I'm requesting advice from the old-timers regarding topics on this board NOT promoted/mentioned by Q. I apologize for the long post but I think this is important for those who are in my same predicament regarding Q-research vs conspiracy theories that harm our noble goals.
I retired from a 60 hr/wk job at the beginning of 2020. COVID hit w/in a couple of weeks and I was pissed that a lot of my plans were ruined. I had a feeling COVID was a hoax so I started researching COVID specifically since I had a lot of free time. I heard mention of "Q" a couple of times in 2019 but had no idea what "Q" was. Fast forward to 2020 and I start running across videos on YouTube that mention Q. Ahhh..OK. I branched into watching a lot of those as well. I ended up getting red-pilled too quickly but after a few weeks I started thinking...some of these people in the videos are full of shit.
I shut off YouTube, quit going to all the kook sites, grabbed a notebook, and started reading all the Q-drops from #1-present day while researching the drops specifically and taking notes. Then it all clicked. I soon confirmed to myself that many of the people making those videos never read a damn thing Q said or grossly misinterpreted/embellished things. I could see the big picture overall. I did not need or care so much about proofs, dates, etc. If anything, the Q-drops presented themselves to me as one bad-ass study guide about why things are the way they are. Cool.
I could not use social media for the past twenty years. I was a cop and my former Sheriff had a team of snitches that would actually search out employees' Facebooks and social media and then discipline them for "inappropriate comments" or even "liking" someone else's comment that they deemed "inappropriate". (Remember that old Planet of the Apes meme that looked like Valerie Jarrett? My buddy ended up on the local news and was suspended for several months for clicking "like" on that meme b/c they said it was "racist".) I can't keep my mouth shut so I never participated in any forum or social media until very recently. I am thankful I stayed away from social media for most of my life b/c I soon realized how retarded and gullible many people can be. Especially the group-thinkers. I would seriously be dooming right now otherwise.
B/c I researched the Q-drops independently, my brain was not corrupted by everyone's "hopium", "doom", and other dumb shit. B/c of this, I have no doubt the Biden Admin will be short for this earth. I don't care about the timeline, Q pointed me in the right direction, I researched, I know Q will sometimes purposely give misinfo, and I feel Trump/Q made the right moves that will eventually make everything right. No problem there. I got the 40,000 foot view and I have felt I was months ahead of any news outlet to the point I cringed when they finally reported on something that many of us had known forever. (And I have only been researching Q for about a year now.) Yall get the point.
Here's my problem. I need some advice from the old-timers that have been around from the beginning or earlier:
B/c I looked at Q primarily through my own research and never actively participated in forums, chans, kun, etc., I was surprised to see a lot of people on this board talking about the same fantastical things that Q never ever mentions, or if Q mentions it at all, it is rather vague. Here are a few examples:
NESARA/GESARA: This crowd always goes on about the utopia to come. I have never seen Q mention it once. Q mentioned the gold standard coming back. Q hints at making the banking system less centralized and more fair. I never saw a single drop mention NES/GES. All those NES/GES sites either try to sell you gold & silver and/or have a New Age theme to them. My observations/pattern recognition. Am I missing something obvious?
The latest one I have seen popping back up with a vengeance around here is the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES crowd. Almost 5,000 drops and I never heard Q mention this one time. Q mentions the Vatican / City of London / DC. Sure. But not "ADMIRALITY LAW" and "CONSTITUTION OF EIGHTEEN-SEVENTYwhatever". I ran across it a few times early on while researching other stuff. What I noticed is 5 different people/articles/vids will give you ten different explanations. I see Q constantly posting about restoring the Constitution but never about this stuff. These sites usually don't have the New Age themes as much but they still try to sell you some precious metals. Am I missing something obvious?
I have seen a lot of people claiming to be "Q-supporters/podcasters" talking about miracle medicinal cure-alls and regeneration machines. (When Trump gets back in we will have no more cancer on earth.) When the f*ck did Q mention this? Did I miss something? Q hinted that RBG might have been kept alive longer by medicines not available to the public. Q even mentioned (I believe) the possibility of eventually seeing alternative advanced forms of energy. Q even vaguely hinted at extra-terrestrial life but only because of the vastness of the universe. Nothing specific. However, I see a bunch of people falling for the Robert David Steele types. I like to keep an eye on some of these guys and I'll force myself to watch some of their videos. Amongst a lot of other BS, Steele once claimed that we are sending kids to Mars on a "twenty year ride" to work as off-planet slaves. Really? Come on. Don't even get me started on all those YouTubers/podcasters (including Steele) that constantly have inside info and "un-named sources". That shit pisses me off and I see people fall for it left and right. My friend sent me a Simon Parks vid recently and I instantly sent him back the "alien mother" vid with the reply: "Really. You believe this guy?"
For you long-time researchers (Q-researchers), am I way off here or are some people just gullible and/or filled on too much "hopium"? On one hand I feel my personal research benefited by not engaging much in forums/chans/social media. It certainly helped me not to fall into the "doomer crowd". I quickly realized that if lot of those "doomers" read even a fraction of Q's posts, they would be feeling pretty good right now. On the other hand, did I do myself a disservice by going out of my way to avoid the opinions of others?
Disclaimer In no way am I attacking this forum. There are a lot of really bright folks on here. It just seems that for every nugget of gold, I end up running across 10 pounds of sh*t. :) I'm all in on the plan. I just think it would help if more people actually read it.
Thoughts?
First off, excellent post and it gave me another perspective from which to view things, so thanks for that.
From my perspective as having only recently been introduced to Q I probably fall right into the category you are describing.
Part of the issue, at least for me, is that the Q data goes so far back and obviously requires a huge time investment that it's easy to fall into the trap of accepting other people's assessment/analysis/links without due diligence.
I try not to do that, but I once likened the experience on TD.W that it was like trying to take a sip of water from a fire hydrant - it's just too much too fast.
Whenever I take a step back and re-assess a lot of the drivel kind of just falls away and lets me focus on the aspects that stand out the most as anomalous.
For example, you mention Simon Parkes et.al. True, we have no evidence that his sources are valid, and even if they are he could be being used for disinfo - I take all that as a data point.
What I do try and do is follow up on real world information and evidence, e.g. FEMA, EO's, NG, Fences around DC etc. and then try and understand what I'm seeing actually happen through the lens of that evidence.
What I'm seeing is that there is something, but I don't pretend to fully understand it. Without the time to explore as in-depth as I would like I still tend to pick up on clues that other people drop so it's still confirmation bias to an extent, it's a tricky path to navigate.
What I need, and I think this might apply to others as well, is more of the kind of post you have written that cuts through to the core of what Q is about and more importantly, what it is not.
So again, thanks.
I re-read your response three times so I didn't overlap any of your message. I will support it ... Simon Parkes has zero credibility. He is fun to watch, but that is all he is good for - entertainment.
I have to be honest ... X22 (et.al.) are just entertainment. HOWEVER, I have to give X22, IPOT, and Praying Medic HUGE props for bringing millions to the watering hole that has become an Ocean of Q followers. If there was ever an honor for waking up normies those guys get first honors. That said ... they know as much as we do. Nothing more.
Q is real. No question about it. None. I was an analyst in the Military for 15 years. This was/is a psy-op/intel op. No question about it. POTUS (that actual POTUS) is a huge part. Dan Scavino is a huge part of it. General Flynn is a huge part of it. That said, unless it is someone from that inner-circle, anyone claiming to know something is full of shit.
Concur! (and OP stated it all very well) But I will always give extra props to IPOT for doing original research, looking hard into the dog codes- and his weathermen series is VERY well done. The other guys do speak very well to red pill and bring normies up to speed, give alternate perspectives, but yeah, the HONEST ones admit it's opinion and interpretations. The fastest way to tell a fake is when they claim absolute certainty (or direct comms, no evidence).
Love IPOT. He is willing to go further. Some guys just repeat the same points. He does go deep and tie it together. Which I truly appreciate.
IPOT= In Pursuit Of Truth.
Highly popular on twatter before he got hammered and now highly popular on GAB
https://gab.com/IPOT1776
In Pursuit Of Truth—Bitchute.com
Yeah, he's great at making connections. As for OP's original post: it basically says "I don't believe certain things, therefore: nothing to see here - move along!". IMO the truth revealed will be wild
Yes, those are all dependable sources and not nut jobs.
PM not so much. He’s full of himself and his books. IMO
PM hasn't editted any Q posts except to color code the images. Which Q actually reposted. Did you know that Q has reposted PM material? So when you see attacks on the guy....they're not coming from OUR side, so might be good not to just digest and repeat.
He might not be everyone's cup of tea - not everyone will have the same taste - but it gets pretty old seeing our side spend three years torching people who work nearly nonstop ON our side. QRV was notorious for it.
Personally, I think Dave (X22) hurt his credibility with the “Political & Geopolitical News” vids. He has absolutely mastered the art of moving the goal post—he’s full of....enthusiastic entertainment! I love listening to the guy though, and yes, in all fairness he does a good job covering what I want to keep up with but there’s a whole lot of wrong in all of it (though I’m no different there I suppose)..
Found the deep state rebel satan-worshiping pedo..
DEPORT
Thank you for posting.
You just gave every single person that reads that trash that this is not over ... if it was, you would be long long gone, and not wasting your time with 'Q crazies'.
CONFIRMATION ANONS ... WE ARE STILL IN THE FIGHT!!!!!
Mod, is a successful deport also ban IP? If not, please consider
Here is a source from 2013 talking about the three city states. Aligned perfectly with what has been going around lately, and makes perfect sense to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeG5549b0Ng&ab_channel=StoneTerrence
Found on this post from October of 2016
https://humansarefree.com/2016/10/the-city-of-londons-re-colonization-of-america.html
This muddies the water - did you not read OP? These things you point to are nowhere in Q. Not saying there's nothing there, but not in play here.
Personally, I'd suggest avoiding sources which are known to be poisoned wells (e.g. parks the guy that bangs aliens & talks on the phone with Q) as you run the real risk of infesting the poison & tainting your knowledge base with disinformation that can & will be used against you if yiu repeat it...
You only say that because you didn't study enough to see things that were predicted actually come to pass.
Plenty. But I'm not going to devote hours to show you what you could find by starting at the beginning and reading. Been there, done that. We're so close now that it doesn't even matter.
"it" what? Show me the Q post that gives a date regarding what's happening right now
This, in my opinion, is the BIGGEST problem with the movement. What came to pass that rocked the world and validated tens of thousands of anons that spent countless hours working tirelessly to become village idiots at the drop of a hat? Anything? Nothing? Why—because it hasn’t started yet!!! We were chosen to explain to normies what is coming...once it comes. Look around; does LITERALLY any of this seem “normal”? Now ask why...
Q allowed me (and many of you) to use FB/TWTR to warn those I care about for the coming YEARS. This isn’t just about corruption, slander, money laundering, and war profits. Soon, all of the things i relayed to others will begin to make sense (granted some of it is misinterpreted—or horribly wrong) but from all of that the most important thing happened: they began thinking for themselves. Regardless of their chosen sources, they questioned everything!!
The thing with that situation is that it was set up in a way that is very convoluted and very hard to nail down exactly what was done to The United States sovereignty. Wrapped in legal babble and constantly moving and trading owners.. US got "sold down the river" basically and it would take a business genius to figure it out and break US free. I have faith that President Trump IS THAT GENIUS. Listen to his last speech to us, lots of tidbits about returning America to to the people. He has also has hinted at fixing this over and over long before he even became President. I enjoy watching older videos of him talking about what he would / could do if he or other great people were in charge. I can have hope right?
Yes I believe that most other countries have also done the same. Order out of chaos. Except the chaos was created so that the banks could step in at the right time to be the saviors to restore order.
My country (Germany) was also sold out. People were talking since earlier than 2010 about the BRD GmbH (German Corporation). I was perplexed when I heard the same thing about the USA a few days ago. I don't think the whole corporation thing is on point. What definitively can be stated is that countrys gave up their sovereignty by entering a centralized banking system. For Normies that is not easy to comprehend because they don't understand the absolutely insane power of gold backed currency.
https://fremdbestimmt.com/
No,. I did not imply that.
and their avenues of control like world bank, imf, vatican bank
O.One can fairly accurately predict where the US will go to war based on the country's central banking status...
which might explain why the central bankers "own" the world. Now they are trying to meld it all together into one world gov.
Only a few countries in the world don't have a rothschild controlled central bank.
That's why you have to try and track down ALL the info you can about the 1871 Act, as well as research and analyse what happened in the decades after.
I don't claim to know anything, but form my view, a return to pre-1871 Constitution is coming. Whether it's already happened or not, I don't know.
The shitty part is that you have to take a highly nuanced approach and look at it thru a Game of Thrones type lens. And that style allows for the claim that it's all just a "theory." Which, I think in this case, is the wrong way to look at it.
Nothing magical happened in 1871. DC was incorporated. That’s it.
Bingo! DC IS incorporated. Now go read the the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1801.
DC was originally Washington City created in July 1790. It was created as a federal DISTRICT, part of the US but run by the Federal Government with land donated by Maryland and Virginia but controlled by the Federal Government. Think of it like any Federal Land existing in a state today - it is OWNED by the state but is run and managed by the Federal Government.
In 1801 under the previous mentioned Organic Act it was changed to be an independent federal city under the purview of the Federal Government.
[As an aside: the Organic Act of 1801 was established to set the ground for ushering in a second attempt at a private central bank which was prefaced by the war of 1812 to put the US in a financial bind and thus establish the second central bank, which Andrew Jackson would become famous for destroying the "den of vipers and thieves"]
In 1871 it was incorporated as part of the Banking Act (meant to enslave the US to debt) they created a Constitution under the guise of the city constitution, which under the 1801 Act become the federal seat of power. That Constitution they created happens to be the Constitution we use today because they enjoined it to the Federal seat of Power and thus the entire US.
[This was now the THIRD attempt to lay the groundwork for a private central bank, known as the Federal Reserve. The bankers didn't rush it as fast as they did the second central bank and, at least, took 30 years this time before enslaving us with the Federal Reserve and the IRS]
Anyone here who says otherwise has not done their homework on this and does not know what they are speaking about. I happened to have done a research paper on this in college and spent a good four months buried in research on this (in libraries since there was no internet then).
The USA is, in fact, a corporation captured under the Incorporation of the city of DC which over-rode the existing Constitution for the States because DC was previously set up to be the seat of Federal Power. This was all done through very subtle sleight-of-hand
Of all of the topics which I hold in cognitive dissonance, this is the one that I see as having the highest probability of being valid. It lines up with some of POTUS Trump's subtle hints & is in line with the slithering enemy's tricks/tactics...
Thank you for taking the time to write this up & share your knowledge on the subject, patriot.
PS - Do you happen to have a copy of that paper to share?? I for one am interested in reading it to learn more. Thanks!
I'd have to dig through my attic as I wrote this paper in 1985 on a very modern Smith-Corona typewriter.
When I took a year elective of American Political History, I honestly never thought it would be so helpful in the future. I just looked at it as something I had interest in and needed to do for the credits.
Now, with everything going on these last four years, I am amazed how much this course has meant to me and disseminating knowledge to my fellow patriots.
Q did point to questions regarding the Titanic sinking and who died. We all know the story of the bankers, who opposed the Fed, going down with the ship. I still see the merit of digging into this topic. My problem is where to look. Who is reputable? Too many competing theories for me to grasp what actually happened. I was actually researching it almost a year ago. I went to so many sites. That is how I noticed so many of those websites hocking precious metals. But seriously...I am at a loss for where to look as so many people weave different stories.
This is not a theory accepted by any court or mainstream jurist in the United States.
What you just said makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
What does any of what I just posted (which none of is theory since you can look up all the acts on government websites) have to do with courts or juries?
Do you even remotely understand what you are reading?
It may not make sense to you; your account of legal history, nonetheless, is not accepted by anyone in the legal establishment as an accurate description of... well... anything.
If you think the term 'jurist' refers to juries, that's an excellent sign that your acquaintance with the law is so remote as to render your understanding of legal history worthy of your own distrust.
I do. I'm a lawyer. Your account of legal history is accepted by nobody in the legal establishment. No credible lawyers; no legal historians; no jurists; no court.
I read that act of 1871, none of that is involved, it is just about reorganizing the DC government. Read the law, it's publicly available. They talk about paying back people who loaned them money, that's it.
Something about V.K. Durham ??♂️
as an aside, this is the best scenario. I think the fed is the root of all these endless wars and mortgaging of our futures/lives
I found this info back in 2012 regarding the Original USA vs the US Corporation...
http://www.usavsus.info/
Agree
"there were no kids pulled from underground"
Q never said there were, but it is also untrue to say that you KNOW there have been no kids pulled from underground. Because...you don't actually know that. It's your opinion.
Of everything I have read, it is the notion of these children being abducted, abandoned, mistreated, raped and murdered that I find most concerning. It’s hard to discern truth from lies, but it does seem possible that there is evidence of what is described as a snuff film with Hillary and Huma on Weiner’s laptop. Weiner’s laptop with images that may be one of Obama’s daughters? The child falling out of Buckingham Palace with people on the street reacting. Could it be pieced together bits of film or some sort of sick LARP? Sure. The one thing I’ve learned is that I doubt everything now, except my faith and my gut. The photos of children tied up, the USB port with pages of children’s names? If fake, may whoever did that burn in hell, because I am sure there are parents trying desperately to scroll through and see if their child’s name is on that list. And let us not forget the what I can only describe as “satanic” imagery in Beyoncé shows, J Lo shows, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. The imagery matches photos sprawled all over the net. Are you telling me the images of the children with black eyes are fake? God that would be great. But then I look at Lady Gaga’s album covers with black eyes and dripping blood and I want to puke. Last, as a Roman Catholic, the pagan idols in the Vatican were disturbing enough. Then the golden winged Moluch?? Really?? He’s not my pope (lower case “p,” he doesn’t deserve anything else). Haven’t you ever wondered, “How had the Catholic Church gotten away with all of this for so long?” So if anyone can add truth to this discussion please do. Last, I was on a call with someone who I mentioned the DUMBs to and they gasped. Why? Because every time they drive through a mountain tunnel near one in PA on their way to the Pocanos, they said they get a very disquieting feeling, live malevolence. This is not someone who is out for drama. Sorry for the long post, but it’s the info about the kids that bothers me the most.
The human trafficking thing is LEGIT as it gets. Every year we have mandatory in-service training for our peace officer’s license and most years centered around narcotics and gangs and stuff. All of a sudden, about 8 years or so ago, there was a heavy focus on human trafficking. At first, we were like, “What the hell is this crap?” Over time, we realized how big it was.
I recall a long time ago....I had to look this guy's name up. Phil Schneider. Spoke about the US being riddled with underground tunnels. Now he had spoken about a LOT of things over the years, but it might have been that this was a dangerous subject because he didn't last long after he began speaking about them. Found him - here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slgb5U-OqFM
Thank you for sending the link. I remember watching it in the past, but had forgotten about it. He says some “crazy” stuff, but some of it fits the world we live in today or would not be surprising. Doesn’t mention kids, but mentions aliens. I have to wonder... is it not that they are seeing aliens, but that they are seeing demonic forces? I often wonder what really happened back in the ?1500s to prompt a pope to write the prayer to St. Michael about “thrusting into hell satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.” At any rate.... a compelling presentation made all the more so by the ever prolific “suicide.” Who knew there were so many depressed? Who specifically said they were NOT suicidal? Thanks again for sending.
I do recall seeing a video of some National Guards taking an oath that sounded pre-1871, not sure if that has any relevance, but it is something that could back up certain ideas if true.
That would be the easiest way to tear down the corrupt system...repealing everything would take generations.
It's outrageous how much traction this theory is getting without significant push back. It literally came out of nowhere. It's now every second post and being discussed as gospel by all the major vloggers and podcasters acroos the Q community.
I found research on the us as a corporation from Jordan Maxwell long before the Q people started talking about it.
But imagine for a second it were true. True that Trump found a way to "save the world" Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
lol you are an actual retard if you think trump, who can't even manage to follow a written speech, can't speak in public without praising himself and stroking his ego is out to "save the world" dude he barely even tried to help the hurricane victims from Puerto Rico which share our american blood lol. You all are corrupt assholes and dont really care about anyone else you just want to feel important or helpful when in reality you are terrorists that are bringing the downfall of our democracy and doubting everything good about our country. Focus on the shitty parts like billionaires running our elections with money via Citizens United. Look into REAL problems and not fake pedophile rings in the government and small pizza businesses you lunatics
I bet you watch the news and read newspapers
So you didn’t see who was fired for “hiding” the hurricane disaster aid in PR? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/puerto-rico-residents-outraged-after-discovering-warehouse-full-unused-aid-n1118501
u/omgtrumpwon and u/deapstayterebel, I’m glad you spend so much time here reading all these comments. :) Can’t wait to set my calendar for 6 months and find out you got red pilled. See ya then!
It did not come out of nowhere. Look into Fritz Springmeier. Predates Q by decades.
Its a “contagion” much like the bizarre expectation that Biden et al would be whisked away, arrested on television instead of inaugurated. People have been conditioned by Hollywood more than they realize.
The crushing disappointment, doom, and supporters peeling away is a self-generated collapse based on almost singular focus and “predictions” that Q never made. You have to wonder if these are intentionally injected to destroy us.
We’re facing an unfathomable future so people are grasping at straws. Trump stepping away pulled the rudder off the ship. We are rather adrift and vulnerable.
Too much investment in this US Corp theory instead of the brazen election fraud and a very very dangerous MSM-Big Tech empire.
Agree. Power/money/corruption/influence. It’s that simple.
+, ++, +++ We all looked into these guys and look what we learned. See above.
I just see so many people that keep looking for the mystery boogeymen from ancient times that control the world with their puppet strings. The reality is that it is just a bunch of corrupt turds.
I get tired of this being stickied. I'm like show me some proof. Got crickets.
3 things you should keep in mind always:
Q job is not to fully inform the general population, and definitely not to tell us the whole plan.
But if you can imagine this: Guy 1 who has the keys to understand acts accordingly. Guys 2 under him who understands less see he's acting and they do their part. Guys 3 see guys 2, and so on.
So lets say the general population is guys 15, we don't know much at all.
Now there is some confusing stuff that don't make any sense without Q. Like why and how would the whole of government be corrupted?? Why would ALL the media be controlled? How could Obama be tried for treason?
So think of it as a movie, based on real life. Now what can you do? well if you were supposed to do something it would be very clear to you from the messages.
If nothing is clear then "have a good life"
What I found from Q that I can do is to ease pain of swallowing the pill, and that some will never accept.
You just have to realize that they are fighting for you to have a good life away from evil and keeps the operators in harms' way in your prayers.
Also most of those who tries to interpret Q will fail, for do you think those with the keys would risk the fate of the world for internet karma points? and how many do you think actually has all the keys? and do you think a general only has one plan or multiple plans depending on how the situation develops?
Q job is to tell us they are fighting for us, that good will triumph over evil, and when evil attempt to make us fight against good, don't be fooled.
Evil will try to make us fight against good, soon & now.
Great, practical perspective. Excellent summary.
yet you people are willing to kill them and the capitol police to throw a revolt in the US capitol. Scumbags
You will always be a man
It's hard to be the ones that start the bandwagon.. it's easy for people to jump on.. Think of all of us as the ones starting it.
'To be sane in an insane world, one must appear to be insane.' I too have been backing up the truck on PMs for quite some time now (pre-Q). The writing has been on the wall...
Agreed. Stickies lend credence. If you only want to drive discussion just upvote so it’ll go to the top.
My real hope is to see people get back on track and not go off into the wild conspiracies. Some conspiracies end up being true, no doubt, but I see too many people going off the deep end.
I'm in general agreement. The corporation and NESARA/GESARA stuff makes me cringe due to the lack of evidence.
However one thing I'm not in agreement with as I suppose you just missed it.
They're likely talking out there asses as far as regeneration machines, but Q definitely has talked about cures already being available and even mentions cancer and AIDS specifically. Q also talks about medical researchers being "found dead". I presume to cover up the cures.
https://qagg.news/?read=693
Make sure the list of resignations remains updated.
Important.
When does big pharma make money?
Curing or containing?
Cancer/AIDS/etc.
Mind will be blown by chain of command.
Q
https://qagg.news/?read=694
What if cures already exist?
What about the billions (public/private/govt) provided to fund cure dev?
Sheep.
These people are sick!
Q
https://qagg.news/?read=695
How many top medical researchers found dead in past 5 years?
Why is this topic relevant now?
Why does the US taxpayer subsidize meds for the rest of the world?
Q
ThanQ
You sir are an actual Q researcher. Nailed it.
Aw shucks.
100% agree with you. BigPharma, cure vs treatment, dead researchers.
I failed to elaborate b/c my OP was getting WAY too long. My point I should have made is that I ran across too many videos and website articles that had a “Q theme” in them that pushed this nonsense utopia cure-all crap. I’m certain there are plenty of hidden away real cures and technologies, but we ain’t living forever.
My little joke.
"There is a drug dealer on every corner. They go by names like CVS, Walgreens, and Rite Aid."
Billions and billions of dollars.
Most people don't really understand what a paid shill is. Much of the BS you describe is grifters hijacking Q to promote their poison, and unfortunately, too many fall for this. Very solid post please stick around we really need more people like you around here.
On forums like these you should come in with the understanding that 99% of stuff is just trolls trolling trolls.
I think researching the source material directly and independently is the correct approach regardless of context. Discussion in a public forum is used to test your theories and refine them. Ultimately I think most people don't have the time to do this and just end up parroting whatever refills their hopium supply. The USA corporation thing is the latest example of this and literally came out of nowhere.
To say the USA corporation thing "literally came out of nowhere," is strange. Are you sure? Is it possible that what came out of "nowhere" is your awareness to this information.
It seems there is an epidemic of people discounting information or facts because such information is new, not being covered by the MSM, or even contrary to the popular or main stream narrative.
If a narrative supports a person's perspective, it easy for them to embrace and similarly, if information undermines a person's understanding, it easy for them to dismiss. That's when you find the messenger being attacked, because you cannot attack the message.
But opening your mind and learning new things is not always easy. While, from your perspective the United States as a corporation "literally came out of nowhere," have you considered that others have been aware of it for far longer than you?
Isn't it reasonable that difficult things to understand or accept take a long time to get traction?
I am not telling you what to believe, I am just suggesting your perspective that the United States as a corporation "came out of nowhere," may just be that, your perspective, while others may have been fully aware of it for a very long time.
Again, remember Q asked questions for others to find answers to open their minds and learn that which seemingly "came out of nowhere," to the uninformed, or unaware.
It seems to me when information seemingly comes out of "nowhere", it's certainly worthy of a look, and one should look, research and question until they have satisfied themselves, one way or the other.
Anyone not willing to dig, explore, question and look for answers about information that seemingly "comes out of nowhere," or even seems outrageous, has chosen to be fixed in their ideas (perhaps because it gives them comfort, who knows), simply they are not open to learning.
Food for thought.
I love it.
I don’t put my full faith into every thing Q says. I don’t think Q would want us to anyhow. I also think it is important to research as many other topics as we can.
I think it is great that people are looking into the US CORPORATION angle. However, whether there is any merit to it is yet to be seen. I first ran across the concept of that and Admirality Law months ago and looked into it for a while but there was so much disagreement that I moved on.
After DJT’s election was stolen (coup) and after the artificial goalposts were pushed back a few times, I observed its reemergence in big way. People were desperate to find another theory that suited them that would get Trump back on their timeline. I actually think it would be hilarious if the Corp thing was all true. Coming from years in the legal system, I don’t see it working if it was true. Judges, attorneys, and cops are so resistant to change and the legal system is a whole other swamp to drain.
It’s the SAME swamp. Follow the money. What part of ‘the US is a corporation that prints unlimited amounts of its own money’ would you consider not worth prioritizing?
lol that's the definition of schizophrenia. Looks to symbols and hints in things that arent meant to be messages lmfao. You all are absolutely bat shit crazy
Nice hand shake shill.
When you can’t attack the message, you attack the messenger.
First, you demonstrated ignorance by defining a psychological disease without bothering to look it up.
Second, you literally attack something that was not mentioned in my post e.g. symbols.
Finally, you attempt to diminish the value of the message by attacking the messenger AND turning said messenger to into some amorphous, previously undefined group e.g. “You all are bay shit crazy.”
Why don’t you try thinking for a change. Ask some questions look for answers. Try it, you might find it serves you.
Attacking the thoughtful people on this board serves no purpose. Your baseless rants don’t challenge their well researched, well thought out understandings.
If you have something of value to add, add it. Otherwise, you’re a waste of space.
Take a look at the discussions here
https://greatawakening.win/p/11SJoYh27p/dan-scavino-posted-this-on-his-s/c/
There may be more to it than you think, then again it could just be a pipe dream.
Take a look at the references from this page: https://www.educatedinlaw.org/2019/02/united-states-is-a-federal-corporation-says-u-s-code-title-28/
Came out of nowhere? It started with the Organic Act of 1801, then the Banking Act of 1871 and finally with the Reserve Act of 1913 that created the Federal Reserve.
So something that took 112 years to come to fruition did not "come literally out of nowhere".
I would not say it came out if nowhere but I would say it is picking up traction because people are feeling the financial pinch. Kind of like UBI.
My thought is that both Q and Trump saying many times "The best is yet to come" leaves it open for us to imagine and create a future(now) where so many wonderful things will happen. Such as being free from the bonds of the USA Inc, disclosure of withheld technologies, new and better monetary system(s), better and more advanced health and medicine. There is a ton of things that have been withheld from the general populous because it was of no benefit to our old rulers. Remove those rulers and the possibilities are endless. The "Plan" as I understand it is to remove those who were in power that do not have every ones best interest in mind.
P.S. Most of those old rulers were sick and stupid anyway, as Q has stated. Good riddance!
"Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political system, with a new government, controlled by you the American people." - DJT Count the Q drops that say to listen to this speech very carefully. Why? Because it is "the plan".
THIS^^^
Some of the core concepts of NES/GES make sense. I don’t have a problem with a lot of it. I just see a lot of people looking too deep into it and making awkward and illogical conclusions.
Everyone has their assignments - and they follow them. That's as it should be. No need for everyone to have identical specialties.
That’s completely logical. It’s the Keep It Simple Stupid approach and makes the most sense. I thinks our research often leads many of us too deeply down the rabbit hole and we just need to back out a bit and keep our eyes on the prize. Draining the swamp, ridding the major corruption, enforcing effective laws, and fixing the economy will provide enormous opportunities rather than searching for boogeymen to blame for all our problems.
Except that there ARE boogeymen. The Satanist Cabal is real. Ritual child sacrifice is real. One of Pompeo's most recent posts, decoded, spelled "Female sacrifice ring". This overarching power structure is massive, incredibly dark, and totally bizarre by our standards. Q has been clear about the reality of these "Boogeymen".
Even good things that have been hidden are probably pretty weird.
The idea that the end of all this will be ANYTHING like "normal" or even "logical" is probably about as incorrect as you can get.
Please do not think I am trying to discredit what you are saying. As a Christian, I believe there are satanic influences and ritual child sacrifice exits. I don’t even need to hear it from Q either...though Q has mentioned it a number of times.
My point here is that the above reply’s were discussing US Corp and NESARA and then BAM...you threw in satanic cabal and ritual child sacrifice. Those comments, while true to an extent, often hijack a thread about a specific/separate topic. It drives people away. Those that know about that stuff already know but those otherwise interested in the topic at hand will take off and not come back.
Sorry - do not mean to hijack atall - was merely pointing at the idea that if we stick to what we feel is logical or normal-sounding (to us) we're probably going to miss a lot. The very idea of "crazy-sounding conspiracy theory"...well that's gone right out the window, huh? Along with what we thought was reality.
I've actually redpilled a lot of people IRL (who then went on to redpill many others) by telling them the WHOLE truth. Kinda figure it's giving them the benefit of the doubt. You know that meme "You can't HANDLE the truth!"? I'd rather give them all of it and let them decide than choose for them, ya know?
I don't know what it is about the topic (the stuff about kids), but it's one of the few things that has really gotten people to research for themselves.
As for NESARA and the corporation - the corporation thing would not surprise me at all. The Cabal thrives on legalese and loopholes and subversion of justice through obscure laws they pass. Torpedo our nation through some sneaky law? Yeah, they'd do it. It just meshes with how they do things. That much I DO know.
NESARA: I know people who have had debts erased. That doesn't happen. Ever. That alone put the topic back on the table so far as I'm concerned
This is a quality post that deserves a sticky. Indont make any Q proofs my self, some are VERY interesting, some other garbage. If you accept Q is real, not a LARP, then you know there's a plan. Lets be patient.
Briefly, because I need to work:
NESARA/GESARA are nice ideas. Will they come to pass? That's gonna take a huge dose of hopium for me to believe it. Same with the US CORPORATION stuff.
The miracle cures -- the Rife machines, etc. - from my limited perspective are "meh." The lizard people too - sauce or gtfo is my motto.
HOWEVER -- DJT's father (or was it grandfather) was reportedly part of a team that cataloged and assessed Tesla's inventions. Tesla was a visionary. It wouldn't take much for me to believe that somewhere, there's some vault with his stuff in it.
I go back to what Pilate wrote over Jesus' cross when I think of the Q drops: "What I have written, I have written." I think we're best served by doing our best to interpret the bread crumbs in light of what's going on these days. Anything else IMHO is pure distraction.
I'm prepared, however, to cheerfully admit that I'm wrong. :D
That was DJT's Uncle.
It was his uncle. Jon Trump ... and that did in fact happen. It's not bullshit. E. Hover had him review the Tesla papers the FBI stole (and they did steal them) from his hotel room in the Waldorf
The lizard people thing is a 'plant' to make us look like idiots.
I use it as a code for people who worship Satan.
True. The automotive/oil/energy industries are a prime example. They have a long history of buying up patents that protect their interests and hold us back. Better technologies vs profits. We still aren’t getting flying cars though. :)
I don’t want to completely discount many of the Tesla theories. Could be true. However, the quacks come out of the woodwork and rain discredit on things that could logically happen.
This Q board has a good search feature. Looking for cures, cancer yields quite a few drops where Q raised the question if cures exist and some on Covid cures or prevention. Good questions overall but when observing what congress and the courts DO vs what I think they should be doing, little time is spent on things to help us. Lots of time demonizing much of the population. Why? I believe most are corrupted, compromised, or evil. https://qalerts.app/
there is no such thing as a "conspiracy fact" you dumb sack of crap. Thats what a CONPIRACY IS. Look up the definition of things before you start creating new terms that are completely redundant. You sound like a tard like the rest of these Qcumber terrorist lunatics
Our Constitution must be restored. What then? If the Xiden mob is illegitimate, what else is illegitimate? How did all of this come about? I watched President Trump become more and more constitutional as his first term progressed. I have no doubt that he and Q are well aware of the Organic Act which was probably the first overthrow of our government. Consider the digging they had to do to find lawful remedies that were usable but had been pretty much hidden.
People don't know this because of our abysmal public fool system and the intentional effort to dumb the American people down--that is FACT. I suspect that, if this is within their plan, it will be revealed. Much of what they do is not revealed and for good reason.
The Organic Act is fact, as is the Enabling Act in 1934 that took away our common law (constitutional) and replaced it with the fraud that we have had for some years in our courts where there is no justice, they have no jurisdiction and no real authority except what an ignorant people give them.
My purpose, when I comment about these things, is to awaken the American people. They have NO idea what their responsibilities and duties are. Merely voting just doesn't cut it. Who chooses the candidates that will run? Who vets these people to be true constitutional candidates? And now we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vote-counters have been busy little rats for a long time.
If normies and even patriots are not very upset and don't see reasons for fear of what Xiden et al could do, how will the people ever take back their country, especially at the local level where everything becomes relevant? Do we have republican forms of government at the state level? At the local level? Not in my state.... AT ALL.
Our Republic is unique and it REQUIRES our well-informed participation. We do not have a "Set it and forget it" kind of government. President Trump said many times that he needs the people's help as well.
A reset back to 1870 would wipe the slate pretty clean. People who have a lot of foundational knowledge understand this--those of us who have been looking at all of this for years. Down-vote me as you will but the facts remain that there is a lot more going on than meets the eye.
I never discount people’s sound theories about our government and school systems being corrupted. I’ve always been an avid reader of history. As an example, I constantly argue with others about the causes of the Civil War taught in school today vs what was taught prior to the 1960s. I wouldn’t ever downvote your post b/c you have a logical argument. My point in this thread was people taking these topics too far. I have an open mind. ATM, there is too much confusion floating about regarding these Acts/Laws/US Corp etc.
I appreciate that. As I said, we've known these things for at least 20 years, probably more. Our history, which has been swept aside, shows many traitorous things done by our government rats. Our Founders charged succeeding generations with teaching these things. Many recognize the outright marxism being taught in school now but it's been going on for a long time.....all by design.
BOOM ???!!! You sir, nailed it perfectly!
Thank you. (I am not a sir, though....LOL!)
With the genetics thing, powers that be have used both SJWs and fundamentalist evangelicals to make sure the tech isn't used here. "ETHICS" has held humanity back and made us suffer..meanwhile the elite spirit cook and have pizza parties
it's called CRISPR and it's a chinese procedure you dumb piece of trash. It's widely reported on and the only doctor to have done this in secret eventually was caught and jailed so stfu you all say you research things but cant even find the most obvious and basic things like CRISPR. That is genuinely fucked up and you are mentally handicapped
Also, another quick one on the current Constitution for USA Inc. vs. the American Republic.
Q references RESTORING Old Glory (#4469, #3907, #2437 and #2436).
Old Glory was a nickname for our flag at a time when we were still under the original Constitution. It was abolished in 1871 with the Act that created our new Constitution.
In Q post #3907 and #2436 (#3907 is a report of #2436) Q states: This is about restoring OLD GLORY. Later in the post Q says: We are UNITED in these STATES OF AMERICA.
The reason that last statement is important is the original Constitution was not called "The Constitution of the United States", which was the version implemented AFTER the Act of 1871. The original Constitution was in fact titled: "Constitution of the United States of America." THE was not in the title and OF AMERICA was dropped. You can see this subtle change by referencing the third paragraph of the Bill of Rights to see EXACTLY what our Founding Fathers called the Consitution.
In Q #2437, Q clearly states: RETURN OLD GLORY TO HER FORMER STATE. Now, what would the 'former state' of Old Glory be? The Constitution BEFORE the 1871 Act changes that made us USA Inc.
Q post #4469 explains what Old Glory meant in an example of the Civil War. Q refers to it as 'The Flag of Lincoln." Why is this. Because work for the ratification began under Lincoln's successor, Andrew Johnson, and was completed and signed into law by Ulysses S. Grant (the 18th and last President of the American Republic).
So, in a nutshell when asked about the previous Republic Constitution vs. USA Inc. this is where it comes from.
I’ll just throw this out there. My opinion only. If we were a CORPORATION like many say, and are controlled by a small group of elites in London or whatever, why can’t we just give them the finger and move on? You don’t think Trump couldn’t have Soros/Rothschilds/others eliminated in the blink of an eye if he deemed it so? If the Vatican or City of London held as much power as we are told, would it be logical to just stop cooperating? They have no military power over us. We could make our economy recover much more effectively than they could. I’ll admit that I am not fully educated on these topics but I feel they are blown out to be bigger than they are. I think they have enormous influence but not total control. I’ll eat humble pie if I learn otherwise.
Trump is definitely a Constitutionalist. This is more than about the world powers that seek to enslave us. The current structure in the US actually FLIPPED what the Founding Fathers had established.
The Federal Government was meant to have VERY little power. In fact, the power of the Feds was meant to be less than that of the States. The best way to think of it was that the states were the power and the Feds were the "shared services" that would make all of it hold together.
Trump aims to restore the power structure the way it was meant to be - thus why he let the states handle their approach to the "scandemic".
The problem with the structure our Founding Fathers established, was that it would make it difficult for a private central bank to assume control. This was very intentional.
As you dig into this you will learn our original Constitution had THREE documents - the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Continental Congressional Clauses. The last bit there is very hard to find information anywhere and I only know about them from a research project in 1985 looking into some old books on American Political History.
There is a reason Q once told us to look at a history book from 20 years ago, 10 years ago and five years ago. I took more away from this post than most, I guess, because of the deep research I did in 1985 and was shocked to learn we had an additional document to the Constitution.
You see, this document severely limited the powers of the Governments in America.
Some examples of what is contained in these clauses:
1.) The Marines - Remember when Q asked us the purpose of the Marines and who they report to. Well, they were created by the Founding Fathers with the sole purpose of defending against piracy on land or sea (defined as government officials using their position to loot or benefit from the looting of the public treasury), which was listed as the highest form of treason, and against treason itself. Yes, folks, the Marines were created to be the watchdogs against government crime and corruption. The thought being that any citizen could join the Marines and thus put themselves in a position to guard against government corruption.
2.) Limitations on Taxation - The clauses specifically forbid any government (local, state of federal) from taxing income or property. Look where we are today and now you know why this document had to disappear with the Banking Act of 1871. This was setup to PREVENT bankers and rulers from stealing from the people. While the Constitution says Congress has the power to tax, the Clauses specifically say on imports from foreign countries only.
3.) Penalties for Treason - I mentioned the causes of treason above, the penalties were: one offense - immediate removal of citizenship and banishment and removal from US soil. Two of more offenses - Death. There is no alternative for prison as they wanted people afraid of treason.
4.) Bill of Rights Amendments - Congress was forbidden for making any changes to the Bill of Rights that changed government policy (such as the 16th and 17th Amendments). The purpose of this was that the Founding Fathers knew the danger of allowing the Government to be in charge of how they operate.
5.) Manet In Aeternum - This is the most important. These clauses were listed as being eternal and NEVER allowed to be modified or changed. You can see how this was the big stickler for the central banks to seize control and why the modified Constitution had to come into existence.
Barring the previous examples I gave, the burying of this document gave way to the most dynamic changing Amendment to our governmental structure - the 17th Amendment - where we since then have voted Senators in like Congressional Representatives.
Notice now there is no difference in the House or the Senate in how things are done. This was NEVER meant to be but the bankers needed it to seize control of our country. Prior to the 17th Amendment, Senators were appointed by the state and party affiliation never mattered because they were basically glorified errand people, If a law was passed in the House, the Senators would take it back to their state to be voted on in a manor consistent with the state laws. Some states would put a vote to the people, others may simply have their state legislatures vote. Whichever way the state did it, however, the Senators simply came back to Washington and voted how their state decided.
Do you see why this was a problem for the bankers? They could bribe Senators to vote how they wanted, but it was impossible to bribe every state legislature or citizen. It is no coincidence that right after the Federal Reserve Act was passed the 16th and 17th Amendments (which, if you really do research on were illegally ratified = do you really think the States approved of losing their power?) were passed.
There is more to this, but this comment has gone long enough. Hopefully I shed a little more light on our current dilemma for fellow Patriots.
There is a big difference in older vs newer history books. I stated this before, but here is an example. Prior to the Civil Rights movement in the 50s and 60s, the causes for the Civil War were mainly about unfair tariffs and taxation implemented on the South. The money collected was spent mostly on Northern infrastructure and Northern cities. During and after the Civil War, the primary cause was all about slavery...period. Don’t even dare say otherwise or you are racist.
You can read hundreds of soldier’s letters from the time period on both sides and you would be hard pressed to find any mentioning slavery. They mainly discussed taxes/tariffs, defending the Constitution, their state, or protecting their homes from invasion. Slavery was a reason but it was way further down the list than we are taught today.
To your point, the system was rigged one way or another a long time ago.
100% speculation. You are suggesting that we stopped calling the flag OLD GLORY after 1871?
This is what we are talking about. Nice idea ... ZERO proof. Speculation and conjecture only.
I didn't suggest that we stopped calling it that, I referenced Q posts above. It is very clear to anyone with an IQ higher that a cabbage, that when someone says returning something to it's FORMER STATE it means before the state it is currently in.
Vocabulary 101. If you want further proof, do some digging in the dictionary and look up the word FORMER. Since most Anons are fairly intelligent, I didn't think I needed to provide proof of what the word FORMER means.
Finally, I give a detailed explanation above of why it is different today than before 1871 if you are looking for more information.
I'm new to Q. Thanks for the info/confirmation
First, and I'm sure you can across this Q post (don't remember the drop #) "Be careful who you follow." I'm sure you've figured out by now the difference between a Paytriot and a Patriot?
Second, Nesara/Gesara are the same twisted, bloated, swamp creature creation. One is for National implementation, the other Global. Easy to figure out if you research the topics. So, it's a hard pass for me.
Third, it's real easy to get caught up in the hype. Try hard to discern for yourself thru your own independent research. You're on the right path, keep it going.
Fourth, as for the Constitution, it is fact that the Act of 1871 changed what we "think" is law. A return to the original Constitution (pre-1871), I believe, is what Q is referring to. Start with researching this aspect, along with the creations of the Fed, IRS, and SSA. The picture will become clear fairly quickly, if you're as smart and astute as I think you are. The bread crumbs on this, Trump's EO's, and Q's posts point collectively to a return to pre-1871 Constitutionality. Q does ask for the definitions of Admiralty Law and Natural Law and their distinctions. The 1871 Act and all the breads related to it is key here.
Fifth, by skipping 8chan and 8kun, you miss a lot of high quality info. I suggest you go to 8kun and find Patriots Fight. There's TONS of info in there, all stickied and correlated for our reading enjoyment. The best thing for the newer folks, I think, is to disregard the more "colorful" speech. It is, after all, a Free Speech site. If you're not used to that kind of banter, it can be somewhat overwhelming for the newbies. Not that you are one, per se, but you will be over there.
As for the opinions of others, including mine, they're like assholes. I'm sure you're aware of that. That's why Q is adamant about doing your OWN independent research. So take even my reply with a grain of salt. Your God given talent of Discernment will tell you if what your reading is accurate, based on your understanding of the situation.
You've managed to do a lot, and not get caught up with the hopium,doom, or ranpant date fagging with only a year or so into this, which in my view is phenomenal. Keep it up. It'll help a lot to avoid date fagging. While also managing NOT to engage in Social Media? That in itself is awesome. It's hard for us to stay quiet, logical, and free thinking at times. I think it's because it's part of humanity's nature to be collectivist with the sharing and dissemination of info AND opinion. EVERYONE wants to be right, and NO ONE likes to be wrong. That's why sites like GAW and the Chans, etc exist.
That's my two cents, anyway, for what it's worth. Glad to have you aboard! We need more like you.
Now, I have a question for you:
In your PROFESSIONAL and PERSONAL opinions, what the Hell is going on in our LEO agencies? I know what I see, hear, and read. I have family and friends that are cops and am always curious to hear the views of others.
I started when deputies were still using pagers, maps (no GPS), and revolvers so I have seen a lot of changes. I would have crawled through glass for my original leadership but the culture abruptly changed around the time Obama came in. We started to have to go to sexual harassment training and other nonsense. Over time, the fast promoters and kiss asses worked their way up and they were lousy cops to begin with. The camera phone spelled the end. Criminals started to get away with so much shit it was unreal.
The big problem I see with how officers are being held back from enforcing good laws or forced to enforce Unconstitutional rules is how they are disciplined if they disobey. All officers swear an oath and the vast majority WANT to honor that oath. However, if they disobey an order they can be placed on a 3 month unpaid leave/suspension and due to dept policy/civil service rules cannot gain temp employment. They stand to lose their house, car, etc. That’s how they get you. Follow our orders or follow your oath and lose it all.
The system is rigged that way. Most cops are amazing people in a bad situation. I got out just in time and my gray hairs are almost all gone. ?
You're quite right, I have a few researchers whose videos I watch and they stick to what Q has put out, for the most part. But on Voat and on here I'd frequently see posts where people said "Q said...." something that wasn't in a single one of the Q drops. I try to ignore the Nesara / Gesara nonsense. Q mentioned reforming the Fed, that's about it. As my favorite President has said, "let's see what happens."
Having the opportunity to read every drop and find your own understanding from that exercise is invaluable.
Trying to understand a situation when provided some information can often lead to the discovery of additional information that adds context and meaning to things previously not understood.
I am trying to understand why you, and many people who have commented here, have looked at the Corporation of the United States with abject cynicism. I have done some research into the corporation and thus far, I have not found any information that undermines or counters the facts that have been presented by various sources (including previous litigations).
In my experience research based on given clues, often leads to information previously unknown. I have come to understand that is to be expected, the fact that no one mentioned it before is exactly the reason the research was necessary. The known narrative supports the present understanding. With new information comes a fuller and more complete understanding, perhaps one that some would rather people not have.
Is it just that Q did not explicitly state that a Corp. exists that makes you dubious of the same? Is it the scant amount of information available on the internet?
I am just trying to understand, based on reason and logic, why something that is supported by facts found in statues and seemingly explains much of what has occurred that previously went unexplained or superficially explained, is dismissed by so many.
Has anyone, anyone, found information that demonstrates unquestionably that the United States Corporation was not formed, and is some fable told ... for whatever reason?
If not, isn't it worth exploring until an answer is found, and if no answer can be found, at least until all avenues of research are exhausted?
That people try to monetize their sites in theme with their understandings does not per se undermine the value of the information. I think everyone can agree gold/silver has value, it's not like they are trying to sell air, or pet rocks. I mean, why does the promotion of an actual valuable commodity on the same site that provides seemingly new information make you, or those who have posted similar doubt in comments, dubious of the said information?
To add on to this, the USA INC. is not new news in any regard. It's just not popping up into peoples conciseness now, and I think it's taking people by surprise/the wrong way because they've believed so hard in the America they thought they knew.
It would like be going on Reddit and posting some information from 4chan, while it might correct information, the level of consciousness on Reddit is generally lower than of places like 4chan or 8kun so they will mock and ridicule it because they haven't heard it before.
USA INC. goes deeper as well on the "person" existing in the USA.
Why is your name on your license ALL CAPS?! Ever wondered? Why do we even have drivers license? Did you know you don't technically need one? The white speed limit you see on the side of the rode only applies to "commercial drivers". Why do you need a license if you are not a commercial driver? Are you an Uber driver, a delivery person, or a 18 wheeler driver delivering stuff? If not, then you not need one because you have the right to freely travel as long as you are not doing commerce.
You also do not need to pay taxes, but we have been tricked into it just like getting a license. Look at a dollar bill, on one side you have the US FEDERAL RESERVE stamp, on the other US TREASURY stamp.
You can get your paychecks paid to you in "lawful money" by choosing a side instead of getting a direct deposit you can have all of your earnings given to you tax free. You are not obligated to pay taxes. Look up your state and find the clause where you can get paid in "lawful money".
For example: AZ Statute 23-353(C)
I could go on and on about this stuff, might make a full write up as a post
Further exploration never harmed anyone. The opposite has been the de facto case and how we ended up in this debacle.
I don’t have a problem with the US CORP theory so much as the huge reemergence of the the topic around the time Biden got inaugurated. I have read it before. I have no problem if it turned out to be true. I don’t look into or disregard things based on whether Q mentioned it or not. I just saw the topic coming back in a big way all of a sudden.
Some might call it ... an awakening ?
Qcumber, Bravo! That was the most diplomatic response to OP cognitive bias I have ever read.
I'm 70 and I followed the Q posts from week one. The information and disinformation was real. The posts had two main purposes:
To give autists "crumbs" to research for the purpose of waking people.
To provide disinformation to the deep state in order to panic them into taking actions that were unwise/premature or to mislead them into thinking that something would happen here when actually it happened over there.
So that's Q.
I don't know much about GESARA and NESARA other than what anyone can read. I doubt that it's correct but it's true that the Plan is to put the USA back on a gold standard. Nobody will lose out on this (except those who got their cash illicitly).
ETs are very real. My research over decades suggests that Mars has a small underground population. There might be underground factories employng human slaves. Some Martians live underground (under-mountain) here in Earth.
It goes without saying, therefore, that antigravity craft exist (and have for decades). The ds, I believe, had access to them and I would guess that that's why Trump created the Space Force.
And other ETs live underground on Earth, too. There are dozens of species in our galaxy but the main ones are the small and medium-height greys, the "tall whites" and the aggressive reptilians. Eisenhower signed an agreement with them (under duress) so that they could "borrow" humans for genetic sampling in return for technology. That's partly why we have fiber optics, I.C.s, LEDs and other stuff.
The ETs have a huge influence on the hidden guys who rule over the deep state. They are behind everything. But the Military has been rooting them out - bombing the underground tunnels and cities so most of them are gone.
There's more but I'm not going to divulge it. The horror of it would put people in the mental hospital.
Hi there, may I kindly ask any good sources relating to ET's?
I don't have good solid sources, but I'd begin with SteveQuayle.com. I have chosen not to go too far into that rabbit hole myself, but that's where I'd take it up.
doesnt make sense... if they have anti grav engine... aka warp drive.... which i think could pbly be built for 10% of what the boon doggle at Cern cost..... it would be hard to hide them this long....
also if ETs have that kinda tech the military would be fkd...... they would take total control of the planet in no time... not bombing secret tunnels.....
I agreed with Cooper with some things but I never got on board with some of his Templar and alien stuff. He said some pretty fantastical things. I heard he eventually had to walk some of it back but I got no sauce either way. My logical thinking says if aliens were on this planet, we would be screwed. Not ready to swallow that pill yet.
My basic approach to everything is to catalog it in my mind as having heard it but to be skeptical until I see definitive proof.
I am not sure what to tell you. I am assuming from what you said about Q drops you only read the posts and not the research. Behind every Q post are the bakers that put it all together. On many of the research boards Q was actually there with them and guiding them.
It is on those boards you will find they always had the cure for cancer and many other diseases but it has always been kept hidden from the public by Big Pharma. They will go to any length to keep that information hidden including murder.
If they have not already removed the Q board you will see on most posts there is an 8 digit number most of them start with one. That is where you will find a lot of information. Just to let you know you will see shills there too but the bakers just ignore them for most part.
Trump is ending the fed that is why they tried to kill him at least 8 times in the last few weeks. He will be introducing a new money system that has the gold backing. The end result is no one will be paying any income tax again because with the fed the IRS also disappears. There has also been talk about free energy for everyone.
Yes there are a lot of people on the internet that have jumped on the band wagon. You mentioned Simon Parkes and David Steel there is also Charlie Ward. Even though some of the things they say are iffy they really do have inside knowledge of how the CIA works some of them were CIA.
You mentioned you were a police officer so I am sure you know that even when you retire you will always have people in the force you can get information from. It would be the same for the ex CIA they will always have contacts within the CIA to get information that most people cant get. Don,t just kick them to the curve they can give you a lot of insight.
If you want a real understanding of how the Q posts work look up redpill project on you tube. Josh sounds like an over excited kid but he is 100% at decoding the Q drops which coincided with Trumps tweets, also Pompeo and others and . below is the address for all their videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4QPQJqf3GFm7sBj3YH_https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4QPQJqf3GFm7sBj3YH_TJw
I would not start with the last one go back a few so you can see how he deciphers these codes. We know he is correct because Q has acknowledged him.
As far as the information about the US Corporation and the US republic you can find some of it in the video below which explains what happened and where we are going. Trump put the information about that on the white house.gov site but Biden had it removed as soon as he took over. Sorry I did not save a copy off line.
Scott McKay very informative video https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Qsgm0dqiWKh/
I hope this helps other than that all I can say is go through the boards here and yes I know some posts are way out to lunch but that is because we suddenly got a lot of new people. There are many good posts in here if you have time to go through them.
All the things Trump put on the whitehouse site is archived here http://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/
which document are you referring to? thank you.
Thanks for the reply but my point was that I read and researched EVERY drop and I see so many that either have not or they overembelish or take things too deep. I thinks Scott McKay is a patriot but I cringe every time he mentions his “inside sources”. I watched a few of his vids a while back. He went on about some retired Admiral saying something. My old sheriff was a retired general and she was a dipshit. Steele and Ward have sources too. So what? I could say the same. Would you believe me? I hope not. If Q taught us anything, we must verify.
thank you for the links
The link provided for " Josh " @ YouTube is no longer valid, accessible.
Do you know if his vids are available elsewhere ?
Appreciate your thoughts, post
The Donald told us. "Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political system, with a new government, controlled by you the American people." - DJT Count the Q drops that say to listen to this speech very carefully. Why? Because it is "the plan".
Really good post and i did the same. As it has been stated in the posts we have more than we know. Would love to hear more of your thoughts.
Keeping in mind that Q also never mentioned that people should NOT be looking into other topics, events, or even ideas that appear on the surface to be unconnected to Q. Quite the opposite, in fact.
If people in the Q community want to talk about something of interest - that's okay. It's not as if "if Q didn't SAY it, that means it's not true or won't happen" is a thing.
Each person has their own bias for or against various ideas - that colours yours too, OP. You actually seem to fall into the category that aligns unintentionally with the media's "that's just a weird baseless conspiracy/nothing to see here".
Personally, I think we are about to find out that the world is MUCH weirder than we ever dreamed.
I don’t disagree. I study all sorts of other things too. My main point is that a lot of the vids/articles that led me to discover what Q was really about were full of BS and that after actually reading Q’s posts, I see the picture more logically than it was originally portrayed. Although I despise censorship, I am sorta glad some of the videos that misrepresented Q are no longer available so people down’t get led down the wrong path.
Yeah, a lot has been lost. Kinda wonder if someday it will be restored and we can see for ourselves which were correct and which were false, which were deliberate fake narratives and which were true but just sounded TOTALLY crazy. Doesn't help that people get bored and start speculating.
I have been all in since December of 2017 and you've hit the nail on the head, fren. Thank you for eloquently expressing what I can't.
http://www.annavonreitz.com/firstbase.pdf
oh nice, thank you!
FWIW... I don't think Q's comments on financials fully support NESARA.
Post 1194: "Federal reserve ending?" Structure. Q Post 2619: "Do we have the gold?" Yes. Gold shall destroy the fed. Q
With regard to gold standard/banking cleanup, a lot of references to the Vatican, Vatican bank, Godfather 3 movie and the rothschild connection to these.
https://qalerts.app/?n=1021
The corporation stuff has been hinted at by more recent posts from the likes of Pompeo - who as you know has held very senior positions for the entire 4 years of POTUS first term. Scavino too. Q is pertinent and relevant due to their proximity to POTUS, this is also surely true of Dan and Mike, so these bear scrutiny in the same way as parts of the same agenda continuum as described by Q.
With regard to advanced technologies and medicines, the strongest recollection was POTUS 2016 inauguration speech in which he mentioned there were many technology sets being hoarded away for use of elite powers rather than being made widely available. Perhaps regeneron was another reference to something in this wheelhouse - since POTUS suggested it made him 'immune' to the china virus. A slip of the tongue, an uninformed lay-persons understanding of the medical concepts, or hinting that maybe cures for ailments can actually be unlocked and made available with the right political will in place?
I am completely on board with you. Trump has a pretty clear history of making statements that prove to be facts. Pompey and Scavino as well.
This is the reply I’ve been waiting for. Thank you. I briefly used 8kun early on but the interface was hard for me to navigate. Never learned how to use the search function...lol. I quit and just independently researched the drops. No doubt I missed out on some really good community research.
I appreciate the point of view of a veteran. I can only imagine how much things have evolved. Q proofs were probably way more important then than now. I saw enough when I started a year ago that I really didn’t need them like y’all did early on.
I don’t wish to discount anyone’s theories on here and I have an open mind. (Wouldn’t be looking at Q otherwise.) I just saw a lot of old stuff coming back up lately on the US Corp/NESARA/etc. and wanted the perspective of those that had been around much longer. I appreciate all the info.
Thanks a lot. ?
Jesus christ that was well put together.
You are on the right track. Most will not research for themselves.
I agree. Alot of chaff among the wheat. Bad bakers.
Nothing to add, but as a long timer it is simply a wise approach and prudent outlook you've developed. Recommending this approach before joining any conversations on this content would be sagelike counsel for all newcomers. Perhaps the mod gods could recommend this to all newfagz before they look insane to us or those they love. ;)
there’s a difference between believing something true and entertaining the idea something might be true. also, just because someone says something crazy like alien fucking or mars slave camps doesn’t necessarily mean everything ELSE they say is incorrect and/or crazy. we know the universe is massive, technology exists far beyond what we are told exists, and pure evil exists. with those 3 truths...a lot of crazy shit is possible
That goes for anything though. There is a difference between being incorrect and being flat out crazy. Alex Jones is another example. These people say just enough truth to suck people in and then they say things that discredit the entire movement.
When someone actually comes up with some good sauce, nobody believes them because of these guys. Just because someone worked in the CIA or wrote some manual or has great credentials does not mean they are credible. They might be but I will be forever skeptical once they cross a line.