My last post is as best as I can describe it, and I think it's perfectly logical. Some may disagree, but when faith is involved then leaps in logic are pretty much guaranteed. If that doesn't work for you, sorry then I can't help. You need to look at it on your own, preferably in the context of the Trump candidacy, presidency and all of his actions because they are super important, and decide on your own. This discussion is equivalent to me trying to convince you God exists. No logical statements can be made without including faith in it. Otherwise it would never be a discussion about belief since God's existence would just be true. And this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in God too much but I understand if I want my mind changed, talking to other people won't do. It's self discovery. I'll leave you with a food for thought. If there was some perfectly logical sequence of statements that can be articulated such that it convinces every single person with half a brain, then the whole thing can be understood by the very people the plan is meant to overthrow and therefore requires no faith from believers that there is indeed A) people meant to be overthrow and B) a plan to do it. You either believe it or you don't. And then you decide if you want to try to further test your existing belief or you decide you have it figured out completely and there's no reason to deviate.

My last post is as best as I can describe it, and I think it's perfectly logical. Some may disagree, but when faith is involved then leaps in logic are pretty much guaranteed. If that doesn't work for you, sorry then I can't help.

You need to look at it on your own, preferably in the context of the Trump candidacy, presidency and all of his actions because they are super important, and decide on your own. This discussion is equivalent to me trying to convince you God exists. No logical statements can be made without including faith in it. Otherwise it would never be a discussion about belief since God's existence would just be true. And this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in God too much but I understand if I want my mind changed, talking to other people won't do. It's self discovery.

I'll leave you with a food for thought. If there was some perfectly logical sequence of statements that can be articulated such that it convinces every single person with half a brain, then the whole thing can be understood by the very people the plan is meant to overthrow and therefore requires no faith from believers that there is indeed A) people meant to be overthrow and B) a plan to do it. You either believe it or you don't. And then you decide if you want to try to figure it out further to test your existing belief or you decide you have it figured out completely and there's no reason to deviate.