I don't know for sure, only going by what other people are saying, basically. But I went back and listened to the Mike Adams thing again,

https://www.brighteon.com/7c129e86-7e2b-47a7-bc74-dd19621e4042

At 20:25 he starts talking about suramin, "antidote has been known by the elite for almost a hundred years" and "it was originally designed from the extract of pine needle oil." He's reading from an article, at 22:25 "this article says that the whole herbal source, the whole extract, is superior to the single compound, suramin, because the needle possesses a full complement of phytonutrients."

Before that, he's talking about pine needle tea and suramin both, makes it sound like they're the same. If you look online now, there's a lot of people saying it's extracted from pine needle oil, looks like the same quote is being used everywhere. But, I tried searching only up to the beginning of this year and found this,

https://livepine.com/products/red-pine-needle-oil-2oz

"Red Pine Needle Oil 2oz provides you best health related benefits. It contains shikimic acid which is one of the key constituents in making Suramin, and other safe natural products for human health."

So Mike Adams says it was designed from an extract of pine needle oil, and this page says shikimic acid is used in making it, again from the pine oil. It doesn't sound like it's actually found in the needles themselves.

I tried looking for something on how the drug was developed but didn't find anything. Found this though,

https://mockingbirdmeadows.com/2021/05/11/pine-needle-tea-suramin-and-covid-shots/

"Further, to say that they were part of the compounds that built Suramin is a bit of a stretch. A piece of the molecular structure of something that was derived from pine oil was the “starting point” for the synthesis of Suramin."

So there's another opinion on the internet, basically. Next bit there sounds like it might be something to look into?

"If you choose not to use Suramin, there is a possible plant alternative- and that is kudzu (Peuraria montana var. lobata). Kudzu root is readily available, invasive even! It looks as though it inhibits the P2X7 purinergic receptor just as Suramin does. Whether or not that is the exact same action of Suramin that we would be looking for in the case of spike proteins I’ll leave to someone else who would like to dive into that particular rabbit hole."

I don't know for sure, only going by what other people are saying, basically. But I went back and listened to the Mike Adams thing again,

https://www.brighteon.com/7c129e86-7e2b-47a7-bc74-dd19621e4042

At 20:25 he starts talking about suramin, "antidote has been known by the elite for almost a hundred years" and "it was originally designed from the extract of pine needle oil." He's reading from an article, at 22:25 "this article says that the whole herbal source, the whole extract, is superior to the single compound, suramin, because the needle possesses a full complement of phytonutrients."

Before that, he's talking about pine needle tea and suramin both, makes it sound like they're the same. If you look online now, there's a lot of people saying it's extracted from pine needle oil,looks like the same quote is being used everywhere. But, I tried searching only up to the beginning of this year and found this,

https://livepine.com/products/red-pine-needle-oil-2oz

"Red Pine Needle Oil 2oz provides you best health related benefits. It contains shikimic acid which is won of the key constituent in making Suramin, and other safe natural products for human health."

So Mike Adams says it was designed from an extract of pine needle oil, and this page says shikimic acid is used in making it, again from the pine oil. It doesn't sound like it's actually found in the needles themselves.

I tried looking for something on how the drug was developed but didn't find anything. Found this though,

https://mockingbirdmeadows.com/2021/05/11/pine-needle-tea-suramin-and-covid-shots/

"Further, to say that they were part of the compounds that built Suramin is a bit of a stretch. A piece of the molecular structure of something that was derived from pine oil was the “starting point” for the synthesis of Suramin."

So there's another opinion on the internet, basically. Next bit there sounds like it might be something to look into?

"If you choose not to use Suramin, there is a possible plant alternative- and that is kudzu (Peuraria montana var. lobata). Kudzu root is readily available, invasive even! It looks as though it inhibits the P2X7 purinergic receptor just as Suramin does. Whether or not that is the exact same action of Suramin that we would be looking for in the case of spike proteins I’ll leave to someone else who would like to dive into that particular rabbit hole."