I AGREE with the idea that a person should be able to do what they want with THEIR OWN body. I just disagree the assessment that a baby = a mother's body.
It's so tiring and frustrating to fundamentally disagree with others on what I see as basic reality.
The "Personhood" angle is a distraction from the real point which is: At conception you have a Human. Humanhood is prior to Personhood. Since the being is a human kind of being at conception, then it is wrong to murder it - regardless of what stage of development the little human is at.
What kind of life begins at conception?
Human life.
It's wrong to kill humans, even really small humans.
"i don't know if I agree with that blanket statement... its pretty natural for any animal to engage - as a group - in warfare or death-battles against others of their own kind."
Well, we're not merely animals. So the comparison falls flat.
If one uses the Animal Kingdom to determine how Humans should interact, then one opens the door for all sorts of indecencies.
Rape and incest account for less than .86% of all abortions. Yet these are the main reason provided for keeping abortion legal. We shouldn't use the exception to create/mandate the rule. Adoption is a viable option for those rare instances. And why aren't we talking about a more serious form of punishment for the abusers or rapists in these scenarios? Rather than implementing punishment upon the innocent "human" life in the womb, lets turn the discussion on the instigator and what should be done to him in order to lesson these instances even more.
I believe the baby should have rights beginning somewhere in the second or third trimester
When one places the starting point for Human life anywhere other than at conception, then they find themselves on a very slippery/difficult slope of determining at what arbitrary timestamp they should place the starting point.
Lest a sinner repents and turns to God, they WILL be judged and pay for their crimes. Humbly repenting to God and turning away from sin receives Grace and Mercy, but inly through Jesus Christ. Those who brazenly fight for and brag about having abortions will receive their due for murder
God (whether someone believes in Him or not) created each of us and we became children from the moment of conception. A clump of cells does not suddenly become life. That’s as ludicrous as saying that a speck of dust hit another in outer space and bang became a planet and from there plants, animals, people. It was all created by God’s spoken word. A baby growing inside a mother’s womb is NOT a part of her body. A man cannot bear a child. Men cannot become women, women cannot become women. Mental illness is nonsensical and not normal and should MOT be catered to because of snowflakes.
Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
Jeremiah 1:5 “ Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Matthew 18:6 “ If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
I AGREE with the idea that a person should be able to do what they want with THEIR OWN body. I just disagree the assessment that a baby = a mother's body.
It's so tiring and frustrating to fundamentally disagree with others on what I see as basic reality.
The "Personhood" angle is a distraction from the real point which is: At conception you have a Human. Humanhood is prior to Personhood. Since the being is a human kind of being at conception, then it is wrong to murder it - regardless of what stage of development the little human is at.
What kind of life begins at conception?
Human life.
It's wrong to kill humans, even really small humans.
Well, we're not merely animals. So the comparison falls flat.
If one uses the Animal Kingdom to determine how Humans should interact, then one opens the door for all sorts of indecencies.
Rape and incest account for less than .86% of all abortions. Yet these are the main reason provided for keeping abortion legal. We shouldn't use the exception to create/mandate the rule. Adoption is a viable option for those rare instances. And why aren't we talking about a more serious form of punishment for the abusers or rapists in these scenarios? Rather than implementing punishment upon the innocent "human" life in the womb, lets turn the discussion on the instigator and what should be done to him in order to lesson these instances even more.
Anyone who murders babies born and unborn lest they repent should be gone after and whatever they did to others shall be done to them.
Amen
I 100% agree with you on the subject. We're few and far between from what I gather.
well said my friend.
When one places the starting point for Human life anywhere other than at conception, then they find themselves on a very slippery/difficult slope of determining at what arbitrary timestamp they should place the starting point.
Lest a sinner repents and turns to God, they WILL be judged and pay for their crimes. Humbly repenting to God and turning away from sin receives Grace and Mercy, but inly through Jesus Christ. Those who brazenly fight for and brag about having abortions will receive their due for murder
God (whether someone believes in Him or not) created each of us and we became children from the moment of conception. A clump of cells does not suddenly become life. That’s as ludicrous as saying that a speck of dust hit another in outer space and bang became a planet and from there plants, animals, people. It was all created by God’s spoken word. A baby growing inside a mother’s womb is NOT a part of her body. A man cannot bear a child. Men cannot become women, women cannot become women. Mental illness is nonsensical and not normal and should MOT be catered to because of snowflakes.
Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
Jeremiah 1:5 “ Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Matthew 18:6 “ If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.