My kid (25) voted for Qidan. I respected his right to choose. Then he bought GME after following “DeepFuckingValue” on Reddit. He panicked when it dipped and sold 90 of his 100 shares and (only) doubled his investment in a month. He was bummed. He was angered when the powers that be stopped people from buying. First we talked about protecting your capital is the #1 rule. Then we talked about the forces at work and the battle for hearts and minds. He took a few red pills. I explained my red pill was 911. Who bought millions of dollars in puts on the airline stocks the week before? They made billions! Plus the free falling twin towers not to mention the 3rd building (hardened for a nuclear strike) going down several days later. I lost friends over that. They could not stomach the red pill. I asked him if he saw the irony in someone named DeepFuckingValue buying a junk company like GME. The only deep value is knowing a huge short squeeze is coming. Then, I really baked his noodle when I asked him, “who do you threw the billions at GME to force that short squeeze?” That was a killer whale taking out the apex predator sharks (hedge funds). Do the math. No way millions of little guys outgunned the hedge funds. He said wow Dad that’s a lot to think about. Then he said, do you always notice stuff like this? I said, my job is to leave the world a better place then I found it for you and all those I love. So yes, I do.
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on the 9/11 stuff honestly I was just looking for an explanation of why the towers fell straight downward like a demolition implosion and not like they took an impact from the side and all i got was mocked... people assume you're taking a definitive stance on something just because you ask questions
The math would say that the plane wouldn't have even remotely enough force to hit the building over onto its side or something like that, if that's what your suggesting.
Demolition wouldn't be necessary. Structural integrity is a gritty game. With tall buildings like that, all of the materials are in constant and extensive tension. They're designed to maintain and strike equilibrium between the tensions, making them incredibly durable in the face of widespread forces (heavy winds, for example). A plane collision could easily have broken key nodes in the structure, destroying the equilibrium of tensions and causing the entire structure to slowly "unravel" if you will.
The whole "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" thing is a meme for good reason. In a building like that there's a lot more going on in terms of forces than just the direct surroundings of the jet. A skyscraper has tremendous energy in it at all times, by necessity, due to the omnipresent force of gravity on a relatively localized point. In the right circumstances, energy converts to heat and extreme forces rather easily.
I think a lot of people have trouble recognizing how large structures like that behave. A lot of insight into that can be gleaned from watching the Japanese skyscrapers respond to earthquakes . They're designed to be flexible enough that said earthquakes bend them instead of shattering them.
Another example of what happens when structural tensions aren't sufficiently balanced can be seen in the footage of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse
It's for these reasons that I don't really buy the idea that there was demolition, etc. involved [at least, in the two main towers]. I do however entertain the idea that it was known about in advance and not prevented.
As far as all sorts of weird reports, I think that's just what happens when you have awful media, complete and utter chaos, and massive trauma all bundled in one. It's well documented that eye-witnesses to severely traumatic events (car accidents, for example) can all have different stories because people have trouble processing said events.
Sources: Family full of experienced engineers of all kinds.
My background is Chemical Engineering with four years practicing followed by a JD. So I’m not a statics and dynamics expert by any means but I’m also smart enough to know that a free fall requires just the right conditions and if not achieved, the building demolition will not be free fall and will likely topple to one side or the other. Not to debate 911 here - that’s not the point. The point is that what you see is not always the real reason for why things happen. Love, Dad
Agree with the last part, I'm not even trying to push a certain thing, I just like introducing other ways of looking at things.
That said, I can see what you're saying with toppling to the side, if it were more of an isolated structural failure (think removing the bottom-side Jenga block). In the instance where the tower received first structural failure from the top, if it were to collapse, it would likely be due to structure-wide complete systemic integrity failure. It may start to tip, but it wouldn't get far because it would effectively crumple under its own weight. Think sand castle, moreso.
If anything, I would argue that a more vertical collapse would LESS so imply explosives at the base, as that might not have sufficient time to damage structural integrity near the top, yielding greater room for tipping, potentially.
I really think there are just enough variables in play that you couldn't say with even remote certainty how it would or should behave without significant testing and computer modeling. My understanding is that people have done some of that and gotten mixed results. That tells me more detail and a wider spread of tests would be necessary.
Either way, I agree with the sentiment of challenging apparent answers and thinking, because in life, things tend to be overwhelmingly more complicated than people can even process.
So building 7 collapsed without a plane, rationalize that away.
Once you admit 7 was a controlled demolition, and the demolition crew was there that day to do the job, COINCIDENTALLY two other buildings beside it happened to also just implode vertically on the same day from airplanes without the demolition crew who was NEXT DOOR being involved. And this building 7 "pull it" demolition wasn't public knowledge, so they were attempting to keep it a secret. Why?
Chances that it is a coincidence 7 was demolished the same day the other two neatly implode in to perfect little insurance payout piles is what, one in infinity? One in a trillion? What if they didn't collapse and just stood there? 7 just implodes anyway?