How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

Declaration of independence recognises your laws are "from above" u/MemeYourDreams . And as such cannot be retracted by a man. Bible recognises you as individual.No ruller or "society" can claim you not matter as individual if there is/could be GOD-highest authority claiming otherwise

Doesn't matter man is "pope", Joe Bidet,Camela Harris,Hillary Killnton, Xi, Putin or any person who live,lived,will live. God's given. If you are atheist you shall be even more sure about it as if Christ will not return... Got it ?

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

And the reason of it is your choice not somebody else is like u/okaydoomer states:

Proper authority belongs to God

So as human isn't god things given by god cannot be lawfully taken by man - what I stated already above. What to not understand here ?

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

Declaration of independence recognises your laws are "from above" u/MemeYourDreams . And as such cannot be retracted by a man.

Doesn't matter man is "pope", Joe Bidet,Camela Harris,Hillary Killnton, Xi, Putin or any person who live,lived,will live. God's given. If you are atheist you shall be even more sure about it as if Christ will not return... Got it ?

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

And the reason of it is your choice not somebody else is like u/okaydoomer states:

Proper authority belongs to God

So as human isn't god things given by god cannot be lawfully taken by man - what I stated already above. What hard to understand here ?

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

Declaration of independence recognises your laws are "from above" u/MemeYourDreams . And as such cannot be retracted by a man.

Doesn't matter man is "pope", Joe Bidet,Camela Harris,Hillary Killnton, Xi, Putin or any person who live,lived,will live. God's given. If you are atheist you shall be even more sure about it as if Christ will not return... Got it ?

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

And the reason of it is your choice not somebody else is like u/okaydoomer states:

Proper authority belongs to God

So as human isn't god things given by god cannot be lawfully taken by man - what I stated already above. What to not understand here ?

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

Declaration of independence recognises your laws are "from above" u/MemeYourDreams . And as such cannot be retracted by a man.

Doesn't matter man is "pope", Joe Bidet,Camela Harris,Hillary Killnton, Xi, Putin or any person who live,lived,will live. God's given. If you are atheist you shall be even more sure about it as if Christ will not return... Got it ?

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

And the reason of it is your choice not somebody else is like u/okaydoomer states:

Proper authority belongs to God

So as human isn't god things given by God cannot be lawfully taken by man.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

Declaration of independence recognises your laws are "from above" u/MemeYourDreams . And as such cannot be retracted by a man.

Doesn't matter man is "pope", Joe Bidet,Camela Harris,Hillary Killnton, Xi, Putin or any person who live,lived,will live. God's given. If you are atheist you shall be even more sure about it as if Christ will not return... Got it ?

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

And the reason of it is your choice not somebody else is like u/okaydoomer states:

Proper authority belongs to God

So as human isn't god things given by god cannot be lawfully taken by man.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. You matter - you are not "zero", not "nothing" like some collectivists would say ! Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is mainly because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice.In our culture - you matter. If it is anywhere on the world as well - it is only because of our cultural influence.Call it colonialism if you are marxist moron - but this influence is good. But our culture is anchor of that ideas. Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care,it is YOUR choice.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbours together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything.

European civilization and America is great because recognises you as individual and individual rights. Because our culture recognise YOU and YOUR person as important as PERSON not as "part of collective". Roots of it are in big part Christian.Even if Bible claims freedom of "choicing bad" is result of sin - you are allowed to choice. Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of** Nature's God entitle them**, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ? It is not really about forcing you to believe in God you fool. But you share our common cultural values or not. Look at it:

Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows.

“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.

I don't care about all the other things really - french revolution or not.I removed answer to anything else because this thing above is key to everything. European civilization and America is great because recognises individual and individual rights. Roots of it are in big part Christian.Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

Wipe out Christian roots of our civilization - what will you get ?

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet" wrote you will get this:

... The party is the hand of a million-finger, | one crushing fist clenched. | individual - zero, individual - nonsense | alone - will not move a five-inch log, | even if she were a great figure, | what to do to raise a five-story house. | The party is the shoulders of millions of people | tightly pressed to each other - | I will lift buildings up to heaven, | tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. | The party is a working-class prayer pile. | The party is the immortality of our cause. | The party is one thing that will not betray me. | Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. | The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of | the class - here's what a party is. | Party and Lenin - twin brothers - | who does mother history value more? | We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, | we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin. |

You get it ? That you could get after "separation of church and state". You can believe in god or not,but state values shall be Christian. Because only because of those Christian values you are free to chose you believe or not,and because of those Christian values you are recognised as individual deserving human rights.

Compare those above to this:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of** Nature's God entitle them**, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world: ...

Fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ?

I don't care about all the other.I removed answer to anything else because it is key to everything. European civilization and America is great because recognises individual and individual rights. Roots of it are Christian. Deal with that or be puppet or enemies of freedom - I don't care.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. If it will be not called religion - it will be "secular" ideology behaving like religion and being de facto religion.

People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

And both marxism,fascism,islam and other such ideas claim:

The individual is nonsense / The individual is zero

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet". And if you not know those terrible poem I would translate you it longer:

The party is the hand of a million-finger, one crushing fist clenched. individual - zero, individual - nonsense, alone - will not move a five-inch log, even if she were a great figure, what to do to raise a five-story house. The party is the shoulders of millions of people tightly pressed to each other - I will lift buildings up to heaven, tensing muscles and breathing in a lot. The party is a working-class prayer pile. The party is the immortality of our cause. The party is one thing that will not betray me. Today I jam a shop assistant, and tomorrow I wipe the empire off the map. The brain of the class, the matter of class, the strength of the class, the pride of the class - here's what a part is. Party and Lenin - twin brothers - who does mother history value more? We say - Lenin, and implicitly - a party, we say - the party, and implicitly - Lenin.

The French Elites were massive! and their citizens were miserable

Not so massive,and their citizens were not more miserable than anywhere else earlier or later in fact. In fact city workers in XIX century were having less than feudal peasant. And the fact of the hunger caused by British "free trade" and by banksters who indebted French state.

All guilt of Louis XV was he was average man who has so little luck to be born a king. Believe me - if you would became president of USA tomorrow you wouldn't be any better than Louis XV,and you would be totally dependant of officials - some of which could be (are !) traitors. He wasn't totally good - ok.

But fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ?

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism/fascism or by Muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

I repeat. On free place after some church will go another. If it will be not called religion - it will be "secular" ideology behaving like religion and being de facto religion.

People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall... Especially because those deification will in fact not deification of society,but ITS RULLERS.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

And both marxism,fascism,islam and other such ideas claim:

The individual is nonsense / The individual is zero

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet". And if you not know those terrible poem I would translate you all of it.

The French Elites were massive! and their citizens were miserable

Not so massive,and their citizens were not more miserable than anywhere else earlier or later in fact. In fact city workers in XIX century were having less than feudal peasant. And the fact of the hunger caused by British "free trade" and by banksters who indebted French state.

All guilt of Louis XV was he was average man who has so little luck to be born a king. Believe me - if you would became president of USA tomorrow you wouldn't be any better than Louis XV,and you would be totally dependant of officials - some of which could be (are !) traitors. He wasn't totally good - ok.

But fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die. Why you think left mainstream is so supporting "secularism" ?

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis. Which killed more people than inquisition,burning witches and muslim fundamentalism altogether during its whole existence - in just one century...

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism or by muslim fundamentalists. Are you sure you want to fight on right side ?

People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall...

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

And both marxism,fascism,islam and other such ideas claim:

The individual is nonsense / The individual is zero

Like said Vladimir Mayakovsky - soviet propagandist "poet".

The French Elites were massive! and their citizens were miserable

Not so massive,and their citizens were not more miserable than anywhere else earlier or later in fact. In fact city workers in XIX century were having less than feudal peasant. And the fact of the hunger caused by British "free trade" and by banksters who indebted French state.

All guilt of Louis XV was he was average man who has so little luck to be born a king. Believe me - if you would became president of USA tomorrow you wouldn't be any better than Louis XV,and you would be totally dependant of officials - some of which could be (are !) traitors. He wasn't totally good - ok.

But fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die.

How much rational thought did religious suppress? Dark Ages anyone?

Those "rational thought" without god and morality gave us communists and nazis.

And dark ages weren't so dark because there was light during this times. Those remaining light was preserved in monasteries in fact.

I will fucking fight for separation of Church and State

Which church ? At the end because of separation of Christianity and the state the state will be overtaken by satanists paedophiles (cabal we are against today) praising communism or by muslim fundamentalists.

People will believe one thing or another. And worst thing people can deify is themselves - hubris is always before the fall.

The thing is in fact not even about the church or thing you believe in god or not. The thing is that fighting against Christianity is fighting against society and its morality,its culture and so on. You are on marxist highway to marxist hell then.

The French Elites were massive! and their citizens were miserable

Not so massive,and their citizens were not more miserable than anywhere else earlier or later in fact. In fact city workers in XIX century were having less than feudal peasant. And the fact of the hunger caused by British "free trade" and by banksters who indebted French state.

All guilt of Louis XV was he was average man who has so little luck to be born a king. Believe me - if you would became president of USA tomorrow you wouldn't be any better than Louis XV,and you would be totally dependant of officials - some of which could be (are !) traitors. He wasn't totally good - ok.

But fundamental thing is individual freedom has roots in Christianity you like it or not.That is the reason why "separation of church and state" is dangerous idea.Kill the roots,tree will die.