Just because God establishes the authority doesn't mean it is being executed according to His intentions. The same Caesar to whom God granted authority to also executed His Son at the urging of the Pharisees. The stated purpose for God giving the "authority of the sword" to ruling authorities in Romans 13 is "punishing evildoers," was it not?

And isn't the crime of the Deep State that it punishes the innocent and lets the guilty go free? A state which punishes the innocent is a clear aberration from God's design. I think it is fair to suggest that we should understand the aberration of government as a result of sin.

And your citation of the Papacy is actually rather relevant since it sort of gets into my other post in this thread. The people of Magdeburg were exactly what you cited. They rejected the Papacy yet believed God established just authority according to Romans 13 as all Lutherans do. In reality, I believe the Pope is an office of antichrist acting in pretense against the original basis of its authority. The Bishop of Rome was one of the metropolitan leaders of the early Christian faith but over time they abused the claims of Peter's succession as a claim to authority above all Christians and bolstered such claims with forged documentations. This was rejected first by the Eastern Orthodox during the Great Schism and later by the Protestants who were fed up ith Papal abuses. The Pope chose to excommunicate and Martin Luther and others were forced to establish a Christianity which relied on the Bible not the Pope as its basic authority.

Their proposed resolution of the early Lutherans in Magdeburg was to recognize that each individual magistrate had an accounting to God and it is the duty of a proper God fearing magistrate to protect his or her citizens. And as with all Patriots, the tree of liberty was watered with their blood when the Pope inspired the Holy Roman Emperor to murder them in cold blood. But this is the beginning of what led to the eventual establishment of Western democracies where the magistracy is the property of the citizenry rather than hereditary rulers. Much of the rhetoric of the American Revolution revolves around establishment of the injustice and tyranny of the rulers they rejected and the intention to establish a more perfect and just system.

The issue now is that We the People are being usurped by would be monarchs who are themselves engaged in rebellion against just authority.

Just because God establishes the authority doesn't mean it is being executed according to His intentions. The stated purpose for God giving the "authority of the sword" to ruling authorities in Romans 13 is "punishing evildoers," was it not?

And isn't the crime of the Deep State that it punishes the innocent and lets the guilty go free? A state which punishes the innocent is a clear aberration from God's design. I think it is fair to suggest that we should understand the aberration of government as a result of sin.

And your citation of the Papacy is actually rather relevant since it sort of gets into my other post in this thread. The people of Magdeburg were exactly what you cited. They rejected the Papacy yet believed God established just authority according to Romans 13 as all Lutherans do.

In reality, I believe the Pope is an office of antichrist acting in pretense against the original basis of its authority. The Bishop of Rome was one of the metropolitan leaders of the early Christian faith but over time they abused the claims of Peter's succession as a claim to authority above all Christians and bolstered such claims with forged documentations. This was rejected first by the Eastern Orthodox during the Great Schism and later by the Protestants who were fed up ith Papal abuses. The Pope chose to excommunicate and Martin Luther and others were forced to establish a Christianity which relied on the Bible not the Pope as its basic authority.

Their proposed resolution of the early Lutherans in Magdeburg was to recognize that each individual magistrate had an accounting to God and it is the duty of a proper God fearing magistrate to protect his or her citizens. And as with all Patriots, the tree of liberty was watered with their blood when the Pope inspired the Holy Roman Emperor to murder them in cold blood. But this is the beginning of what led to the eventual establishment of Western democracies where the magistracy is the property of the citizenry rather than hereditary rulers. Much of the rhetoric of the American Revolution revolves around establishment of the injustice and tyranny of the rulers they rejected and the intention to establish a more perfect and just system.

The issue now is that We the People are being usurped by would be monarchs who are themselves engaged in rebellion against just authority.

Just because God establishes the authority doesn't mean it is being executed according to His intentions. The stated purpose for God giving the "authority of the sword" to ruling authorities in Romans 13 is "punishing evildoers," was it not?

And isn't the crime of the Deep State that it punishes the innocent and lets the guilty go free? A state which punishes the innocent is a clear aberration from God's design. I think it is fair to suggest that we should understand the aberration of government as a result of sin.

And your citation of the Papacy is actually rather relevant since it sort of gets into my other post in this thread. The people of Magdeburg were exactly what you cited. They rejected the Papacy yet believed God established just authority according to Romans 13 as all Lutherans do. Their proposed resolution was to recognize that each individual magistrate had an accounting to God and it is the duty of a proper God fearing magistrate to protect his or her citizens. This is the beginning of what led to the eventual establishment of Western democracies where the magistracy is the property of the citizenry rather than hereditary rulers. Much of the rhetoric of the American Revolution revolves around establishment of the injustice and tyranny of the rulers they rejected and the intention to establish a more perfect and just system.

The issue now is that We the People are being usurped by would be monarchs who are themselves engaged in rebellion against just authority.