I have a friend lives in Ohio - told me the option was the extreme abortion law or no abortion at all, and "to protect her daughter" voted for it even though she doesn't agree with how far it goes. I'm not clear on how it came about but my impression was the GOP allowed extremist to write the law and put it on the ballot rather than write a moderate law themselves.
In CO there is a group trying to get a total ban on the ballot. OK, well considering CO has one of the more if not most permissive abortion situations in the country it somewhat makes sense, but what these idiots don't realize is IT WILL NEVER PASS. Principle is one thing but wouldn't they rather at least get late term bullshit back to illegal??? Start where you can make progress, not go for the whole enchilada that will never fly. Sad.
For now, certainly. Eventually maybe we get to a state where we don't NEED laws and most people don't need/want them*. (I personally don't think they should ever be totally banned - e.g. the mother's life is a thing. My aunt got pregnant but it turned out to be in her fallopian tube so would have killed her as well as the baby, so had to abort. When she got pregnant again the same way, same result so she - or uncle, not sure which - got fixed and they adopted.)
*The cultural shift necessary here of course applies to all kinds of things...as does the GA hmmm.
I also feel exceptions are necessary. I personally never considered an abortion. For any reason. But I haven't stood in everyone else's shoes. If I had gotten pregnant from rape or incest, I don't think I would have wanted to end the pregnancy, but that never happened to me. Some women may not emotionally or mentally be capable of dealing with carrying the child of their torturer or abuser. That is so not my place to judge. Life of mother is another exception I believe exists as well.
But she agrees with it, so it’s not a surprise and probably isn’t just because of her daughter. She agrees with abortion to an extent, so when it’s on the ballot as total abortion ban or none, she would’ve voted for it even without a daughter
I have a friend lives in Ohio - told me the option was the extreme abortion law or no abortion at all, and "to protect her daughter" voted for it even though she doesn't agree with how far it goes. I'm not clear on how it came about but my impression was the GOP allowed extremist to write the law and put it on the ballot rather than write a moderate law themselves.
You are correct on that. The advertising in the state was also extremely one-sided in favor of abortion.
I personally would still have voted against it - but that's me.
In CO there is a group trying to get a total ban on the ballot. OK, well considering CO has one of the more if not most permissive abortion situations in the country it somewhat makes sense, but what these idiots don't realize is IT WILL NEVER PASS. Principle is one thing but wouldn't they rather at least get late term bullshit back to illegal??? Start where you can make progress, not go for the whole enchilada that will never fly. Sad.
Agree - compromise is the key.
For now, certainly. Eventually maybe we get to a state where we don't NEED laws and most people don't need/want them*. (I personally don't think they should ever be totally banned - e.g. the mother's life is a thing. My aunt got pregnant but it turned out to be in her fallopian tube so would have killed her as well as the baby, so had to abort. When she got pregnant again the same way, same result so she - or uncle, not sure which - got fixed and they adopted.)
*The cultural shift necessary here of course applies to all kinds of things...as does the GA hmmm.
I also feel exceptions are necessary. I personally never considered an abortion. For any reason. But I haven't stood in everyone else's shoes. If I had gotten pregnant from rape or incest, I don't think I would have wanted to end the pregnancy, but that never happened to me. Some women may not emotionally or mentally be capable of dealing with carrying the child of their torturer or abuser. That is so not my place to judge. Life of mother is another exception I believe exists as well.
But she agrees with it, so it’s not a surprise and probably isn’t just because of her daughter. She agrees with abortion to an extent, so when it’s on the ballot as total abortion ban or none, she would’ve voted for it even without a daughter
Yep