Then you are doing exactly what the DS wants you to do. Ukraine exposes all their lies along with Fake News MSM. It would benefit you to multitask. Tunnel vision blinds you to everything around you.
But but the Russians are suffering HUGH loses, The crafty Ukrainians are out smarting the Russians, the new weapons from the west will teach the stupid Russians a thing or two..... so how can the be encircling a city..... ITS a TRAP!!!!!
Oh yeah, and have the whoreporate media explain with all the missiles they sent Ukraine is using drones ? And if you noticed Ukraines air superiority was so good they sent helos in to save some top brass. Russia let them in to rescue them but then punched their tickets when they left. What air superiority. This place is not being reinforced with ammo and food so time is on Russia's side. And it minimizes casualties. Starve them into submission same agenda the Globalist Puppet Masters are using.
After months of an unsuccessful Ukrainian counteroffensive, where Kiev managed to conquer one quarter of one percent of the territory under Russian control, the tables now have turned.
With fierce assaults, non-stop shelling and combat aircraft work, starting on October 9th, Russian forces have been carrying out a sustained attack of their own.
Fighting intensified in multiple sectors of the 1,000-km-long (600-mile) front, but the world’s attention right now is centered in the siege on Avdiivka, ‘the key to Donetsk’.
It’s the seventh straight day of assaults in Russia’s biggest push since last spring, attempting to create a ‘cauldron’ around the Ukrainian defenders in the ‘industrial heartland of Donbas’.
I had the thought last night that we should see something from Russia - Ukraine that is done to divide the attention that the deep state is trying turn to the Israel - Palestine situation, and Iran. In other words, now that the deep state wants to move on from Ukraine where public opinion is turning, Russia is not going to let them off the hook.
Avdiivka has not gone well for the Russians. They tried a surprise attack to encircle the city. If you look at Avdiivka, Russia is occupying land both above and below it. The northern advance gaining a few hundreds meters the first day and the southern attack failed almost entirely. Last week they were trying 60 attacks a day, now they are trying 15 per day.
Analysts have noted that a few days ago, Russian officials saying they were conducting "active combat operations," not Putin himself, changed it to "active defense operations."
I don't know why you're getting downvoted negative, unless people just aren't following what's happening in Ukraine. I know it's difficult. I have to follow multiple Telegram sources, so it's very forgivable.
First, re: sources.
TGP is not a source. Ever. It is a clickbait leech site that takes other people's work and mainly a bunch of Tweets and tries to pass it off as news while they run you through a circle jerk of their own links if God forbid you ever want to track down original source information. It is a cancerous, evil website.
ISW (Institute for the Study of War) is a think tank populated by retired military brass and Neocons. They have extremely good insider access to raw data and the Pentagon's interpretation/analysis of it. But their own bias is globalist and pro-interventionist, and they frequently toe the pro-war anytime anywhere line a bit like Lindsay Graham. It's worth listening to their facts, but do your own thinking about how to interpret them.
Sources I use: Douglas MacGregor, Scott Ritter publishes at consortiumnews.com, YT summaries (10-20 min daily videos: Military Summary (Dima, a Belorussian), Weeb Union, Telegram (рыбарь, Intel Slava Z, Intel Republic, Slavyangrad). I'm including the two YT sources because both do an excellent job of watching both Ukr and Rus social media far more than I ever could and are committed to neutral presentation of facts.
Second, you're absolutely right on the situation at Avdiivka.
Due to its geographical location on several supply lines, it has become a major defensive point seen as a key Ukrainian foothold in Donbas (one of the 4 breakaway regions now annexed by Russia). Russia intends to consolidate it because it is key to defending the land bridge from Russia to Crimea. It's not negotiable for them.
Ukraine knows this and after Bakhmut/Artemovsk fell to Wagner, they turned Avdiivka into a fortress: trenches, pre-formed concrete pill boxes, tunnels, etc. It's going to be every bit as ugly to clear as Mariupol's Azov Steel factory and Bakhmut were.
Russia has brought in the reintegrated Wagner veterans to lead their infantry assaults and are pairing them with tanks, brand new T-90s. They're well-supplied, but they're getting ripped up by accurate long-range artillery fire, which is why you're hearing about those casualty numbers.
You have to remember that this fight is playing out under 24/7 high-res satellite and drone surveillance from both sides. Nothing moves on that battlefield without both sides being acutely aware of it and using that data in a coordinated way to target their artillery.
This is defender's war, which is why, thus far, Russia has been winning decisively. When they go on the offensive, Ukraine gets to play defense. They get to use all of those guerrilla tactics the NATO boys have been teaching them. It's what Ukraine should have done from the start, honestly.
What I've noticed is the continued absence of air power. Russia still hesitates to put much more than a few choppers up opportunistically to hunt tanks because of the SAM systems. Despite all of the missile strikes on radar and mobile SAM systems, Ukraine's still got enough to credibly threaten Russian air power. We're not even seeing their flagship stealth SU-57. They're fielding their 4th gen planes when they drop their FAB and various air-launched cruise missiles.
What do I expect?
Russia's going to have to flatten the city. There's no other choice. They've cauldroned the troops, surrounded the city and can attack from 3 sides. They've got fire control (artillery range) over their supply lifeline to the west. So, this is effectively a siege and the question will be whether they can resupply via tunnels or something. But yeah, expect this to be slow, methodical, and bloody. Russia's going to make the rubble bounce like a rave.
Dude, I'm sorry, but you cited the Gateway Pundit. I'm not sure anyone who works there knows that Russia has tried to take this city since last year
They've tried multiple times to encircle the city this year, going back to March.
They are running into the same problems the Ukrainians are running into elsewhere. When the defensive force is well prepared, you need a LOT of firepower to make gains. A Russian Military blogger was saying today unless they can muster 5x or 10x offensive power, they shouldn't attack.
A BTR-50 APC was destroyed near Avdiivka. Search that on twitter to see why that's significant.
Khe sanh was well fortified also. Had Charlie stayed longer it would have been LBJ's Dien Bin Phu . I will not hold your youth against against you. Time is on Russias side.
Russia has yet to take Avdiivka. Things slowed down last week, but in the past couple of days they making a new push on Avdiivka.
But more importantly, you said two things. You accused me of DS talking points and you said the tables have turned in Ukraine.
I think we can use this as a reality check. Can we try to figure out what is happening vs, say what we what to happen. We can use this as a check. We can see what happens with these two questions
Will Russia have Avdiivka by Jan 1?
If they take Avdiivka, at what cost?
My theory is the Avdiivka is a political rather that a strategic objective. They are trying to take it to have a big "win" before the winter slows things down.
If you were doing an AAR on Avdiivka so far what could you say?
What went well for Russia is they basically launched a sneak attack. They were able to mass a lot of men and equipment and take Ukraine by surprise about 10 days ago.
What didn't go well is they seemed to have lost a lot of men and equipment without much gain in territory. For example Valerii Zaluzhnyi the CIC of Urkanian forces supposedly was in Avdiivika in the past two days to meet with the commanders there. There's video of him walking around.
Another development in Ukraine is the arrival of long distance ATACMS missiles from the US.
Ukraine used them airfields in Berdyansk and Luhansk and hit a large number of helicopters.
This is significant, because Russia is going to have to move their airfields and other targets further from the front.
Ukraine is a dead horse and why they diverted to plan B. Amazing we have two AC Carriers like sitting ducks in a barrel at the time Iran can receive hypersonic missiles. What could possibly go wrong there ?
This is the problem with crossing disinfo streams. Need to silo them to the target audience so they can't be cross referenced for exclusionary conclusions.
I don't know if you trust ISW, but there maps are geolocated and have been accurate over the course of the war. Plus they link to their primary sources
Russian is gaining 10 meters a day he says and suffering heavy losses, and he asks even if they take the town after a while, can this considering success.
Putin not using the word counteroffensive, but instead active defense I also think is telling. I agree that this seems to be managing expectations
Ukraine? Where's Ukraine? I'm watching the Gaza siege.
Oh don't worry they'll resurface on the front pages when its time for our Govt to send them another $40 Billion.
Then you are doing exactly what the DS wants you to do. Ukraine exposes all their lies along with Fake News MSM. It would benefit you to multitask. Tunnel vision blinds you to everything around you.
But but the Russians are suffering HUGH loses, The crafty Ukrainians are out smarting the Russians, the new weapons from the west will teach the stupid Russians a thing or two..... so how can the be encircling a city..... ITS a TRAP!!!!!
Oh yeah, and have the whoreporate media explain with all the missiles they sent Ukraine is using drones ? And if you noticed Ukraines air superiority was so good they sent helos in to save some top brass. Russia let them in to rescue them but then punched their tickets when they left. What air superiority. This place is not being reinforced with ammo and food so time is on Russia's side. And it minimizes casualties. Starve them into submission same agenda the Globalist Puppet Masters are using.
After months of an unsuccessful Ukrainian counteroffensive, where Kiev managed to conquer one quarter of one percent of the territory under Russian control, the tables now have turned.
With fierce assaults, non-stop shelling and combat aircraft work, starting on October 9th, Russian forces have been carrying out a sustained attack of their own.
Fighting intensified in multiple sectors of the 1,000-km-long (600-mile) front, but the world’s attention right now is centered in the siege on Avdiivka, ‘the key to Donetsk’.
It’s the seventh straight day of assaults in Russia’s biggest push since last spring, attempting to create a ‘cauldron’ around the Ukrainian defenders in the ‘industrial heartland of Donbas’.
What counter offensive ?
I’m gonna role over laughing if Netanyahu comes out to speak in army green.
With a giant iron cross logo on it....
Appears Netanyahu is going to be exposed to the world soon. The light is on him now. And their past has a way of biting them hard where the sit.
Send ! More !! Money!!!!!!
They are so broke they can not even pay attention.
I had the thought last night that we should see something from Russia - Ukraine that is done to divide the attention that the deep state is trying turn to the Israel - Palestine situation, and Iran. In other words, now that the deep state wants to move on from Ukraine where public opinion is turning, Russia is not going to let them off the hook.
I agree, and why I do not allow Whoreporate MSM and the Pantygone get away with it. So I keep sending them reminders.
Gateway Pundit seems behind the news in Avdiivka.
Avdiivka has not gone well for the Russians. They tried a surprise attack to encircle the city. If you look at Avdiivka, Russia is occupying land both above and below it. The northern advance gaining a few hundreds meters the first day and the southern attack failed almost entirely. Last week they were trying 60 attacks a day, now they are trying 15 per day.
Analysts have noted that a few days ago, Russian officials saying they were conducting "active combat operations," not Putin himself, changed it to "active defense operations."
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1713710394206724600/photo/1
So Russia had made small gains at a very high cost.
On Oct 13, Russia was estimated to have lost 1,000 troops 25 tanks 50 armored personnel carriers 44 artillery systems 33 fuel vehicles.
One reason for this is supposedly Urkaine blew up a crucial bride used for supplies 30 KM behind Russian lines.
It's possible Russia is going to regroup and eventually take Avdiivka, but these are some of the worst Russian losses in the whole war.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted negative, unless people just aren't following what's happening in Ukraine. I know it's difficult. I have to follow multiple Telegram sources, so it's very forgivable.
First, re: sources.
Second, you're absolutely right on the situation at Avdiivka.
What do I expect?
Russia's going to have to flatten the city. There's no other choice. They've cauldroned the troops, surrounded the city and can attack from 3 sides. They've got fire control (artillery range) over their supply lifeline to the west. So, this is effectively a siege and the question will be whether they can resupply via tunnels or something. But yeah, expect this to be slow, methodical, and bloody. Russia's going to make the rubble bounce like a rave.
Tell the farm they need better DS BS then this.
Dude, I'm sorry, but you cited the Gateway Pundit. I'm not sure anyone who works there knows that Russia has tried to take this city since last year
They've tried multiple times to encircle the city this year, going back to March.
They are running into the same problems the Ukrainians are running into elsewhere. When the defensive force is well prepared, you need a LOT of firepower to make gains. A Russian Military blogger was saying today unless they can muster 5x or 10x offensive power, they shouldn't attack.
A BTR-50 APC was destroyed near Avdiivka. Search that on twitter to see why that's significant.
Khe sanh was well fortified also. Had Charlie stayed longer it would have been LBJ's Dien Bin Phu . I will not hold your youth against against you. Time is on Russias side.
Russia has yet to take Avdiivka. Things slowed down last week, but in the past couple of days they making a new push on Avdiivka.
But more importantly, you said two things. You accused me of DS talking points and you said the tables have turned in Ukraine.
I think we can use this as a reality check. Can we try to figure out what is happening vs, say what we what to happen. We can use this as a check. We can see what happens with these two questions
Will Russia have Avdiivka by Jan 1?
If they take Avdiivka, at what cost?
My theory is the Avdiivka is a political rather that a strategic objective. They are trying to take it to have a big "win" before the winter slows things down.
If you were doing an AAR on Avdiivka so far what could you say?
What went well for Russia is they basically launched a sneak attack. They were able to mass a lot of men and equipment and take Ukraine by surprise about 10 days ago.
What didn't go well is they seemed to have lost a lot of men and equipment without much gain in territory. For example Valerii Zaluzhnyi the CIC of Urkanian forces supposedly was in Avdiivika in the past two days to meet with the commanders there. There's video of him walking around.
Another development in Ukraine is the arrival of long distance ATACMS missiles from the US.
Ukraine used them airfields in Berdyansk and Luhansk and hit a large number of helicopters.
This is significant, because Russia is going to have to move their airfields and other targets further from the front.
Ukraine is a dead horse and why they diverted to plan B. Amazing we have two AC Carriers like sitting ducks in a barrel at the time Iran can receive hypersonic missiles. What could possibly go wrong there ?
I'll file this with all the other "Guyz Russia is akchually losing" disinfo that has been propagated for the past 18 months.
you should read this comment as well.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17rSjJal6H/x/c/4Tz049hTMHR
They sure know how to drag things out. This conflict over small backwater territories will soon have lasted as long as half a world war.
Not sure how accurate this is. Any cooberative sources fren?
https://twitter.com/RussianPropX/status/1713712275448881565
Reliable sauces corroborating?
This is the problem with crossing disinfo streams. Need to silo them to the target audience so they can't be cross referenced for exclusionary conclusions.
Correct.
#RussiaIsLosing #RussiaIsCollapsing ????
Very credible sauce. 🙄
I don't know if you trust ISW, but there maps are geolocated and have been accurate over the course of the war. Plus they link to their primary sources
In their latest report they point this assessment by a Russian military blogger https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8anr-qX0AE7vmN?format=jpg&name=large
Russian is gaining 10 meters a day he says and suffering heavy losses, and he asks even if they take the town after a while, can this considering success.
Putin not using the word counteroffensive, but instead active defense I also think is telling. I agree that this seems to be managing expectations
https://x.com/UKikaski/status/1713484368469950869?s=20
Both Ukraine and Russia are preparing for winter. Trying to make gains before everything slows down and each side builds reinforcements.