With an eye on history I'd have to say that our "collective" suffering in the context of America is at a 3 maybe 4? The great depression being 6 pushing 7-7.5. Compared to China's "great leap forward" Or the soviet famines were 8 on good days if you can imagine.

Additionally I'm not saying Americans aren't suffering atm. Im saying it's not china...yet.

When more lefties wake up after the effects of the kool-aide wear off (because it requires full bellies for the drug to take affect) then they'll start waking up. "When their spine hits their belly" as they say.

With an eye on history I'd have to say that our "collective" suffering in the context of America is at a 3 maybe 4? The great depression being 6 pushing 7-7.5. Compared to China's "great leap forward" Or the soviet famines were 8 on good days if you can imagine.