So the Progressives wanted to pass the BBB bill which is 4T+. It contains all kinds of crap, SJW stuff, money for terrorists (I am speaking very loosely here). This was the real toxic bill that would destroy American.
They were putting enormous pressure on Pelosi and refused to pass the 1.2T infra bill (remember, 1.2T is nothing compared to the budget last year) unless the BBB was passed as well.
Instead, Pelosi twisted arms of 12 republicans and passed the 1.2T and said FU to the 4T BBB (The squad did not vote for it).
They backstabbed the Progressives, now Ps have no leverage (they cant hold the budget hostage) and Pelosi is deadly scared how they will get back at her (personally, I am guessing).
We are essentially watching the beginning of the Demplosion.
So TLDR is that the Dems always stick together. Now the Dems are fracturing and giving reach arounds to a few rino's instead? Infighting will intensify.
"was sidetracked after moderates demanded a cost estimate on the sprawling measure from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office"
By cracky, I think you're right! Sounds like corporate messaging to me. It is nonsense to think that the "cost" as scored by the CBO would be a controlling factor here.
If you follow how the Fed scam works, this is a big deep hole. You need a budget bigger each year just to pay off the Treasury Debt to the Fed, and last year Trump forced them to burn like 3-6T and much of it went to the people. Fed has been printing money furiously, to the tune of 100B every month.
1.2T is not gonna cover Biden's diapers in this scheme of things. In the past wars have started when such things happened. Pelosi is in deep doo doo. Patience my fren, the battlefield is wide and while it hurts us right now, we are digital soldiers after all, and no one said destroying evil was not going to hurt.
Thanks for the clarity bubble_bursts. So this is good news then! Thank you, I was very worried last night when I saw it passed. And very very worried about bbb.
Tell me though, I'm wondering how I can play this. Sadly, my congresswoman is one of those on the "squad" I gave up trying to suggest for her to come part way with Trump. (The 2nd time I tired to do that it seemed like her aide was taking down my name so that they maybe might send antifa here or something - so I stopped) I'm thinking the best way to work her might be to suggest she does something that would further weaken them (but in the guise of support) Should I suggest they leave the Democratic party with as many as they can. (If the Dems lose enough doesn't McCarthy become speaker????)
Sadly, my congresswoman is one of those on the "squad"
I'm thinking the best way to work her might be to suggest she does something that would further weaken them
Yep, exactly right. Pretend you care about BBB. Tell her that they have keeled over and let Nancy Pelosi walk all over them. Tell her that Dems and Republicans are far more closer to each other than Progressives can ever be. Tell her that she has been had, and they are taking "us" (as u pretend to be outraged by this) all on a ride.
Tell her you dont believe for a sec that once the budget report comes they will pass it, because in he Senate there is still the Manchin.
Tell her that, by allowing this bill to pass, there is now no pressure on Manchin to accept BBB, and tell her that she knows that the only way to have passed BBB was if they could hold the Infra bill hostage.
Tell her that you are very worried that this level of politics is too much for the new progressive players and you are worried the momentum will be lost.
All this will trigger her to no end, without outing you as Trump supporter.
Thank you for brainstorming this with me. I'll be mulling this over. Yeah since I can't push her in the right direction I'll push her closer to falling off the cliff. I want to try to suggest that they start a new party as well.... Thanks fren ;)
I don't understand how they were lied to. Can someone hold my hand and guide me through this?
So the Progressives wanted to pass the BBB bill which is 4T+. It contains all kinds of crap, SJW stuff, money for terrorists (I am speaking very loosely here). This was the real toxic bill that would destroy American.
They were putting enormous pressure on Pelosi and refused to pass the 1.2T infra bill (remember, 1.2T is nothing compared to the budget last year) unless the BBB was passed as well.
Instead, Pelosi twisted arms of 12 republicans and passed the 1.2T and said FU to the 4T BBB (The squad did not vote for it).
They backstabbed the Progressives, now Ps have no leverage (they cant hold the budget hostage) and Pelosi is deadly scared how they will get back at her (personally, I am guessing).
We are essentially watching the beginning of the Demplosion.
So TLDR is that the Dems always stick together. Now the Dems are fracturing and giving reach arounds to a few rino's instead? Infighting will intensify.
Dems always look like they stick together, but they have always been Uniparty behind the scenes. Trump just pulled the curtain.
I like it. Very much. Essentially they're eating themselves and don't know they're doing it.
Thank you fren, this movie is gettin' good!
Except that’s not how things happened.
They “compromised” while pulling political theater tricks to “wait for the budget office to issue a report on the costs.”
They’re going to pass both.
Thats all official excuses to keep the base expecting.
Not without Manchin's co-operation in Senate, and now with this bill passing there is no pressure on him.
It already passed the procedural vote in the house. Manchin is already complaining about the “hostile work environment of the Senate.” He’ll use that excuse to pass the BBB.
"was sidetracked after moderates demanded a cost estimate on the sprawling measure from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office"
By cracky, I think you're right! Sounds like corporate messaging to me. It is nonsense to think that the "cost" as scored by the CBO would be a controlling factor here.
I'm nervous about the welfare of the country hanging on Manchin. I don't know if he can hold against the tremendous onslaught the left will give him.
If you follow how the Fed scam works, this is a big deep hole. You need a budget bigger each year just to pay off the Treasury Debt to the Fed, and last year Trump forced them to burn like 3-6T and much of it went to the people. Fed has been printing money furiously, to the tune of 100B every month.
1.2T is not gonna cover Biden's diapers in this scheme of things. In the past wars have started when such things happened. Pelosi is in deep doo doo. Patience my fren, the battlefield is wide and while it hurts us right now, we are digital soldiers after all, and no one said destroying evil was not going to hurt.
Could actually be true once the currency's finished being devalued
They'll be printing hundred quintillion-dollar bills
Based take fren!
Thanks for the clarity bubble_bursts. So this is good news then! Thank you, I was very worried last night when I saw it passed. And very very worried about bbb.
Tell me though, I'm wondering how I can play this. Sadly, my congresswoman is one of those on the "squad" I gave up trying to suggest for her to come part way with Trump. (The 2nd time I tired to do that it seemed like her aide was taking down my name so that they maybe might send antifa here or something - so I stopped) I'm thinking the best way to work her might be to suggest she does something that would further weaken them (but in the guise of support) Should I suggest they leave the Democratic party with as many as they can. (If the Dems lose enough doesn't McCarthy become speaker????)
Yep, exactly right. Pretend you care about BBB. Tell her that they have keeled over and let Nancy Pelosi walk all over them. Tell her that Dems and Republicans are far more closer to each other than Progressives can ever be. Tell her that she has been had, and they are taking "us" (as u pretend to be outraged by this) all on a ride.
Tell her you dont believe for a sec that once the budget report comes they will pass it, because in he Senate there is still the Manchin.
Tell her that, by allowing this bill to pass, there is now no pressure on Manchin to accept BBB, and tell her that she knows that the only way to have passed BBB was if they could hold the Infra bill hostage.
Tell her that you are very worried that this level of politics is too much for the new progressive players and you are worried the momentum will be lost.
All this will trigger her to no end, without outing you as Trump supporter.
Thank you for brainstorming this with me. I'll be mulling this over. Yeah since I can't push her in the right direction I'll push her closer to falling off the cliff. I want to try to suggest that they start a new party as well.... Thanks fren ;)
Can you make a full post about this to clarify it to the site? There seems to be an attack underway to demoralize about this passage.
I will add it to the sticky comment