Ruling in Gohmert Lawsuit Could ‘Be Big Game-Changer’ for Vote Count on Jan. 6, Expert Says...
A federal judge’s decision in the lawsuit filed against Vice President Mike Pence by a fellow Republican could substantially alter how the events unfold when Congress convenes for a joint session on Jan. 6 to count the Electoral College votes, according to Constitutional expert Rick Green.
While the main thrust of the lawsuit filed by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) is to clarify how much authority Pence will have over the counting of the electoral votes, the case also seeks a court determination on how Congress should vote when Republicans object to slates of electors from six states where President Donald Trump has challenged the state-certified election results.
The lawsuit specifically challenges the constitutionality of a provision in the Electoral Count Act which directs how Congress should vote on objections to slates of electors. The lawsuit argues that the Act overrides the Constitution’s Twelfth Amendment, which directs the House to vote by state delegations rather than via individual members.
“Most people realize that if nobody gets to 270, or nobody gets to whatever the definition of a majority of the electors chosen turns out to be, then it goes to the House, but the House votes by state,” Green, the founder of Patriot Academy, told The Epoch Times.
“Louie Gohmert raises the issue in this lawsuit to say, if that’s the only direction given by the Constitution on how the House would vote in any of these scenarios, then they have to vote that way on the question of rejecting or accepting electors as well. And that’s a big game-changer.”
Republicans hold the majority of state delegations in the House, which would mean they would have the majority in the House and Senate required to decide which slates of electors should be counted.
“Most people say, well, you know, the Democrat House is not going to reject the Pennsylvania Democrat electors. But if the House has to vote by state, absolutely, yes, they would reject those electors,” Green added.
“So even if the court only decides that one technical issue in the Gohmert suit and they ignore all of the other issues, that could absolutely change the outcome of what happens on January 6.”
Republican electors in seven states cast procedural Electoral College votes for Trump on Dec. 14. While only the Democrat electors’ votes in those states have been certified by state authorities, both slates will end up before Congress when the joint session starts at 1 p.m. on Jan. 6.
Trump and a handful of third parties are litigating election challenges in each state, including several that are pending before the Supreme Court.
At least 25 Republicans plan on challenging electoral votes during the joint session, according to a tally by The Epoch Times.
Twenty-four representatives and representatives-elect, who will enter office several days before the session, plan on filing objections. Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) is the only member or member-elect of the upper chamber to commit to an objection.
“You’ve got 74 million Americans who feel disenfranchised, who feel like their vote doesn’t matter. And this is the one opportunity that I have as a United States senator, this process right here, my one opportunity to stand up and say something, and that’s exactly what I’m going to do,” Hawley said on Wednesday.
Objections are filed in writing and must have support from at least one member of each chamber. If they do, they trigger a two-hour debate and a vote by the House of Representatives and the Senate. How that vote is to be conducted could be decided by the judge in the Gohmert case.
Definitely going to be interesting.
My take on VP Pence keeps waffling .....
Black or White Hat or Even Gray Hat....
Meaning wears what is necessary to wear the facade his ' chooses ' to.
Just rcvd an update from Epoch Times....
"Pence asks judge to REJECT push to expand his powers to decide Electoral College "...
Unable to open to share link since I do not subscribe to be able to review their website.
January 6th 2021 will be a day for the history books for sure.
My prayers will continue to ensure that darkness will be brought to light. More so be distinguished, snuffed out so the collective evil will no longer have the power it does.
HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS
Vice President Mike Pence asked a federal judge on Thursday to reject an effort to give him “exclusive authority” to decide which Electoral College votes should be counted during the upcoming joint session of Congress.
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and other Republicans last week filed a lawsuit against Pence, requesting that the court grant Pence power to decide which votes to count on Jan. 6, 2021, when lawmakers will gather to observe the formal certification of states’ electoral votes for the president of the United States.
Pence argued that he was not the correct defendant to the lawsuit, reported The Hill. In a Thursday filing to U.S. District Judge Jeremy Kernodle, an attorney representing Pence wrote, “A suit to establish that the Vice President has discretion over the count, filed against the Vice President, is a walking legal contradiction.”
According to a filing asking for an accelerated schedule in the case, plaintiffs said that their counsel had “made a meaningful attempt” to reach out to Pence’s counsel but discussions “were not successful in reaching an agreement and this lawsuit was filed.”
The lawsuit concerns Pence’s role as president of the Senate.
In seven battleground states, Republican electors cast alternative slates of votes for President Donald Trump on Dec. 14. They alleged that Trump was the true winner in those states, alleging election fraud and contesting election officials who declared a win for Biden.
Gohmert and other Republicans argued in the lawsuit that the U.S. Constitution clearly outlines the protocol for when alternate slates of electors are presented to the president of the Senate. They say the president of the Senate has “exclusive authority and sole discretion under the 12th Amendment to determine which slates of electors for a state, or neither, may be counted.”
The 12th Amendment of the Constitution states that electors of each state have to meet, and ultimately send the signed and certified votes to the president of the Senate, in this case, Pence.
“The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted,” the 1804 amendment says.
Gohmert is among the dozen or so House members planning on challenging electoral votes during the joint session on Jan. 6, 2021. At least one senator is needed to sustain a challenge.
The power of the vice president to count or reject electoral votes is disputed.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Epoch Times.
Zachary Stieber contributed to this report. https://www.theepochtimes.com/pence-asks-judge-to-reject-push-to-expand-his-powers-to-decide-electoral-college-votes_3640007.html
What I’d like to know is who the federal judge is.
Thats because its a lawsuit about Pence filed against Pence. That's the part he disagreed with.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pence-asks-judge-to-reject-push-to-expand-his-powers-to-decide-electoral-college-votes_3640007.html