nice, anything you'd like to discuss on the topic, like how you came to the conclusion or whatever or anything new?
I created c/sede for discussions so as to not clutter up some of these main boards
mostly I don't know what happens "next" but I'm speculating there will have to be a widespread awareness created of what happened, people will pray for God to help resolve things, and probably somehow a traditional pope will be elected with Vatican 2 being rejected and this era of history will move on. It's been so long with things being different that it's hard to envision how it will feel with this all finally being past us.
Like we here think the 2020 U.S. presidential election was stolen, some Catholics think the 1958 conclave that elects a pope was stolen by non-Catholics, which means a non-pope was "selected"
The Church stood in the way of "woke" progress so its institutions were taken over - instead of being disbanded, its institutions were made to not obstruct the designs of people who want to act contrary to Christian principles.
Our position is the conclusion of rejecting a false conservativism that wants to conserve some of the "modern updates", much like some of our "conservative" politicians want to go half in on voting for out of control spending bills and such. We find the other "traditionalist" positions to be contradictory half-measures.
I myself am a sedevacanist.
nice, anything you'd like to discuss on the topic, like how you came to the conclusion or whatever or anything new?
I created c/sede for discussions so as to not clutter up some of these main boards
mostly I don't know what happens "next" but I'm speculating there will have to be a widespread awareness created of what happened, people will pray for God to help resolve things, and probably somehow a traditional pope will be elected with Vatican 2 being rejected and this era of history will move on. It's been so long with things being different that it's hard to envision how it will feel with this all finally being past us.
There are some comparable parallels going on:
Like we here think the 2020 U.S. presidential election was stolen, some Catholics think the 1958 conclave that elects a pope was stolen by non-Catholics, which means a non-pope was "selected"
The Church stood in the way of "woke" progress so its institutions were taken over - instead of being disbanded, its institutions were made to not obstruct the designs of people who want to act contrary to Christian principles.
Our position is the conclusion of rejecting a false conservativism that wants to conserve some of the "modern updates", much like some of our "conservative" politicians want to go half in on voting for out of control spending bills and such. We find the other "traditionalist" positions to be contradictory half-measures.