After seeing how the media lied to us over the last two decades (the lies and deception went on far longer, but I was only red-pilled after 9/11), I wonder how much of what we were told about Tiananmen Square 1989 were true.
I worked with two people who were university students in Beijing during the 1989 protest, both told me that they cleared peacefully, and that the killings took place on the perimeters of the city. Neither recalled actual bloodshed in Tiananmen Square. A Taiwanese singer who was with three other prominent democracy movement leaders in Beijing also said, during interviews with reporters (Chinese and Western) that they were amongst the last ones to clear the square and he did not witness any killings.
That being said, I have also heard of first hand accounts from former PLA officers that they were given live ammunition and ordered to use "any means necessary". Some regiments did not follow orders to use force while some did.
I don't think we will ever know the truth, unless we were there when things were happening. I don't believe in the media's narrative on Tiananmen Square anymore. There are lots of censored materials about Tiananmen that we can dig up, including one British journalist who was shown an article he supposedly wrote and published about the massacre, to which he replied that he has absolutely no recollections of ever having written the article. June 4th was such a big event then, like 9/11, there is no way he didn't remember anything about it if he took part.
The real question maybe is how any kind of revolt that habbened that day akchually was a sort of early "color revolution" as in *fomented by Alphabet Soups' ".
My guess is that Tiananmen Square was a power play within the Chines communist party. The origins of the protest being controlled by agents within the intelligence services of would not surprise me. I am also guessing that foreign agents from other countries' intelligence agencies were trying to influence those protesting. Most revolutionary groups around the world are infiltrated and controlled by foreign and national intelligence agencies
After seeing how the media lied to us over the last two decades (the lies and deception went on far longer, but I was only red-pilled after 9/11), I wonder how much of what we were told about Tiananmen Square 1989 were true.
I worked with two people who were university students in Beijing during the 1989 protest, both told me that they cleared peacefully, and that the killings took place on the perimeters of the city. Neither recalled actual bloodshed in Tiananmen Square. A Taiwanese singer who was with three other prominent democracy movement leaders in Beijing also said, during interviews with reporters (Chinese and Western) that they were amongst the last ones to clear the square and he did not witness any killings.
That being said, I have also heard of first hand accounts from former PLA officers that they were given live ammunition and ordered to use "any means necessary". Some regiments did not follow orders to use force while some did.
I don't think we will ever know the truth, unless we were there when things were happening. I don't believe in the media's narrative on Tiananmen Square anymore. There are lots of censored materials about Tiananmen that we can dig up, including one British journalist who was shown an article he supposedly wrote and published about the massacre, to which he replied that he has absolutely no recollections of ever having written the article. June 4th was such a big event then, like 9/11, there is no way he didn't remember anything about it if he took part.
The real question maybe is how any kind of revolt that habbened that day akchually was a sort of early "color revolution" as in *fomented by Alphabet Soups' ".
My guess is that Tiananmen Square was a power play within the Chines communist party. The origins of the protest being controlled by agents within the intelligence services of would not surprise me. I am also guessing that foreign agents from other countries' intelligence agencies were trying to influence those protesting. Most revolutionary groups around the world are infiltrated and controlled by foreign and national intelligence agencies