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Let's take a moment to frame the idea here.

The Frame: DJT & Xi Cooperation

One, we know that China under Xi has had a war going with Soros for a long while now.

Two, there is reasonable room to speculate that DJT, Putin and Xi are all cooperating to destroy the International Globalist Cabal and their banker controllers, etc.

Three, Trump says he gets along very well with XI, and they appear to have a very good relationship.

So, why would Trump simply go with the "China did this and China did that" angle in his address on Thursday?


One Scenario: Good Twin vs Evil Twin

The Good Twin - Evil Twin idea is that in each nation, there are corrupt, Cabal elements (such as a 'deep state') that have actively been pursuing the agenda of evil that leads to tyranny, control and enslavement of the people, while there is also forces of good, working in each nation, to advance and pursue an agenda of goodness, one that leads to freedom, individual and national sovereignty, and prosperity for the people.

So, what if China itself has had a good twin / evil twin conflict going on for a long time?

It would be very different in the dynamic than the US, where the evil twin (Deep State & Cabal) have been infiltrating for a long time, vs China, where the state itself was set up by the evil twin aka the Chinese Communist Party, and where any overthrow of that regime would require a form of 'infiltration' by the people wanting to do that.

The scenario I'm looking at here, then, In Short:

USA: Established by good, but then subjected to evil forces seeking to infiltrate and destroy

CCP China: Established by evil, but then, over time, good forces seeking to reform and liberate the country from that evil

But, if this was true, and Xi is a good guy and/or in cooperation with DJT, how can we explain all the evil that goes on inside China and outside?


The Moral Dilemma of the War of Evil Twin vs Good Twin

One of the issues that is frequently raised here and which (obviously) concerns a number of patriotic anons is the moral question:

if "Patriots are in Control" then how can we justify all the damage and hurt that the nation directly suffered 2021-2024? The Covid thing, the illegals influx, the thousands of continued evil practices by Big Pharma and the Dems, etc? The Rinos?

Defining "In Control"

It's a tough question, but to my mind, this hinges on how one interprets "Patriots in Control" as offered to us by Q. To cut things short, my interpretation has consistently been that this narrative from Q refers control similar to the level of control that the upper hand has in a game of chess, for example. At Game Theory level of control.

In the Chess game, the game is not over until the losing side concedes. Until that point, the game - the moves and countermoves - continue to be played out. The winning side with the upper hand cannot simply wipe the chess board and knock over all the pieces because "I'm going to win!". Rather, from a position of strength and strategic supremacy, the winning side controls the overall direction of the game, increasingly 'forcing moves' by the opponent, and gradually limiting and destroying the opponent's capacity to make effective counter-moves.

In other words, in this scenario, 'Patriots in Control' from Q does NOT mean that the Patriot team controls EVERYTHING. It means, they control the overall direction of the war. They have the upper hand, and have accomplished a strategic position where they can force, by and large, the direction and therefore eventual outcome of the conflict.

However, despite this upper hand, the opponent can still make countermoves. And, in this particular war we have been in (or this stage of the war we have been in) for the past 10 years, the enemy is NEVER going to give up and concede, not until there are zero alternatives. And even then, very likely the majority of the enemy team will go down in hatred, destruction, trying to take as much down with them as possible. (It's the nature of evil.)

Therefore, apart from increasingly limiting the effective counter-moves the enemy can make, the winning side also has to work hard to limit collateral damage and hurt, as much as possible. But in war, there is always loss and pain.

Anyway, to me, this is the only interpretation of "Patriots in Control" that makes sense morally, intellectually, spiritually.

Either way, let's just pin that particular interpretation and then apply it to China.

If China was also in a good twin - evil twin war, how would this interpretation apply?


What if....?

We can by and large accept that Trump and Team are exposing the infiltration of the US and destroying the US version of the 'Evil Twin' while minimizing the overall damage as much as possible. But if (and it’s a big if) Xi is actually marching toward the goal of liberating China from the Evil Twin - the Cabal, including the CCP and its tendrils - then he would also have to play a similar game, where moves and counter-moves take place.

In this scenario, the Xi team would be unable to completely and immediately stop all the bad things happening in China... They would have to work, pushing forward, securing the situation to the point when the real reform could 'come out into the open' and the enemy, the CCP Deep State structure, has no real way to derail or prevent its own destruction. Not an easy thing in a nation and society founded on and run for its whole history on dictatorial Communist Principles.

#Note: "out in the open"

Lots of anons, and otherwise erudite thinkers, have pointed out that DJT coming out to the public and putting all the disclosure, declassification and information to the American public marks a significant turning point or marking point in the war we are in. In short, in the take down of an organized crime infrastructure, you do not come out and make things public until all the necessary evidence is secured, witnesses lined up, and criminals all but publicly 'caught' in the net.

So, I'm supposing that if Team Xi is in fact working on a trajectory to liberate the Chinese people, then it’s entirely plausible that they haven't reached that 'going public' stage yet, too.

Anyway, if the above is accurate, then that would explain why

a) China as a whole, not yet freed from the CCP tyranny, is still a tangible or active threat to the USA,

b) the threat needs to be contained - from outside and from within - by DJT's legitimate US govt, as "China"

c) Trump could expose "China" as doing all the things it allegedly did even while

d) Trump can be so chummy with Xi, despite him being an 'evil despotic insane dictator' <sic>


Enemy Nation?

Essentially, from a purely external or normal (normie?) perspective, Trump's coming public with the role that "China" played in the election rigging on Thursday should mean that China is engaged in war with the USA, that China is an enemy on a worse level than anyone else <ahem> like "Iran", for example.

But Trump just visited with China and Xi in May this year. The first visit to China since his original trip in 2017. So what's with that? Was it to check the plans and prepare for this stage?

Is China as a whole really the enemy nation? Or is China, like Russia and like the USA, engaged in a death battle with the International Globalist Regime, fighting its own 'Deep State' evil twin element, namely the historically controlling Cabal and CCP?

And remember, by all appearances, the CCP is the Frankenstein's Monster of the Globalist Bankers, the creature they created (Mao, etc) but which then refused to submit to them and do their bidding (making China a slave vassal nation), and instead following their own path, evil though it was?

Consider all the elements of the scenario I describe above, how then to explain "China’s” involvement in rigging the US election, seeking to install Bidden, etc? As exposed publicly by DJT on Thursday? How, you ask? Like this:

It was elements within China, aka the Evil Twin elements, the Cabal and CCP clique not yet fully subdued by Xi, that did this. Not the nation as governed by Xi as a whole, but the evil elements, the evil twin, with who Xi is engaged in a war himself.

And, what if, all during the period in question (2018-2024), while the Evil Twin CCP and Chinese Cabal elements were actively seeking to destroy Trump, undermine the 2020 election and more, Trump and Xi have actually been in a very secretive cooperative operation, targeting the same enemy?

Scenario DJT & XI?

I'll take care of my bad guys, you take care of your bad guys, but let’s cooperate so that they can destroy themselves by doing what they do

I mean, what if DJT and XI let those evil elements in China do that they planned to do, with the evil twin elements in the US, as a sting operation? It would allow Trump to declare himself a wartime President, with a foreign nation (China) attacking the USA, and gain all the leverage that allows, while the coordinating Trump - Xi team could capture and destroy the Evil Twin elements in BOTH their nations.

Then, why not say so on Thursday? Why not say "Actually, Xi is a great guy, and it wasn't him, but it was elements within the Chinese nation that attempted to do all these things"? Why say "China did this"?

Several reasons:

Firstly, doing so would expose any operation Xi was conducting behind the scenes against the Evil Twin Cabal within China, when perhaps the operation there is not quite at that stage.

Secondly, it would minimize the leverage that Trump gains by exposing that a foreign country, in cooperation with elements within the US (aka Deep State), has been directly interfering and manipulating the electoral system.

Three, it's not necessary, yet.

If the above theory is accurate, I can envision a potential unfolding of events, where Trump, meeting with Xi, raising the Chinese interference thing, providing Xi with mountains of leverage finally needed to destroy the Evil Twin elements within China itself. Hey, communist nation. You always need a reason to have a purge, right? It used to be counter-revolutionary thought. But as things normalized (<sic> in the country, it becomes 'corruption' etc.

This way, both Trump and Xi get what they want: leverage to destroy their own deep state, and in Trump's case, leverage to advance securing the election system while pursuing accountability to everyone who has been doing everything they can to destroy Trump and in doing so, commit treason against the Country and the Constitution.

So, Why it Was "Chyna", and Not "Elements In China" on Thursday Night...?

I don't have any real solid evidence, but I suspect that it was evil elements within China that Trump was indirectly exposing on Thursday, just not in those terms.

At this stage of the game, it’s still "USA vs China", not "Good Twins (in both countries) vs Evil Twins (in both countries)". I mean, as far as the normie narrative goes. But anons are used to thinking outside the regular channels of thought, and I think these questions are worth asking.


Addendum

One, the above does not mean, in any way, that the USA govt under Trump should be easy going or dismissive of the threat that CCP China poses. It doesn't mean a soft stance or ignoring the real danger is warranted.

Two, I know that some frogs are vehemently convinced that Xi is an insane, evil dictator with megalomaniacal ambitions, just as bad as Mao ever was. I can respect that, but I'm not convinced.

At the same time, I'm not convinced that Xi isn't a tyrannical megalomaniac, either. I do lean towards the "<Trump + Putin + Xi> are actually good guys scenario", but I simply do not know. I speculate. I consider various points, and then sure, go with my bias. But I can readily admit I do not KNOW.

Three, likewise, this post is speculation. It’s a thought exercise at trying to piece some of the dots together to see if this particular picture makes sense.

I'd be very interested to see what other frogs think. Hey, I'm not wedded to my theories. Let's just say, we have a good relationship and we've been courting a while....

wwg1wga


PS. Hat Tip to Chris Paul (at Badlands Media) for the "good twin - evil twin" phrasing. A very useful cipher, imo.

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