There is substantial evidence that covid was over diagnosed (by a ton).
There is substantial evidence that the flu was under diagnosed (by a ton).
You are taking those two pieces of evidence and from that extrapolating that covid doesn't exist. Your conclusion does not follow necessarily from the evidence. On the contrary, there were far more (orders of magnitude more) people diagnosed with covid than ever before in flu history (not counting the 1918 "flu epidemic" when we hadn't even hypothesized about something called a "virus" yet). There were also far more deaths attributed to covid than ever before in flu history. If you take all the flu deaths and subtract them from all the reported covid deaths, there are orders of magnitude left over. I think many of those covid deaths were actually deaths from other things, but again, that doesn't in any way mean that covid is not a real thing, i.e. your conclusion does not necessarily follow.
I have had the flu several times in my life, perhaps 10(?). What I experienced last year was like the flu, but with unique symptoms that have been expressed by other people. Specifically my sense of smell and taste were thrown completely out of whack. While these senses have been muted in previous flu episodes, this was completely different. Things smelled incorrect, to the point that there was serious cognitive dissonance when trying to eat. I had to force myself to eat, just because every single thing I tried to eat smelled so completely incorrect my body tried to reject it.
That is a reportedly common experience with what people call "covid." Unless and until you experience this unique symptom, you can't appreciate how different it is from any flu symptom I have ever experienced or heard of. Whatever happened, it was unique. Denying that in support of your theory is not the path of honest investigation.
In addition, there is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that there was a unique virus called SARS-CoV-2 that was created in a lab and released upon the world.
There is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that a unique virus with the same RNA as SARS-CoV-2 was found in thousands upon thousands of lab tests (I mean lab tests, not "covid tests"). Covid deniers deny these tests, but I have performed these tests myself (not on SARS, but on other things previously). People say these tests are all fraudulent. No one who conducts these tests (like myself) who understands what these tests are really doing denies them. What would be required for these tests to be fraudulent would be for literally everything in biology to be a scam. It would basically require there to be little demons that run in and adjust all biological experiments done by a million biologists over the past century to align with the theory of "fraud" in these experiments. In other words, these tests are based on millions of experiments. They didn't come out for SARS, they are tests that have been run uncountable times. They are experimental protocols that were built upon millions of other experimental protocols that led up to them. Literally the entirety of biology would have to be not only "wrong," it would have to be completely wrong, at every single step, from the idea of a corporeal body on down to all of chemistry.
Denying all of this evidence to support your theory (especially the unique symptoms) is not an honest investigation.
Literally the entirety of biology would have to be not only "wrong," it would have to be completely wrong, at every single step, from the idea of a corporeal body on down to all of chemistry.
Since at least the time freemason pasteur’s germ theory “won” against terrain theory. But probably since earlier.
I have yet to meet someone that denies "germ theory" that has spent one second studying biology. Just "denying" something doesn't make it untrue. You need to address the points of an argument (in this case all of biology) point by point.
I’m not trying to change your mind here, if you want that meet me or other like minded anons on pol where the shills are pre screened.
The common flu is as fantastic as black holes are. Junk science. Consider an organism that exists which has the following properties:
a microscopic handful of them can temporarily incapacitate a healthy human as large as us.
but we eventually learn its pattern and adapt to it, by which time that virus needs to have spread using a variety of fantastic means that are analogous to interplanetary space travel, to other humans to start the cycle over.
there being a finite number of humans, this virus must also evolve new patterns to evade our immune system, constantly.
yet the symptoms remain the same over ages.
oh and people in complete isolation still get colds and flus, leading people of times past, who weren’t stupid, to mistakenly but understandably assign “cold” as the cause
people in warm climes also get them though, just with reduced and non seasonal frequency
and amongst it all, there are people like me, who read the signals their bodies send and address sickness before it starts with appropriate natural remedies. Despite having three snotty school age kids, despite handling their kleenexes and having cough droplets land in my eyes and mouth, I have gone years with no flu or cold.
Napoleon pulled just such a feat in egypt as I recall, with the plague and smallpox! Shortly before his masonic buddy pasteur used the data from that expedition to overturn ages of folk wisdom with “germ theory”. It was expertly timed to allow it appear as though germ theory and its application, and not sanitation systems of the quality the ancient world was accustomed to, was responsible for the decline of illness.
Your theory puts responsibility for your health with everyone but you. Why bother exercising, sleeping, sungazing, getting enough vitamin D, avoiding stress and drudgery, etc., only to be struck down by a random microscopic particle against which there is no defence?
Your theory leads to masks, vaxxes, vaxx passes and more. Anyone could be an infectious health risk. Their personal medical decisions affect us all on a small (but ever growing, of course) number of issues. My theory puts responsibility for your health squarely on your shoulders.
If you lack the will to stay healthy, don’t bring people like me down to your lowest common denominator. Be honest, how much of your food do you grow yourself.
a microscopic handful of them can temporarily incapacitate a healthy human as large as us.
You mean like a vaccine?
but we eventually learn its pattern and adapt to it
If you take five seconds to study how the immune system works, it becomes not so mysterious and "impossible."
there being a finite number of humans, this virus must also evolve new patterns to evade our immune system
These types of arguments run into ideas of "absolutes" and completely ignore ideas of "averages." Everything in biology, and indeed, all of nature, can be thought of as a "battle of attrition." Attrition happens in real wars. It happens in biology (all of the universe) as well. Why use it as an argument against?
oh and people in complete isolation still get colds and flus, leading people of times past, who weren’t stupid, to mistakenly but understandably assign “cold” as the cause
How exactly viruses spread may not always be obvious (they are really small, so we can't see it coming), but that doesn't in any way negate their existence. This is another strawman.
people in warm climes also get them though, just with reduced and non seasonal frequency
This would be evidence that supports the idea of a virus.
and amongst it all, there are people like me, who read the signals their bodies send and address sickness before it starts with appropriate natural remedies.
The immune system is a very powerful thing. Paying attention to your body, and giving it what it needs, allows the body to destroy an invader before it has a chance to do it's damage. Again, this is an argument in support of "virus theory."
It was expertly timed to allow it appear as though germ theory and its application, and not sanitation systems of the quality the ancient world was accustomed to, was responsible for the decline of illness.
Agreed. Fuckery is rampant throughout. This is not an argument against the existence of a virus, but against the diagnosis of any one particular problem. In addition to viruses making us sick, bacteria also cause disease. In the case of sanitation, it eliminates breeding grounds for bacteria. Thus improved sanitation (mostly just moving shit away from people) prevents people from getting sick from bacteria. It may even play a part in virus breeding (though off the top of my head I'm not sure how).
Your theory puts responsibility for your health with everyone but you.
How did you get that from anything I said? On the contrary, the opposite is true, and I agree with your statement completely. My health is fully my responsibility.
Your theory leads to masks, vaxxes, vaxx passes and more.
You are conflating two completely different things. Just because viruses exist doesn't in any way give anyone the right to claim ownership over me. The problem here is in the "inalienable Rights" v. "greater good" argument. That "the greater good" has been conflated with viruses is the real fuckery. If you can scare people enough, and make them believe that their health is not their responsibility but rather the responsibility of their "experts," then you can make a believable case for "the greater good." A "believable case" is not truth, it is just something to sell people, and it seems that you have been sold that. A part of you doesn't believe it however, so you are fighting against it. You are taking the fight to the wrong cause. The cause is not viruses, the cause is the fraud that anyone can claim the right to rule you.
I’ve had a flu that did that very thing. Toothpaste tasted like pickles. Food I loves tasted specifically like other food that you wouldn’t want in that context. Even fruit and fresh oranges tasted off. It happened 40 years ago and my parents left elementary school age me home alone sick for 2 days before sending me back.
Continue testing for covid using the ridiculous pcr test and you’ll get false positives for lyfe. It’s all a scam and always was.
Blame china for the propaganda. They started it with their ridiculous “leaked” vids of people dropping on the streets. There was no new virus, it was the flu. The vaxx was the payload.
Continue testing for covid using the ridiculous pcr test and you’ll get false positives for lyfe. It’s all a scam and always was.
I stated specifically NOT the PCR test. I am talking about lab tests. Some people talk about "covid never being isolated," then I point to numerous tests to the contrary. I've done it more times than I can count. I can do it again if you wish. It's all over the place. People then say, "That's not isolated. Here's what 'isolated' really means." To which I say, you have never performed these tests and have no idea what they are doing. I've even gone so far as to explain what the tests are doing, and how they are a form of isolation, and people still completely deny it, because it's only 99.99999999999999% isolation, and not 100% isolation.
It's all so silly.
As for your toothpaste taste, I can't say anything to that. I tasted nothing like pickles, but perhaps the experience was similar for you. Perhaps you even got a different coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been around for until millennia. SARS was reportedly made from other coronaviruses. SARS is reported to interact with specific receptors which are prevalent in the lungs, but also in the nasal cavity. Other viruses do that as well. There is nothing unique under the sun in virus land. On the contrary, it is highly likely (basically certain) that SARS was designed specifically to interact with those receptors. Perhaps it was chosen because of some other virus that does a similar thing.
I am not denying the propaganda, the lies in testing, the lies in diagnosis, that the vaccine is almost certainly responsible for more deaths than covid, etc. I have made the case for all of those things in great detail. But like all of the best lies, they are usually based on the truth. That is how you sell it. You can't convince all of the biologists that something exists unless something exists. You can however convince biologists that something is worse than it is. That is not hard at all. Biologists are people, and are just as subject to propaganda as anyone else, but actual tests can't be explained by "it doesn't exist" or "complete biology denial" as you support.
This is called a straw man argument. I am talking about thousands of reports of isolation (very specific pieces of data) by hundreds of different labs/biologists. You are talking about some reports of completely unrelated things being fraudulent.
Our whole science system is a lie and they maintain it together with their blackmail webs.
I agree with this completely. I have been a part of the "science system" for a substantial portion of my life. It's completely fubar. HOWEVER, the fucked up stuff is not in the experiments themselves (at least not these types of experiments that every undergrad does and has been repeated literally millions of times).
I believe nothing that I've been told. Instead I weigh the available evidence. At the moment, having done my due diligence, I "believe" that SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus beyond a reasonable doubt. In other words, having looked at all available evidence in earnest, I have no doubts left that are based on the process of reason (logic).
Just because I am "beyond a reasonable doubt" now doesn't mean it will always be so. If new evidence is presented that supports a reasonable doubt, then I will adopt that doubt. I will then dig into that evidence and either reject it, if I can find evidence against it, or accept alternative theories about SARS existence as "reasonable" if I can't.
There is substantial evidence that covid was over diagnosed (by a ton).
There is substantial evidence that the flu was under diagnosed (by a ton).
You are taking those two pieces of evidence and from that extrapolating that covid doesn't exist. Your conclusion does not follow necessarily from the evidence. On the contrary, there were far more (orders of magnitude more) people diagnosed with covid than ever before in flu history (not counting the 1918 "flu epidemic" when we hadn't even hypothesized about something called a "virus" yet). There were also far more deaths attributed to covid than ever before in flu history. If you take all the flu deaths and subtract them from all the reported covid deaths, there are orders of magnitude left over. I think many of those covid deaths were actually deaths from other things, but again, that doesn't in any way mean that covid is not a real thing, i.e. your conclusion does not necessarily follow.
I have had the flu several times in my life, perhaps 10(?). What I experienced last year was like the flu, but with unique symptoms that have been expressed by other people. Specifically my sense of smell and taste were thrown completely out of whack. While these senses have been muted in previous flu episodes, this was completely different. Things smelled incorrect, to the point that there was serious cognitive dissonance when trying to eat. I had to force myself to eat, just because every single thing I tried to eat smelled so completely incorrect my body tried to reject it.
That is a reportedly common experience with what people call "covid." Unless and until you experience this unique symptom, you can't appreciate how different it is from any flu symptom I have ever experienced or heard of. Whatever happened, it was unique. Denying that in support of your theory is not the path of honest investigation.
In addition, there is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that there was a unique virus called SARS-CoV-2 that was created in a lab and released upon the world.
There is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that a unique virus with the same RNA as SARS-CoV-2 was found in thousands upon thousands of lab tests (I mean lab tests, not "covid tests"). Covid deniers deny these tests, but I have performed these tests myself (not on SARS, but on other things previously). People say these tests are all fraudulent. No one who conducts these tests (like myself) who understands what these tests are really doing denies them. What would be required for these tests to be fraudulent would be for literally everything in biology to be a scam. It would basically require there to be little demons that run in and adjust all biological experiments done by a million biologists over the past century to align with the theory of "fraud" in these experiments. In other words, these tests are based on millions of experiments. They didn't come out for SARS, they are tests that have been run uncountable times. They are experimental protocols that were built upon millions of other experimental protocols that led up to them. Literally the entirety of biology would have to be not only "wrong," it would have to be completely wrong, at every single step, from the idea of a corporeal body on down to all of chemistry.
Denying all of this evidence to support your theory (especially the unique symptoms) is not an honest investigation.
Since at least the time freemason pasteur’s germ theory “won” against terrain theory. But probably since earlier.
I have yet to meet someone that denies "germ theory" that has spent one second studying biology. Just "denying" something doesn't make it untrue. You need to address the points of an argument (in this case all of biology) point by point.
I’m not trying to change your mind here, if you want that meet me or other like minded anons on pol where the shills are pre screened.
The common flu is as fantastic as black holes are. Junk science. Consider an organism that exists which has the following properties:
Napoleon pulled just such a feat in egypt as I recall, with the plague and smallpox! Shortly before his masonic buddy pasteur used the data from that expedition to overturn ages of folk wisdom with “germ theory”. It was expertly timed to allow it appear as though germ theory and its application, and not sanitation systems of the quality the ancient world was accustomed to, was responsible for the decline of illness.
Your theory puts responsibility for your health with everyone but you. Why bother exercising, sleeping, sungazing, getting enough vitamin D, avoiding stress and drudgery, etc., only to be struck down by a random microscopic particle against which there is no defence?
Your theory leads to masks, vaxxes, vaxx passes and more. Anyone could be an infectious health risk. Their personal medical decisions affect us all on a small (but ever growing, of course) number of issues. My theory puts responsibility for your health squarely on your shoulders.
If you lack the will to stay healthy, don’t bring people like me down to your lowest common denominator. Be honest, how much of your food do you grow yourself.
You mean like a vaccine?
If you take five seconds to study how the immune system works, it becomes not so mysterious and "impossible."
These types of arguments run into ideas of "absolutes" and completely ignore ideas of "averages." Everything in biology, and indeed, all of nature, can be thought of as a "battle of attrition." Attrition happens in real wars. It happens in biology (all of the universe) as well. Why use it as an argument against?
How exactly viruses spread may not always be obvious (they are really small, so we can't see it coming), but that doesn't in any way negate their existence. This is another strawman.
This would be evidence that supports the idea of a virus.
The immune system is a very powerful thing. Paying attention to your body, and giving it what it needs, allows the body to destroy an invader before it has a chance to do it's damage. Again, this is an argument in support of "virus theory."
Agreed. Fuckery is rampant throughout. This is not an argument against the existence of a virus, but against the diagnosis of any one particular problem. In addition to viruses making us sick, bacteria also cause disease. In the case of sanitation, it eliminates breeding grounds for bacteria. Thus improved sanitation (mostly just moving shit away from people) prevents people from getting sick from bacteria. It may even play a part in virus breeding (though off the top of my head I'm not sure how).
How did you get that from anything I said? On the contrary, the opposite is true, and I agree with your statement completely. My health is fully my responsibility.
You are conflating two completely different things. Just because viruses exist doesn't in any way give anyone the right to claim ownership over me. The problem here is in the "inalienable Rights" v. "greater good" argument. That "the greater good" has been conflated with viruses is the real fuckery. If you can scare people enough, and make them believe that their health is not their responsibility but rather the responsibility of their "experts," then you can make a believable case for "the greater good." A "believable case" is not truth, it is just something to sell people, and it seems that you have been sold that. A part of you doesn't believe it however, so you are fighting against it. You are taking the fight to the wrong cause. The cause is not viruses, the cause is the fraud that anyone can claim the right to rule you.
I’ve had a flu that did that very thing. Toothpaste tasted like pickles. Food I loves tasted specifically like other food that you wouldn’t want in that context. Even fruit and fresh oranges tasted off. It happened 40 years ago and my parents left elementary school age me home alone sick for 2 days before sending me back.
Continue testing for covid using the ridiculous pcr test and you’ll get false positives for lyfe. It’s all a scam and always was.
Blame china for the propaganda. They started it with their ridiculous “leaked” vids of people dropping on the streets. There was no new virus, it was the flu. The vaxx was the payload.
I stated specifically NOT the PCR test. I am talking about lab tests. Some people talk about "covid never being isolated," then I point to numerous tests to the contrary. I've done it more times than I can count. I can do it again if you wish. It's all over the place. People then say, "That's not isolated. Here's what 'isolated' really means." To which I say, you have never performed these tests and have no idea what they are doing. I've even gone so far as to explain what the tests are doing, and how they are a form of isolation, and people still completely deny it, because it's only 99.99999999999999% isolation, and not 100% isolation.
It's all so silly.
As for your toothpaste taste, I can't say anything to that. I tasted nothing like pickles, but perhaps the experience was similar for you. Perhaps you even got a different coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been around for until millennia. SARS was reportedly made from other coronaviruses. SARS is reported to interact with specific receptors which are prevalent in the lungs, but also in the nasal cavity. Other viruses do that as well. There is nothing unique under the sun in virus land. On the contrary, it is highly likely (basically certain) that SARS was designed specifically to interact with those receptors. Perhaps it was chosen because of some other virus that does a similar thing.
I am not denying the propaganda, the lies in testing, the lies in diagnosis, that the vaccine is almost certainly responsible for more deaths than covid, etc. I have made the case for all of those things in great detail. But like all of the best lies, they are usually based on the truth. That is how you sell it. You can't convince all of the biologists that something exists unless something exists. You can however convince biologists that something is worse than it is. That is not hard at all. Biologists are people, and are just as subject to propaganda as anyone else, but actual tests can't be explained by "it doesn't exist" or "complete biology denial" as you support.
Ngmi, honestly. I can point to many things that have been “reported” over the years.
Epstein was close with universities for a reason. Our whole science system is a lie and they maintain it together with their blackmail webs.
This is called a straw man argument. I am talking about thousands of reports of isolation (very specific pieces of data) by hundreds of different labs/biologists. You are talking about some reports of completely unrelated things being fraudulent.
I agree with this completely. I have been a part of the "science system" for a substantial portion of my life. It's completely fubar. HOWEVER, the fucked up stuff is not in the experiments themselves (at least not these types of experiments that every undergrad does and has been repeated literally millions of times).
Can we believe everything we've been told?
I believe nothing that I've been told. Instead I weigh the available evidence. At the moment, having done my due diligence, I "believe" that SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus beyond a reasonable doubt. In other words, having looked at all available evidence in earnest, I have no doubts left that are based on the process of reason (logic).
Just because I am "beyond a reasonable doubt" now doesn't mean it will always be so. If new evidence is presented that supports a reasonable doubt, then I will adopt that doubt. I will then dig into that evidence and either reject it, if I can find evidence against it, or accept alternative theories about SARS existence as "reasonable" if I can't.