Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, their mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower (comparable to that of a seasonal flu), whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The statistic of 0.15% is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West (it was an apple to oranges comparison). Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (i.e. , political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Hopefully that helps you make sense of the seemingly contradictory narratives coming from 'our side' on this topic.

If I were trying to red pill someone on India specifically, then I'd probably still want to do some more digging to be able to answer some counter points more fully (this digging might also reveal more nuance or slight modifications to the above breakdown of the situation). Overall though, I believe the above roughly captures the big picture for India's COVID "crisis".

With that said, there is one story related to the India story which does serve as a potentially good, stand alone red pill (without getting into all of the other context for the India situation). That's the gas leak explosion photo from either a year ago or a decade ago (not sure which it is, I've seen it as 1 year and 11 years in separate reporting) being portrayed as "people dying in the streets of COVID in India, be afraid of the Indian variant!" by our MSM. Great example of fake news and MSM manipulation. When they got caught, they retracted that part of the story, replacing the photo with another from India.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (i.e. , political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Hopefully that helps you make sense of the seemingly contradictory narratives coming from 'our side' on this topic.

If I were trying to red pill someone on India specifically, then I'd probably still want to do some more digging to be able to answer some counter points more fully (this digging might also reveal more nuance or slight modifications to the above breakdown of the situation). Overall though, I believe the above roughly captures the big picture for India's COVID "crisis".

With that said, there is one story related to the India story which does serve as a potentially good, stand alone red pill (without getting into all of the other context for the India situation). That's the gas leak explosion photo from either a year ago or a decade ago (not sure which it is, I've seen it as 1 year and 11 years in separate reporting) being portrayed as "people dying in the streets of COVID in India, be afraid of the Indian variant!" by our MSM. Great example of fake news and MSM manipulation. When they got caught, they retracted that part of the story, replacing the photo with another from India.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (i.e. , political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Hopefully that helps you make sense of the seemingly contradictory narratives coming from 'our side' on this topic.

If I were trying to red pill someone on India specifically, then I'd probably still want to do some more digging to be able to answer some counter points more fully (this digging might also reveal more nuance or slight modifications to the above breakdown of the situation). Overall though, I believe the above roughly captures the big picture for India's COVID "crisis".

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (i.e. , political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Hopefully that helps you make sense of the seemingly contradictory narratives coming from 'our side' on this topic.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (i.e. , political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM played this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM plagued this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.

Here's a way to reconcile the two points which as you mention could be in contradiction. I've done some reading on the India situation, but haven't read all of the material I've dug up on it.

1. India has done remarkably well compared to many countries throughout the pandemic, in large part because of their widespread use of Ivermectin and HCQ. As such, they mortality rate for COVID was substantially lower, comparable to a seasonal flu, whereas COVID in Western countries (where Ivermectin and HCQ were not heavily utilized), the mortality rate of COVID was maybe 2-3x worse than a severe flu , with ~0.15% averaged over age groups (still not bad, but worse than India). The latter number is of course inflated by counting flu deaths and co-morbidity deaths as being caused by COVID.

2. I've read that around January, India's usage of Ivermectin dropped off. They supposedly switched to a less effective treatment. As such, the cases and deaths began to rise to levels more typical of Western countries, with that (inflated) mortality of ~0.15%

3. Coverage from our MSM was dishonest, in that what happened in India could not happen in the West. Our mortality wouldn't suddenly rise, because we were already near the 0.15% (whereas India was simply making up ground on us, so to speak). Our MSM plagued this off as "variants" for their scare tactics.

4. Coverage from India's MSM may have also been a bit dishonest, in favor of reducing panic and anger within the country (political stability). But I don't belive it was nearly as dishonest as our MSM. I did hear that the Indian hospitals weren't that bad there in terms of COVID, and even if the rate of cases and deaths increased by say a factor of 2-3x, it would not amount to the crisis our MSM portrayed it to be.

5. That brings us to around now. India reverts back to using Ivermectin and HCQ more heavily, cases and deaths begin to drop.

The one point I haven't touched on here is their vaccine effort. I've read that the rise in cases and deaths in India also coincides with their mass vaccinations, but haven't read enough to comment on whether I believe the vaccines to have played a significant role in the situation taking place in India or not.