Are You Under Their Spell?
(www.youtube.com)
Comments (49)
sorted by:
How are there so many atheist and agnostics that claim to be Q followers when Q repeatedly tells us GOD WINS? You can't have it both ways! Repent for the hour draws near! i.e. The Storm!
Im not an Atheist, I believe in God/gods.
Q says they want you divided by religion. Yours is not the only one.
I study all religions and "myths", thats not being divisive...thats inclusive.
Its arrogant of you to believe your account of God is the only account of God.
Its arrogant of you to believe you have the truth. No one knows for sure.
Otherwise there wouldn't be religious wars or debate.
I pray you wise up while you have time!
"I believe in God/Gods"
No you don't. If you believe in God, then you know that there are no other gods. Please stop trying to hide behind religion while you attack it. We call that pseudo-spiritualism .
According to Christianity.
Hindus, for one believe in polytheism.
Most religions are polytheistic.
How close minded and divisive of you.
(puts head in hands)
You claimed to believe in God/Gods. This expressly shows you are not: religious, knowledgeable of what practicing a religion entails, knowledgeable of the fact that you cannot truly be both Christian and Hindu, without directly violating what the Bible teaches. These mental gymnastics will not cover up the fact that you simply don't know what you're talking about.
Neither will your virtue signaling. I am not attacking other religions, I am attacking the fact that you are pretending to follow or believe in them all (a religious moderate/fence sitter. Yay. Good for you. You're so intellectually superior). You only used this idea of "polytheism" to hurl attacks at Christianity. Which is fine, but I'm going to call you out on it. Your worthless labels are water off a duck's back friend. Try again.
I don't claim to be either. I study all religions and do not adhere to any. I do not claim to be religious. I welcome all in put from different religious views, except the ones that I believe the C.C. has corrupted.
What? How? You write shit you think you hear or want to hear and start riffing off of it. You are truly a mental midget.
" I believe in God/gods." " I believe in God/gods." " I believe in God/gods."
"Yours is not the only one" "Yours is not the only one" "Yours is not the only one"
You don't adhere to them but believe in them and study them... Again. you have missed the entire point of religion, in pursuit of self-gratification in the form of intellectual masturbation. It's literally 2016 all over again hahaha.
You move the goalposts constantly, and you try to hide behind the very thing you pretend to be against, when in reality it's just white Christians you want to divide. Why? Who knows. Personal trauma is usually the case, but none of your own emotions carry any weight outside of your mind. I've seen this passive-aggressive pseudo-argument before. It's old. Get a new one.
I quote everything I attack good sir. If you think I missed something feel free to point it out. Problem is you won't because you can't wrap your head around the fact that you simply don't know what you're talking about in your judgements of "the church".
Is this what their programming told you, that I HAVE to adhere to one religion. What a great way to keep them compartmentalized.
I have to pick one god, well that sounds like a monotheist point of view.
You know who the first monotheist was in recorded history? The most hated pharaoh of all time Akhenaten, hmmm?
I try to point it out and you just ignore it.
If you find a church that works for you, and you feel like donating to them because they have helped you, great. If you go to a church and just want to show up and never donate, great. If you leave feeling like a better human, more power to you. My experience at my church has been uplifting and satisfying. It's a very personal experience. I go when I feel like getting a better understanding of scripture or when I need to hear someone "decode" scripture for me to improve my life. Sure there are pastors who are getting you more emotionally involved. They want you there to support the church. But it is give-and-take. A lot of times it feels like group therapy. And it's your choice to go or not to go. I see no harm in it
Well said. Im not trying to deter anyone from worshipping the way want. I was wanting to bring attention to the tactics that are being used. Just like when watching t.v. they use graphics, symbolism, ect. to program us, but if you are made aware of these tactics they have less of an effect on their programing. I know there are well meaning people out there, but I think they are following ancient rituals and are not aware of the implications. I think some religious heads aren't even aware of what they are orchestrating. I also see no harm in it, as long as you are aware of the priming.
My point was to be careful and be aware of the tricks they use against us.
Question everything. - Q
Thomas 3
Jesus said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
This is true. Churches are often infiltrated with fakes or money mongers. Be aware of what you are supporting and if their hearts are in the right place.
In what way is this a bad thing?
You don't see it as manipulative and controlling?
How is it different from what the MSM is doing?
Our emotions are manipulated daily, by all kinds of different sources. They don't even have to involve man. To dissuade people from going to church because it "manipulates their emotions" (which we can assume is in a positive light, lifting their spirits) is dangerous in times like these. Churches are spiritual hospitals, especially in moments like these, where the fate of the world hangs on a thread. That's why they tried to shut them down under COVID.
I really don't like atheists, or "logical/intellectual" types speaking on religion, mostly because their eyes cannot hide their own humanity as well as their words can. Their own suffering is disregarded, to shit on "dumb, blind creationists". It's more division, it's more blasphemy, it's more MEN thinking they understand and can speak on the actions of GOD. This is why I'm not a catholic. Men have always been and will always be flawed, it's when we become arrogant that we are at our dumbest.
What the MSM is doing is very different. If you really think churches are as bad as the MSM then you're really in the wrong place. I'm not saying all churches are equal, many have been compromised and are little more than extensions of the Democratic Party. But on the whole, churches provide something that nothing else can.
You're assuming that the church has you're best interest at heart. I think if they did have you're best interest at heart they wouldn't have to resort to manipulation and control tactics to keep you coming back week after week to keep their tills full. There is nothing wrong with lifting your spirits, if that is what is happening. Are you sure thats whats going on or are you in a highly suggestive hypnotic state? I believe it would be easier found out if you could raise your spirt by yourself and then decide. Does the Church teach you to attain the positive light by yourself or is the Church required to do so?
I really don't like Christians or religious types who assume you don't believe in a god or gods because you don't believe in organized religion. Nor do I like Christians who only read and study one religion. Religion has been compartmentalized, each one having part of the picture and all telling a similar story. Christianity is extremely divisive, just ask the homosexuals, jews, gnostics, non believers, ect. You may not be Catholic, but its the origin of your belief and you use their book. You are not far from the tree you fell from.
How exactly do you think the cabal controlled the masses before television and radio? The Catholic Church was the MSM of its time and still hold sway. The C.C. developed the mesmerizing of the congregation. Weather all churches have nefarious intents and purposes or not, they are using the C.C.'s age old technics. The typical church goer is completely unaware of what the Church is doing and that is wrong. If your church does not make you aware of the priming then its nefarious.
No. I study all religions and "myths". The Synagogues use the same type of priming. Are you a Christian, per chance?
Im not an Atheist. I study all religions and believe in God/gods.
Their programming is working marvelously. Trying to strike fear in me like they do you. If you ask any other Christian you too will not be finding the next few decades to your liking. Just "recognizing" Jesus isn't enough. If you ask me...we're fine.
"You're assuming that the church has you're best interest at heart. I think if they did have you're best interest at heart they wouldn't have to resort to manipulation and control tactics to keep you coming back week after week to keep their tills full."
what is "the church"? Is it A Church? Is it all of them? You'll have to clarify, as all churches are not the same. Neither are religions. To distill such a nuanced topic to such a crude form is very telling of your motives. Furthermore, people choose to come to church under their own volition, no more than you choose to put on a movie to be entertained, which is far more manipulative than a church service would ever be, but let's set that aside. On the base level it is a group of humans with common beliefs and goals, if you look outside your window, you'll find this is a common trait amongst all mankind, since the dawn of time. How this is indicative of some sort of "manipulation" is beyond me. Yet again, no one is forced to put a penny into the church, at least none that I've been to. You shouldn't have to. Congratulations, it's 2021 and you found out that greed exists. Yes, there are churches who are greedy, who preach pro-choice, who preach gun control. As I said, not all churches are the same. To frame people visiting a church on the weekend as brainwashed money trees is to entirely miss the point of Church in the first place. Let me take a wild guess that your parents were religious, yet you saw hypocrisy, and in doing so branded the failures of those you saw as "Christian or whatever" onto the entire population of believers? Just a guess, it's probably wrong but that sort of thing is common, and it often spurs from child-like rage, such as this.
"There is nothing wrong with lifting your spirits, if that is what is happening. Are you sure that's what's going on or are you in a highly suggestive hypnotic state? I believe it would be easier found out if you could raise your spirt by yourself and then decide. Does the Church teach you to attain the positive light by yourself or is the Church required to do so?"
Yes I am sure. I happen to have attended a church service once or twice. I have a little news for you, when people choose to access information, they put themselves in a "highly suggestive hypnotic state". You, in fact, are in one right now being on this site. You will believe things posted here that you wouldn't anywhere else, because you have put your trust in this source of information. People see religion as information to use in life, to live life by. Please keep your garbled MK-ULTRA spook-shit to conspiracies.win. Next you'll be telling me the only way to undo the manipulation, is to have JFK Jr. arrive on a flying saucer in the shape of my ass. Anyway, "raising your spirit by yourself" is absolutely a great thing, problem is, humans are more powerful together, not only that but new followers simply need assistance in understanding the text, so coming together has several benefits. And usually when spirituality and the self get mixed, the New Age bullshit slithers in and milks you of every dollar. Third eye and such. The same people who would rather manipulate you through other means like drug use, peer pressure, shame etc. etc. As if Satan himself will spare you because your Chakras are too aligned, or your Pineal is too de-calcified. Again, you are speaking of "THE CHURCH". I don't know what that is. I've come out against Catholicism, which is the only church I've ever been to that would even remotely resemble what you're describing here. This sounds like you have a personal vendetta, rather than a philosophical argument. Regardless, it is always upon the individual to make the best decisions for his faith, if he is new and doesn't understand much of anything, why would he not lean on the Church he attends to provide answers as best they can?
"I really don't like Christians or religious types who assume you don't believe in a god or gods because you don't believe in organized religion. Nor do I like Christians who only read and study one religion. Religion has been compartmentalized, each one having part of the picture and all telling a similar story. Christianity is extremely divisive, just ask the homosexuals, jews, gnostics, non believers, ect. You may not be Catholic, but its the origin of your belief and you use their book. You are not far from the tree you fell from."
I don't believe in organized religion. And yet here you are... Organization is not inherently bad. It's not the act of organization that is committing the evil. Ah yes, the "all religions are the same" argument. Please, do not insult my intelligence. When Jesus marries a 9 year old like muhammed, or calls for non-believers to be killed like the Talmud, then I'll listen to your 2016 Sam Harris arguments. To act like all religions are the same is yet ANOTHER gross distillation of several nuanced topics on your path to stamping "the church" (the one I came out and said I was against or another church?) as being on par with MSM. "Each one having part of the picture"... Oh wise one. Please. We beg you. Put the picture together for us. We fumble in our ignorance... Dude, you watched a couple youtube videos and spent about 5 minutes of alone time thinking this through before posting. And that's exactly what it looks like judging from your argument. "Chrsitianity is extremely divisive. (massive fucking eyeroll) K bro, again welcome to 2021 where everything is compromised and weaponized. Ask the Jews? I'm startled that in your vast journey's across the deserts of the middle east, teaching all religions their flaws I'm sure, you never happened upon what the Jewish belief on Gentiles is. Maybe swallow some pride and check it out. I'm not even going to attempt to explain why saying Christianity is divisive is such a profoundly broad and stupid statement, because as mentioned before, Sam Harris was much smarter than you and much more researched, and even he could not persuade me that the argument didn't belong to a whiney pseudo-intellectual with unknown personal grudges against a particular religion. I don't "use their book". We use the King James Bible. Catholics have other books, that are written by men. We do not use such books, or foolish traditional ceremony beyond what the bible calls for. You don't even know what eco-system I'm in, you've shown that much. Try again.
"How exactly do you think the cabal controlled the masses before television and radio? The Catholic Church was the MSM of its time and still hold sway. The C.C. developed the mesmerizing of the congregation. Weather all churches have nefarious intents and purposes or not, they are using the C.C.'s age old technics. The typical church goer is completely unaware of what the Church is doing and that is wrong. If your church does not make you aware of the priming then its nefarious."
Again, if you read what I said, I came out as against the Catholic Political Structure. News flash, not all churches are the Vatican. Even other Catholic ones. Thank you for arguing about a point I never made. Whether* can you list some tactics out? Or are you just going to totally bypass using evidence in this debate?
I've had this discussion 100 times. And it always turns out the same. Let's see if we can make it 100-1, humor me.
There is so much wrong in your previous post I don't know where to start. The amount of Cognitive Dissidence, Projection, Illogical Fallacies and just plain wrong statements are staggering. I'll address some of my favorites but Im not going to address all of them.
what is "the church"? Is it A Church? Is it all of them? You'll have to clarify, as all churches are not the same. Neither are religions.
On a go forward, when I say Church I am referring to the Christian faith's assembly. When I say Synagogue I am referring to the Jewish faith's assembly. When I say Mosque I am referring to the Islamic faith's assembly. To my knowledge there is not a word that encompasses all three's assemblies so I used Church as a catch all to mean all three of the Abrahamic faith's assembly. I apologize, I should have been more clear. All three use worship rituals as a means to attain a highly suggestive hypnotic state. They then proceed to drill into your head that you are sinful, a bad person and there is no hope for you until you do as they say. Its fear based programming.
I have a little news for you, when people choose to access information, they put themselves in a "highly suggestive hypnotic state".You, in fact, are in one right now being on this site. You will believe things posted here that you wouldn't anywhere else, because you have put your trust in this source of information.
This is just a flat out fallacy. Im going to need a source.
Please keep your garbled MK-ULTRA spook-shit to conspiracies.win. Next you'll be telling me the only way to undo the manipulation, is to have JFK Jr. arrive on a flying saucer in the shape of my ass.
I'll refer you to Q Post #2663 and #772. Do you even Q bro, or are you here to just virtue signal? I would suggest you study Q more and post less. I see you grasp humor of the absurd as well as you grasp Q.
I don't believe in organized religion. And yet here you are... Organization is not inherently bad. It's not the act of organization that is committing the evil. Ah yes, the "all religions are the same" argument. Please, do not insult my intelligence.
For someone who doesn't believe in organized religion, you sure are spending a lot of time defending it. I never said you did or did not believe in organized religion. Nor did I say the act of organization was evil. You are creating your own argument to argue, it's logical fallacy. I also never said all religions are the same, I said all religions are telling a similar story. All major religions and most ancient myths/histories tell of a flood story, it even has a name it's called Antediluvian, even geologists and archeologists refer to this. That is fact. There is a complete field of religious studies that compare and contrast these stories, it's called Comparative Mythology. I'm not concerned in the slightest in insulting your intelligence, because it's evident your intelligence is non existent.
Dude, you watched a couple youtube videos and spent about 5 minutes of alone time thinking this through before posting. And that's exactly what it looks like judging from your argument.
This is my favorite. This is projection 101. You obviously only watched the first 5min. of the video I posted and spent little time thinking through your argument. Im sure you'll deny this, but once you're able to spot projection it's undeniable.
I don't "use their book". We use the King James Bible. Catholics have other books, that are written by men. We do not use such books, or foolish traditional ceremony beyond what the bible calls for. You don't even know what eco-system I'm in, you've shown that much. Try again.
You most certainly do. It's called the New Testament. I refuse to fall into their trap of arguing minuscule differences in the different sects of Christianity. Or if some obscure book is or is not included in your version or arguing over some small semantic issue. You are Christian if you believe Christ is God. Which includes Catholicism. The whole book, every version, is full of mistranslations, omissions and contradictions. The NT was written by men. Jesus didn't write it and never claimed to. The OT was written by Moses a man. What is your point? I would consider the ritualistic human sacrifice or the eating of flesh and drinking of blood as a traditional ceremony of fools. That traditional ceremony is not exclusive to Catholicism either. Im going to take a guess...Polar? Tundra? What the hell does me knowing what ecosystem your in have to do with anything?
Whether can you list some tactics out? Or are you just going to totally bypass using evidence in this debate?
So here it is...proof you didn't watch the complete video and are in fact projecting. They tell you in the video the tactics and even have a preacher admitting, yes this is what we do. Its up to you to do more due diligence if you see fit, not mine.
My objective in posting this was to make the public aware of this so they would be less effected by the priming. If you want to partake in mass hysteria thats your choice. If you congregate with a group of people and are aware of the group trying to achieve an ecstatic feeling thats one thing, but if you are unaware of the tactics they use its manipulative and nefarious. Thats all Im saying.
"Cognitive Dissidence"
Yeah, that's all I needed to hear. Hahaha, have a good one.
Coward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7btz0ocXDeg
Thank you. The link was already included. Question was asked with the knowledge of such. I'm looking for arguments, not links.