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Solar panels and wind turbines are negative returns on energy and extremely heavy polluters. You need a boatload of fossil fuels to have the machinery and manufacturing in place to create them.

That is a problem of manufacturing and recycling infrastructure, as I stated already. These things are not being brought to market with these things in mind, because the market is not "free" but rather superdupermega controlled by the PTB.

Once drilled, oil and gas wells are extremely low-pollution

I don't actually give a crap about CO2. There is no data that supports CO2 being problematic in the scope that humans produce. Its the other pollutants that are problematic, including in the extraction process, the shipping process, the refining process and the burning process. Its not that clean. It may not be as dirty as "Climatologists" suggest (to me Climatologist = Climate Scientologist), but it is dirty, and solar could be very nearly completely free of pollutants if there were infrastructure in place for its manufacture and recycling (as I stated above).

The only energy source that is CO2 free is nuclear and radiation-based generation

Again, I don't care about CO2. Its a red herring. i am talking about pollution. I am a huge fan of nuclear energy, but it also has its pollution. It is not pollution free at all. That doesn't mean it can't be taken care of (infrastructure), but that infrastructure does not currently exist, just like it doesn't exist for solar.

3 years ago
1 score
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Solar panels and wind turbines are negative returns on energy and extremely heavy polluters. You need a boatload of fossil fuels to have the machinery and manufacturing in place to create them.

That is a problem of manufacturing and recycling infrastructure, as I stated already. These things are not being brought to market with these things in mind, because the market is not "free" but rather superdupermega controlled by the PTB.

Once drilled, oil and gas wells are extremely low-pollution

I don't actually give a crap about CO2. There is no data that supports CO2 being problematic in the scope that humans produce. Its the other pollutants that are problematic, including in the extraction process, the shipping process, the refining process and the burning process. Its not that clean. It may not be as dirty as "Climatologists" suggests (to me Climatologist = Climate Scientologist), but it is dirty, and solar could be very nearly completely free of pollutants if there were infrastructure in place for its manufacture and recycling (as I stated above).

The only energy source that is CO2 free is nuclear and radiation-based generation

Again, I don't care about CO2. Its a red herring. i am talking about pollution. I am a huge fan of nuclear energy, but it also has its pollution. It is not pollution free at all. That doesn't mean it can't be taken care of (infrastructure), but that infrastructure does not currently exist, just like it doesn't exist for solar.

3 years ago
1 score