Why can't we have cities "designed" organically by the people living in them on their private property with which people can do what they desire, not "designed" by city planners, zoning, Big Government, etc?
You don't see the contradiction inherent in "free to choose how they live WITHIN IT" (emphasis added)?
can you name one place where your vision has worked? I can name areas where it has not: anywhere rural where people get to do whatever they want. If we don't have some level of zoning and code, we devolve. Period.
99 percent of people are not capable of absolute freedom... simply because they have no consideration for others. So, I don't know what type of utopia you think is feasible with total freedom. But humanity would suffer.
I am not a planning nazi. I don't like the idea of boundaries. My only point was that a well-designed and planned community would foster neighborhoods, community, outdoor interaction, etc.
Edit: I'm not making a joke about the place/answering your question, which I just noticed it may look like. The point is you are presumably for freedom, but think people can't handle it. Well...what's the answer?
The answer is rights, without ANY abrogation. Period.
Edit 2: Are you, by any chance, the same guy who on my post about the infernal 15-minute (at most) commie shit hole known as "Downtown Westminster" (CO) said it's a good idea? Just curious....
Think about the average people that live in cities - at least the bigger ones. Also the concept of private property may not really exist in places like Baltimore, NYC, Detroit - lots of row houses, apartments, and section-8 housing. People living in big urban areas mostly just want to avoid getting robbed/killed, keep their heads down, and survive. Or they are just completely oblivious. That's why when news channels go interview people on the street and ask them easy questions like who is the president they have no clue.
Some of the things you outlined could work in suburban areas but even there you have the NAZI home owner associations, the soccer moms and Karens, and the people like me who don't want other people telling me what to do.
I guess the only place something like this would work is in an Amish area.
Lancaster, PA is a perfect example of a city in very close proximity to the Amish chock full of shootings, robbery etc. White trash meth heads that block traffic on Rt30 because of whatever the latest thing is. Here's hoping climate change takes them the F out.
Why can't we have cities "designed" organically by the people living in them on their private property with which people can do what they desire, not "designed" by city planners, zoning, Big Government, etc?
You don't see the contradiction inherent in "free to choose how they live WITHIN IT" (emphasis added)?
"Why the control?" - Infuckingdeed.
Are we awake here or not???
Nope. Still dreaming. The alarm hasn't gone off yet.
Ahh...the convenience of 15 minute shootings ...sounds like quite the paradise...
It sure looks that way given the nature of replies further down the subthread!
without some level of civilized design, humanity would be a charlie foxtrot.
Wrong in principle and wrong in practice.
can you name one place where your vision has worked? I can name areas where it has not: anywhere rural where people get to do whatever they want. If we don't have some level of zoning and code, we devolve. Period.
99 percent of people are not capable of absolute freedom... simply because they have no consideration for others. So, I don't know what type of utopia you think is feasible with total freedom. But humanity would suffer.
I am not a planning nazi. I don't like the idea of boundaries. My only point was that a well-designed and planned community would foster neighborhoods, community, outdoor interaction, etc.
Contradiction city.
Edit: I'm not making a joke about the place/answering your question, which I just noticed it may look like. The point is you are presumably for freedom, but think people can't handle it. Well...what's the answer?
The answer is rights, without ANY abrogation. Period.
Edit 2: Are you, by any chance, the same guy who on my post about the infernal 15-minute (at most) commie shit hole known as "Downtown Westminster" (CO) said it's a good idea? Just curious....
I think you are correct, order is good but we just need good order
What's wrong with small villages?
Nothing... I live in one. Love it.
Think about the average people that live in cities - at least the bigger ones. Also the concept of private property may not really exist in places like Baltimore, NYC, Detroit - lots of row houses, apartments, and section-8 housing. People living in big urban areas mostly just want to avoid getting robbed/killed, keep their heads down, and survive. Or they are just completely oblivious. That's why when news channels go interview people on the street and ask them easy questions like who is the president they have no clue.
Some of the things you outlined could work in suburban areas but even there you have the NAZI home owner associations, the soccer moms and Karens, and the people like me who don't want other people telling me what to do.
I guess the only place something like this would work is in an Amish area.
Excuse me Not even there.
Lancaster, PA is a perfect example of a city in very close proximity to the Amish chock full of shootings, robbery etc. White trash meth heads that block traffic on Rt30 because of whatever the latest thing is. Here's hoping climate change takes them the F out.
Lancaster has leftist activists? I'm familiar with route 30 but more around Gettysburg,