People don’t die by the weekly average, it’s not how death tends to work. There’s trends that can be seen over the course of years overlayed over months and seasons but there’s no death week and there’s no consistent weekly death rate.

I agree! However to fill in SOME data to get an idea of the complete death toll there are numbers that need to be put in. The data you presented goes to November 1st, so it cannot be equated to the death toll for the entire year, and it's absolutely silly to assume that the total number of deaths from Nov 1 to Jan 1 is zero, so before we have the data we can really go by logical assumption.

I agree there's no consistent weekly death rate. I was only going by the death rate of the previous weeks, which we can at least see stays above a certain mark. There is no reason to believe the death count for the remaining weeks of the year would remain zero.

According to your data 576,000 people died in the months of April-May, so another 2 month period is not an unfair assessment to consider that potentially 600,000 died. But again, I also gave you a favorable figure of 40K deaths per week (about 320,000 deaths from Nov 1 to Jan 1) to fill out the rest of the year and the grand total is still 2.99 million. Any way you slice it, the jump from 2019 is significant.

By what mechanisms are you imagining they “discover” 100-1000 deaths in any given week or month in their accounting process? 100,000 people float up on lakes for that Nov 1 shift?

Not exactly on a single date of November 1st, but essentially yes. Bodies can be discovered, reports from different hospitals can come in late or adjusted, a ton of things can happen that data would be incorrect, hence why they'd also have to subtract death counts other months. One thing that should be understood is that data is not automatically tallied, but manually gathered. Especially when tallies are taken every single week, there will inevitably be weeks where not every single morgue of every single city in every single state is going to report accurately every time. That's the trouble with human error.

From what? From fucking what? Cancer? Flu? Heart disease? Respiratory disease? Random ducking chance? If there’s overlap then the cause of death wasn’t COVID.

Yes. From all of those things. If their death was caused by COVID, then it was caused by COVID. A person who had cancer might die in 2020, but if complications arise from catching COVID that kill them sooner, then their death is caused by COVID officially.. I absolutely agree with you that this can be misleading, and that of the 500,000 reported COVID deaths, many of them were probably also caused by underlying conditions. But that doesn't change the fact that the overall deaths per year increased significantly from 2019 to 2020.

This isn’t a random array of data this is dead people and what overwhelmingly kills people in America are complications with longterm underlying illnesses combined with new ones. Very rarely can a death actually be narrowed down to a singular cause they just fit nicer on paper that way - think about how many events it takes for someone to die of only and specifically Cancer. Cancer cells need to be blocking a particular function to kill you but the cause is cancer not the particular mechanism. Why is it Cancer? Because the body is riddled with cancer. Why is it Covid? Because we managed to force a positive result on this PCR.

Agreed! It's a very complicated and messy process. COVID can cause complications in the body, and doubly so on someone with underlying conditions.

The increase of death is by definition an additive value if it weren’t then how is it the virus is deadly????

Because it hasn't only killed people with cancer or people who were on their last legs. It has also killed healthy people.

I agree! However to fill in SOME data to get an idea of the complete death toll there are numbers that need to be put in. The data you presented goes to November 1st, so it cannot be equated to the death toll for the entire year.

I agree there's no consistent weekly death rate. I was only going by the death rate of the previous weeks, which we can at least see stays above a certain mark. There is no reason to believe the death count for the remaining weeks of the year would remain zero.

According to your data 576,000 people died in the months of April-May, so another 2 month period is not an unfair assessment to consider that potentially 600,000 died. But again, I also gave you a favorable figure of 40K deaths per week (about 320,000 deaths from Nov 1 to Jan 1) to fill out the rest of the year and the grand total is still 2.99 million. Any way you slice it, the jump from 2019 is significant.

By what mechanisms are you imagining they “discover” 100-1000 deaths in any given week or month in their accounting process? 100,000 people float up on lakes for that Nov 1 shift?

Not exactly on a single date of November 1st, but essentially yes. Bodies can be discovered, reports from different hospitals can come in late or adjusted, a ton of things can happen that data would be incorrect, hence why they'd also have to subtract death counts other months. One thing that should be understood is that data is not automatically tallied, but manually gathered. Especially when tallies are taken every single week, there will inevitably be weeks where not every single morgue of every single city in every single state is going to report accurately every time. That's the trouble with human error.

From what? From fucking what? Cancer? Flu? Heart disease? Respiratory disease? Random ducking chance? If there’s overlap then the cause of death wasn’t COVID.

Yes. From all of those things. If their death was caused by COVID, then it was caused by COVID. A person who had cancer might die in 2020, but if complications arise from catching COVID that kill them sooner, then their death is caused by COVID officially.. I absolutely agree with you that this can be misleading, and that of the 500,000 reported COVID deaths, many of them were probably also caused by underlying conditions. But that doesn't change the fact that the overall deaths per year increased significantly from 2019 to 2020.

This isn’t a random array of data this is dead people and what overwhelmingly kills people in America are complications with longterm underlying illnesses combined with new ones. Very rarely can a death actually be narrowed down to a singular cause they just fit nicer on paper that way - think about how many events it takes for someone to die of only and specifically Cancer. Cancer cells need to be blocking a particular function to kill you but the cause is cancer not the particular mechanism. Why is it Cancer? Because the body is riddled with cancer. Why is it Covid? Because we managed to force a positive result on this PCR.

Agreed! It's a very complicated and messy process. COVID can cause complications in the body, and doubly so on someone with underlying conditions.

The increase of death is by definition an additive value if it weren’t then how is it the virus is deadly????

Because it hasn't only killed people with cancer or people who were on their last legs. It has also killed healthy people.