This idea is silly, you don't have to worship anything at all to be a good person or an altruistic person. You don't have to worship any particular god to be a good person either. Altruistic behavior even exists in other species.
Religion has done a lot of good for the world but also a lot of bad, Christianity included. So many wars and suffering. Deliberate crimes. Subjugation of vast populations. Political intrigue. Religions are full of the same failings of the non-religious because they are inhabited by human beings. And at the end of the day it is not religion that has advanced the species but dealings outside of it. For a large part of recorded history, humanity has advanced in spite of religious institutions.
I am not disagreeable - I agreed that Christianity produces great results where people do lots of good and establish a society I prefer to live in.
I was answering the question "what is the problem?"
The problem for some people is that the REASON why those who subscribe to Christianity do the good things is not based on reality but faith. Faith that they will be punished if they do not do these things. Faith that they should do the good deeds because it is God's way.
I am not claiming God doesn't exist - I don't know.
If you claim God exists, then define God, and provide evidence to support your claim. If there is sufficient evidence, I will definitely believe your claim. I am open minded.
The more I believe in God the more God reveals himself to me. I don't think someone who is a staunch atheist could ever understand. It is similar to Q- How many coincidences until mathematically impossible? The things I've seen happen I know aren't coincidences. There is more to this world than just a universe and space and planets. I do believe it's God. But I respect your recognition of a Christian society breeding a positive culture. Likewise I respect the other pillars of western culture, our logic and dedication to reason.
This idea is silly, you don't have to worship anything at all to be a good person or an altruistic person. You don't have to worship any particular god to be a good person either. Altruistic behavior even exists in other species.
Religion has done a lot of good for the world but also a lot of bad, Christianity included. So many wars and suffering. Deliberate crimes. Subjugation of vast populations. Political intrigue. Religions are full of the same failings of the non-religious because they are inhabited by human beings. And at the end of the day it is not religion that has advanced the species but dealings outside of it. For a large part of recorded history, humanity has advanced in spite of religious institutions.
I am not disagreeable - I agreed that Christianity produces great results where people do lots of good and establish a society I prefer to live in.
I was answering the question "what is the problem?"
The problem for some people is that the REASON why those who subscribe to Christianity do the good things is not based on reality but faith. Faith that they will be punished if they do not do these things. Faith that they should do the good deeds because it is God's way.
Except there is plenty of evidence to the existence of God. There is Zero Evidence disproving his existence.
I am not claiming God doesn't exist - I don't know.
If you claim God exists, then define God, and provide evidence to support your claim. If there is sufficient evidence, I will definitely believe your claim. I am open minded.
The more I believe in God the more God reveals himself to me. I don't think someone who is a staunch atheist could ever understand. It is similar to Q- How many coincidences until mathematically impossible? The things I've seen happen I know aren't coincidences. There is more to this world than just a universe and space and planets. I do believe it's God. But I respect your recognition of a Christian society breeding a positive culture. Likewise I respect the other pillars of western culture, our logic and dedication to reason.