Ok I can answer this: We did actually get independence from England in 1776, and they tried hard in 1812 to get us back. What happened though? Jean Lafitte and the swampy bois came along, and turned the war of 1812 around. This is where the English knew they couldn't take our land back with conventional warfare, so they chose a different strategy. This is when the Jewish slave owners (paid for by yours truly: The Rothschilds) ran for office in the south to create a division amongst our politics.The North had sleepers as well, but only later in the 19th century did they play their part. So anyways, the slave owners became more and more brazen against Lincoln and Company, and finally the tensions cracked and Fort Sumpter was attacked. The Rothschilds then fueled the conflict with the purpose of dividing and conquering so they could enact their central banking system, during The Reconstruction in 1871 and later on. After 1871, American businesses were then bought off by the first of the known 13 bloodlines (Vanderbilt, Rockefeller etc.) So basically, yes we had independence, no it did not last that long until the Cabal got involved after 1812.