Not to be a big doomer here but the USA has utterly SUCKED at protests starting with Covid/masks/vax - other than isolated pockets like LA (of all fucking places) it's been retarded.
And, protests don't seem to really work until they reach the level of not-peacefully, such as in Sri Lanka.
"If you're not prepared..." ok armchair, thanks for your support.
Edit: Just asking, as I don't really know - did the protests in Britain (which as indicated above you guys - assuming your username means British of course - deserve due credit for) really accomplish anything/bring about any change, or did stuff like lockdowns etc just end sort of organically as things wound down?
They had to end for optics due to outrage about government partying during 'lockdowns', but compliance was definitely waning, as was patience in view of truths trickling out.
The problem is ideas vs. Values. Ideas are flexible, moldable, and ever changing. This is the Democrat party and it's followers. They built their foundations on ideas, and the problem with this is it inherently allows for cognitive dissonance.
The right however built its foundations on values. Values are concrete and don't change, and allows for people to see things as they actually are, and call out cognitive dissonance. However ideas can pull people out of values more easily than vice versa. The problem here particularly is that we built a country on values, and a system around it (inclusive of laws and justice). And as far as I can tell, the right believes in values and law and by extension trusts that the right thing will be done ( that it can or will rectified in the system).
The left has the idea that the right is inherently evil and that they have to fight for every inch from the evil right, while the right thinks the left is stupid and the system will fix it. Problem being the system is no longer controlled by values or value centric people but by people with ideas outside of our value system.
So In short the left mobilizes because it has to survive, while the right has become to complacent with our liberally ran justice and legislative system and because of which does not jump into action.
Remember when Trump was booed by his own base when talking vaccines? It's because of our values (bodily autonomy, freedom, etc..) it doesn't matter what politician is in office and saying what, even someone as amazing as Trump will get challenged by his own base, but unlike dems we can still like someone who has a different view.
Democrats will change their mind any time the politician they praise tells them to. Because they don't give a shit about values, they only care about the ever changing idea parroted by their favorite candidate.
I am a Brit but no longer live in Britain. I lost all respect for my country thanks to Tony Blair and his lies about Iraq.
As a Brit, I know what it is like to live in a country where, as a normal citizen, you have no means to defend yourselves against a tyrannical Govt because we don't have 2A. You are at their mercy.
Protect your Constitution and rights with everything you can because once it's gone, it's gone forever.
'We the people' doesn't exist outside of the US and I envy you for that.
Oh believe me, I sincerely hope if push really does come to shove, people man up instead of just standing behind statistics of how armed we are. And yes I've long known just how fortunate we are here - or, were, mostly, sort of, till recently (the more you learn, the farther back you realize not so much, but anyway) - and yeah watching places like UK and esp NZ/AUS get the worst of the lockdowns etc it was like absolutely on the we must never - EVER - give up our guns. I hope we never have to get to the point of using them, but you've got it about "forever."
Edit: So what do you think of the protests' effectiveness there? Do you think they made a difference, or was it more just they did it (like I say, unlike here) and then coincidentally after that people were just not complying as much etc (I might add, much of the US would have complied forever based on how they reacted initially AND as things wore on).
It's difficult for me to say if protests were effective as I no longer live there.
I think there is a limited value to protests but all you really achieve is a little lip service. Fundamentally it changes very little.
I will always advocate for peace and dialogue because I also know what the alternative looks like. I served my country to fight enemies in foreign lands but was also faced with fighting the IRA.
I hope with all my heart that this can be resolved through peaceful means but if like you say, push comes to shove, I can still drop targets at 600yrds+ if needed to protect my family.
Well, firstly, why should the commies stop cheating when it works every time for them? Secondly, I think peacefully and patriotically is not working. Our Founding Fathers knew what to do and how to do it. We need to take a lesson from them. The commies say anything and DO anything they want--we need to take a page from their playbook
All I can say is, it's up to the people of Arizona (and elsewhere) to stand up and say NO MORE! Peacefully and patriotically of course.
If you're not prepared to fight for your country then stop complaining. The left won't stop cheating, because they can.
Not to be a big doomer here but the USA has utterly SUCKED at protests starting with Covid/masks/vax - other than isolated pockets like LA (of all fucking places) it's been retarded.
And, protests don't seem to really work until they reach the level of not-peacefully, such as in Sri Lanka.
"If you're not prepared..." ok armchair, thanks for your support.
Edit: Just asking, as I don't really know - did the protests in Britain (which as indicated above you guys - assuming your username means British of course - deserve due credit for) really accomplish anything/bring about any change, or did stuff like lockdowns etc just end sort of organically as things wound down?
They had to end for optics due to outrage about government partying during 'lockdowns', but compliance was definitely waning, as was patience in view of truths trickling out.
So...the answer on protest effectiveness sounds like "sort of" give or take? Is that reasonable or less or more?
This is a tough one to crack.
The problem is ideas vs. Values. Ideas are flexible, moldable, and ever changing. This is the Democrat party and it's followers. They built their foundations on ideas, and the problem with this is it inherently allows for cognitive dissonance.
The right however built its foundations on values. Values are concrete and don't change, and allows for people to see things as they actually are, and call out cognitive dissonance. However ideas can pull people out of values more easily than vice versa. The problem here particularly is that we built a country on values, and a system around it (inclusive of laws and justice). And as far as I can tell, the right believes in values and law and by extension trusts that the right thing will be done ( that it can or will rectified in the system).
The left has the idea that the right is inherently evil and that they have to fight for every inch from the evil right, while the right thinks the left is stupid and the system will fix it. Problem being the system is no longer controlled by values or value centric people but by people with ideas outside of our value system.
So In short the left mobilizes because it has to survive, while the right has become to complacent with our liberally ran justice and legislative system and because of which does not jump into action.
Remember when Trump was booed by his own base when talking vaccines? It's because of our values (bodily autonomy, freedom, etc..) it doesn't matter what politician is in office and saying what, even someone as amazing as Trump will get challenged by his own base, but unlike dems we can still like someone who has a different view.
Democrats will change their mind any time the politician they praise tells them to. Because they don't give a shit about values, they only care about the ever changing idea parroted by their favorite candidate.
I am a Brit but no longer live in Britain. I lost all respect for my country thanks to Tony Blair and his lies about Iraq.
As a Brit, I know what it is like to live in a country where, as a normal citizen, you have no means to defend yourselves against a tyrannical Govt because we don't have 2A. You are at their mercy.
Protect your Constitution and rights with everything you can because once it's gone, it's gone forever.
'We the people' doesn't exist outside of the US and I envy you for that.
Oh believe me, I sincerely hope if push really does come to shove, people man up instead of just standing behind statistics of how armed we are. And yes I've long known just how fortunate we are here - or, were, mostly, sort of, till recently (the more you learn, the farther back you realize not so much, but anyway) - and yeah watching places like UK and esp NZ/AUS get the worst of the lockdowns etc it was like absolutely on the we must never - EVER - give up our guns. I hope we never have to get to the point of using them, but you've got it about "forever."
Edit: So what do you think of the protests' effectiveness there? Do you think they made a difference, or was it more just they did it (like I say, unlike here) and then coincidentally after that people were just not complying as much etc (I might add, much of the US would have complied forever based on how they reacted initially AND as things wore on).
It's difficult for me to say if protests were effective as I no longer live there. I think there is a limited value to protests but all you really achieve is a little lip service. Fundamentally it changes very little.
I will always advocate for peace and dialogue because I also know what the alternative looks like. I served my country to fight enemies in foreign lands but was also faced with fighting the IRA.
I hope with all my heart that this can be resolved through peaceful means but if like you say, push comes to shove, I can still drop targets at 600yrds+ if needed to protect my family.
Well, firstly, why should the commies stop cheating when it works every time for them? Secondly, I think peacefully and patriotically is not working. Our Founding Fathers knew what to do and how to do it. We need to take a lesson from them. The commies say anything and DO anything they want--we need to take a page from their playbook
It's not up to the people. The people can only do so much.
Either the military step in or we are fucked.