. This situation happens all the time. Future miscarriages are spotted and, scary word coming, aborted. Example, the baby doesn't have a functioning heart (can't be identified until 6-8 weeks). It saves the baby from suffering, it saves the mom from suffering, it saves everyone from suffering. The sooner it happens the easier it is for everyone. The baby is going to die, it's a matter of how much you're willing to let it suffer. This law ensures it WILL suffer. If you're cool with that seems counterintuitive, but OK, that's your prerogative.

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skeletorcares 4 points ago +5 / -1

You can't just place a dying baby in incubation, especially one before 20~22 weeks. It would still die, just more painfully. Alright, you sound really medically inexperienced, so I'll leave you to your beliefs. Hope this doesn't affect someone you know negatively. Good luck.

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skeletorcares 5 points ago +6 / -1

What? "Terminating the pregnancy" is abortion, which would also be illegal here. I don't think you read what I said. The baby is dying, you know it is dying, the doctor knows it is dying, the baby might even know it's dying. With this law it's required to stay in there until it does in my scenario. It happens quite a bit.

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skeletorcares 3 points ago +8 / -5

This is not a huge win. Could you imagine you have a baby dying inside of you, not being viable, and being required to have it stay in there until it dies? This is not covered by the emergency clause. It just growing and festering, potentially to the point of killing you? Abortion is not a good thing, but sometimes it's necessary. This is way too far. This is just one situation that would be terrible, there are dozens of others. I don't think late term, "for fun" abortions are ok, but this is just too far.

The bill: https://legiscan.com/OK/text/HB4327/2022

by BQnita
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skeletorcares 2 points ago +2 / -0

Swinging hammer pepe's eyes are a little glossy, can probably blame him.

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skeletorcares 3 points ago +3 / -0

A classic joke in horse racing. He didn't say it though, and denies he was invited to the White House.

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skeletorcares 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't forget the unions. They push for less work, less accountability, more cost.

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skeletorcares 48 points ago +48 / -0

Remember, Kiev is in the middle of a real war right now with one of the strongest militaries on the planet. The fear on all their faces is palpable.

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skeletorcares 2 points ago +2 / -0

They'd probably actually be considered Rosenbergs.

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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everytime a teacher's union speaks to me it sounds like Stalone's Judge Dredd saying "I AM THE LAW!"

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skeletorcares 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting. Hadn't heard that one. I just wish that lady he held hostage was alive during his election.

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skeletorcares 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's never happening. If they wanted it, it'd be done or at least countered. They don't want it.

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skeletorcares 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think the other graph is more telling, the proportion of tests. 26.8% of the total tests, only 16.7% of the total positives.

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