Thank you for your service! I am saddened that we have come to this. My father would have been furious… he was a Master Sergeant USAF for 25 years. We lost him to cancer after he returned from North Korea under POTUS Regan. WWG1WGA. ♥️🐸🇺🇸
I'm very sorry to hear that. Could they attribute his cancer to something overseas? I hope so because then the family is pretty well taken care of usually.
Oh they did! They took real good care of my mom and made sure she was all set with benefits and such! He was an honorable man and his heart would be sickened with the likes of Milley and the rest. War was a mans prerogative and didn’t require ladies in front. Ladies were considered best as nurses and caretakers. Pregnant women had no place on the battlefield. I wholeheartedly agree with him on this. Thanks for the good vibes fren! 😊👍🏻
as shitty as it is now, it'll be sorted out. make them fire you its beyond illegal to mandate any of this. Would they MANDATE you insert a buttplug to stop covid19? wtf is the difference its medical rape.
No, they came out with a DoD-3150 form called Attestation of Vaccination" in which they specifically say that even if you have a religious exemption, you must check the "Unvaccinated" box and you will receive the same penalties as an unvaccinated person without a religious exemption.
To make it worse, we were told there would be "progressive" penalties... meaning it starts with a yelling and then I guess goes down to a discharge. It's insane man. The people making these decisions don't even know what to do when we all leave. We've asked what their plan is to replace us and the response has been variances of, "we are working on solutions, but currently do not have any plans."
Oh good. So a weak ass military of people who don't want to be there.
I kind of knew my command would be fast tracking this. They've been on the lefty side of things forever and are typically "yes" men. Before then, hopefully we will have this figured out for you, miss. You don't need that stress when we all know it's baseless, purely political garbage.
Oh I am! I told them and the rest of the crew, I'm getting drug out of there. I'm not leaving on my own because this is all just craziness. I'm calling their bluff and told the others I want them to do the same. I had a good talk with everyone and let them know that their rights and this country is more important than this job. You guys need to have your finances in order and be prepared to lose the job, so live off of rice and beans for a couple months, but do not leave until they pull you out. Most were in agreement, so we'll see.
I'm an engineer testing engines, so I think I could get some jobs. Unfortunately they couldn't be with defense contractors because they have to take the jab too. So maybe somewhere in the car industry or something.
So sorry to hear this. But you do what YOU have to do.
If you decide to NOT get the jab and are separated, I suggest you write a letter to your CoC explaining why you are not complying with the order (if it even IS an order)(religious, medical, personal beliefs, etc). You may also want to keep a copy and have someone in your command initial that they received it (CYA). You never know what could happen in the future and that letter may come in handy. Something to keep in mind though is policy, suggestion, coercion, etc, are NOT orders and they can't do anything to you. They can make your life unhappy but they have no legal recourse.
I'm with you and appreciate that. I'm working on getting a lawyer now, because you're correct that this is coercion and, since they're completely ignoring our religious exemptions, it's all completely illegal. I have been very civil so far, but I have made very good arguments against these policies and have made my arguments known to everyone. Everyone has basically used me as a launchpad because they got brave after I raised hell (through calm argument) about no one above us having the balls to be a leader and defend us. Everyone has been on my side, so we are almost all not taking it, with the exception of a couple here and there.
I won't take it, but I can get a job elsewhere, so I'm stressed, but not overly so. I know I've got you frens with me! And I mean that.
It sounds like you are handling things well. Maybe you can make this into a class action suit by having others join you. I know there are a couple of law suits going on with other members of the service maybe this can be another.
Kudos to you and keep us updated. From one vet to another, drive on.
No, which is crazy. Our DoD-3150 form says religious exemption will face the same penalties as non-religious exempt unvaxxed. So it doesn't matter if you put a religious exemption in or not.
That's exactly what I keep in mind. I'm not worried, honestly, but there's just a lot of frustration, I guess. I'm 100% certain our President is going to be back, so I'm keeping my patience.
Well, I'm about to lose my Navy job by the 22nd of Nov. That's our deadline for not getting the jab.
Thank you for your service! I am saddened that we have come to this. My father would have been furious… he was a Master Sergeant USAF for 25 years. We lost him to cancer after he returned from North Korea under POTUS Regan. WWG1WGA. ♥️🐸🇺🇸
I'm very sorry to hear that. Could they attribute his cancer to something overseas? I hope so because then the family is pretty well taken care of usually.
Oh they did! They took real good care of my mom and made sure she was all set with benefits and such! He was an honorable man and his heart would be sickened with the likes of Milley and the rest. War was a mans prerogative and didn’t require ladies in front. Ladies were considered best as nurses and caretakers. Pregnant women had no place on the battlefield. I wholeheartedly agree with him on this. Thanks for the good vibes fren! 😊👍🏻
Fuck. So sorry fren. 🥺😥
Thanks for your service.
Do you at least get an honorable discharge or how TF does that work out in real life?
We can discharge, but I don't think it's honorable. It's basically a resignation.
Praying for you. Thank you for your service.
Smoke pot, that should get ya honorable discharge
You're not wrong lol
A resignation isn't considered honorable??
Again; I'm just so sorry.
What a giant shit sandwich these evil demons are forcing so many into.
🤬🤬🤬🤬
as shitty as it is now, it'll be sorted out. make them fire you its beyond illegal to mandate any of this. Would they MANDATE you insert a buttplug to stop covid19? wtf is the difference its medical rape.
You're absolutely right. I'm sure Biden and Hunter would love to make that mandate happen 🤣 Me? Not so much. I would just quit then...
/u/teppischfresser is Navy. I thought they did that already.
*laughs in prior-service Air Force*
You know what they say, "leave as 5000 sailors, come back as 2500 couples."
Its not gay if its under way
Religious exemption didn't fly?
No, they came out with a DoD-3150 form called Attestation of Vaccination" in which they specifically say that even if you have a religious exemption, you must check the "Unvaccinated" box and you will receive the same penalties as an unvaccinated person without a religious exemption.
That's a fucking disgrace...
To make it worse, we were told there would be "progressive" penalties... meaning it starts with a yelling and then I guess goes down to a discharge. It's insane man. The people making these decisions don't even know what to do when we all leave. We've asked what their plan is to replace us and the response has been variances of, "we are working on solutions, but currently do not have any plans."
Oh good. So a weak ass military of people who don't want to be there.
That's wrong and goes against what has ALWAYS been said and done about every other vaccine they gave us.
Mine is Jan 2022.
I kind of knew my command would be fast tracking this. They've been on the lefty side of things forever and are typically "yes" men. Before then, hopefully we will have this figured out for you, miss. You don't need that stress when we all know it's baseless, purely political garbage.
i think its a scare tactic. HOLD!
Oh I am! I told them and the rest of the crew, I'm getting drug out of there. I'm not leaving on my own because this is all just craziness. I'm calling their bluff and told the others I want them to do the same. I had a good talk with everyone and let them know that their rights and this country is more important than this job. You guys need to have your finances in order and be prepared to lose the job, so live off of rice and beans for a couple months, but do not leave until they pull you out. Most were in agreement, so we'll see.
Do you have a job that will translate in to a trade? If so... get ready for some money’s.
I'm an engineer testing engines, so I think I could get some jobs. Unfortunately they couldn't be with defense contractors because they have to take the jab too. So maybe somewhere in the car industry or something.
So sorry to hear this. But you do what YOU have to do.
If you decide to NOT get the jab and are separated, I suggest you write a letter to your CoC explaining why you are not complying with the order (if it even IS an order)(religious, medical, personal beliefs, etc). You may also want to keep a copy and have someone in your command initial that they received it (CYA). You never know what could happen in the future and that letter may come in handy. Something to keep in mind though is policy, suggestion, coercion, etc, are NOT orders and they can't do anything to you. They can make your life unhappy but they have no legal recourse.
Don't stress, everything happens for a reason.
I'm with you and appreciate that. I'm working on getting a lawyer now, because you're correct that this is coercion and, since they're completely ignoring our religious exemptions, it's all completely illegal. I have been very civil so far, but I have made very good arguments against these policies and have made my arguments known to everyone. Everyone has basically used me as a launchpad because they got brave after I raised hell (through calm argument) about no one above us having the balls to be a leader and defend us. Everyone has been on my side, so we are almost all not taking it, with the exception of a couple here and there.
I won't take it, but I can get a job elsewhere, so I'm stressed, but not overly so. I know I've got you frens with me! And I mean that.
It sounds like you are handling things well. Maybe you can make this into a class action suit by having others join you. I know there are a couple of law suits going on with other members of the service maybe this can be another.
Kudos to you and keep us updated. From one vet to another, drive on.
Are there religious/medical/philosophical exemptions allowed? Most states have at least 1 or more of the 3 for schools and such.
No, which is crazy. Our DoD-3150 form says religious exemption will face the same penalties as non-religious exempt unvaxxed. So it doesn't matter if you put a religious exemption in or not.
We may need you on the home front, besides who knows what tomorrow may bring. Trump could be reinstated and ask all of you to come back.
That's exactly what I keep in mind. I'm not worried, honestly, but there's just a lot of frustration, I guess. I'm 100% certain our President is going to be back, so I'm keeping my patience.
Thanks you encouraged me. I loathe all this crap that is going on.
I'm here if you ever need me! This place has a lot of good people on it, including yourself, so I know we all have eqchothers backs.
Thank you for your service, Shipmate. I'm sure you'll be able to find work elsewhere.
Btw, what's your rate/rank?
I was an AO2 (AW/EOD).
EOD! My dad was EOD in the marine corps. I'm an engineer with 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing. I test engines for different aircraft.