If they still called the plane with Trump on AF1 on the papers also when Biden was sworn, that mean that the AF1 still had the real president on. Here the proofs of what I'm saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze1Ku4gkvgE go to timer 0.48 to 1:08
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When Trump flew from DC to Palm Beach, it was not noon yet and hence the plane should have been named AF1. But it wasn't. Neither when he flew to Texas.
Meaning that he stepped down earlier most likely and gave way to military leadership.
You can pass me the link so I can see that too? Thanks
Neither POTUS or Pence have used AF1 or AF2 since Jan 11th.
An interesting note to this is the state of emergency declaration he signed for DC.
It was due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from Jan. 11 to Jan. 24, 2021," the Office of the White House Press Secretary said in a statement.
Now as far as I know the event would have to have happened to cause the unrest. POTUS inauguration as President of the Republic already taken place?
Ward said that Trump was in Dc the day of the inauguration (night I think) and the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK47z2QBV0Y&feature=youtu.be seems to prove it too. Idk what happened but for sure there is more to find out.
Justice Thomas was absent from the Faux Inauguration.
Perhaps he conducted the REAL one at Mar-a-Lago in the meantime?
I have heard that also 2 other justices weren't there. I think Alito and another.
I heard Breyer. So the three oldest.
yes that one! I had forgotten this name. xD
Wasn't jan 11 when that gov website said his presidency ended?
Pence used a military transport instead of AF2 for awhile. I’m not a good planefag tho
Pretend planefag here...
There are two physical VC-25 planes (airframe of a 747, with a bunch of enhancements) that are used as AF1 when POTUS needs the whole smash - tail numbers 28000 and 29000. They are sometimes not used if a 747 either can’t land at the airport or it’s uneconomical to run it.
Without doxxing myself too much, Trump came up to Allentown (airport KABE) earlier this year and I used my Kenwood radio to record the AF1 communications between the plane and KABE approach. I have them saved. Not rewarding for non planefags but it’s clear that AF1 flew into KABE and he did NOT use the VC25 because the military plane flew over my and my son-in-law’s house on the leg before their final. It wasn’t a 747 airframe. It WAS a blue and white paint job.
That said, as another poster noted there is no LAW that he uses AF1 as a callsign. Here’s a clip of Bush’s pilot and navigator describing how they obscured the plane’s ID to get him into Baghdad to visit the troops for Thanksgiving. If they did it then, they can do it now for OPSEC.
https://youtu.be/9we7Yx-z8C0
Yes I understood that they don't have to call the plane AF1 also if the Pres is on it, but what I'm saying is if there ever was a record of the plane being called AF1 when Trump (theoretically) wasn't president anymore but was on it. Thanks for the infos though.
That I doubt think could ever happen. But like I said, I’m not I’m the military and I don’t know the compendium of rules for the use of that call sign.
When its not AF1 its 82-8000 https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/82-8000
Ok thanks!
Monkeyworx on youtube seems to know his fly boy stuff
Many times over the years they did not use AF1 call sign when the president was onboard.
I would not read too much into whether it was used or not.
It is not a hard and fast rule too use AF1 call sign
I love all these newfags asking question to planefags.
They don't know planefags don't speak.
I really can't understand your point.