We simply don’t know, because there was no way Pence was going to certify the election.

Say Pence is Deep State. Pence is not going to certify the election. Deep State desperate to get back power.

Say Pence is a Patriot. Pence is not going to certify the election. The crime will be allowed to happen so the full scope and participants can be known and prosecuted.

Trump did trash Pence to a certain degree.

We simply don’t know, because there was no way Pence was going to not certify the election.

Say Pence is Deep State. Pence is not going to certify the election. Deep State desperate to get back power.

Say Pence is a Patriot. Pence is not going to certify the election. The crime will be allowed to happen so the full scope and participants can be known and prosecuted.

Trump did trash Pence to a certain degree.