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I don't understand why I haven't heard of Cease and Desist letters being sent out by lawyers

Attorneys today are just like medical doctors today. They are taught a narrow slice of law, and all of it benefits the "machine," not the People.

I quickly learned I was getting the runaround by my insurance company.

I understand insurance companies. Without going into detail, I used to fight them on "legal grounds" but without literally legal grounds, since that was not my job. Bottom line: they are bullies who try to cheat everyone, but if you understand the law, they can be made to bend the knee and do what they are supposed to do -- usually, not always.

The situation we are all in now is similar. I know most people don't have a belief they can fight this on their own, which is what these companies are counting on.

But the attorneys are not that damn great, most of them. There are a few exceptions, of course, but it is the same small percentage as in the medical industry. By definition, most people are average, no matter what their chosen profession. And half of the rest are below average, by definition (basic bell curve).

it is HQed in the U.S.

They are operating in the USA, so that is what matters most, but probably helps that they are HQ in USA.

The email sent out by the company comes from Human Resources, who I know take direction from the top executives of the corporation.

Of course, they have their organizational chart, and the people making the decisions don't want to get their hands dirty.

I was at a restaurant the other day, and it is a franchise setup. I know the owner of the franchise (not friends, but have had casual conversations before). I took him aside and asked him why he has his employees wearing face masks. He said it is "corporate." I asked if he would do it if it were up to him. He said no. Maybe he was lying, but he seemed genuine. These corporations make it tough to deal with by going through layers -- just like government.

The lawyers there are always in the background and they're paid to defend generally whatever the executive staff dictate.

Exactly correct. But don't assume they are brilliant. Some might be, but most are followers, just like everyone else.

So, all of this is through the gatekeepers and not getting to the people who are in charge.

Right. I have responded to some other anons here about similar situations. I don't know how those situations turned out. But here are a couple of threads, that might be of help in formulating your strategy:

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvRZIAA/i-work-for-a-corporate-giant-and/c/

https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzjnoP4s/need-a-little-help-husband-is-lo/c/

In a big company like yours, I would start with an email chain to the HR. They might or might not pass it along up the chain, but doesn't really matter.

I would be asking a series of questions "for clarification" (i.e. not being confrontational) -- at first.

At some point, I would forward that chain to the CEO, legal department, and the individual members of the Board of Directors, if and when I thought it was time to throw the Hail Mary. (Do something they are NOT expecting -- the members of the Board are NOT expecting to get a legal notice, for example.)

No matter what, getting a WRITTEN record of communication cannot hurt and can likely help later, if you pursue legal action.

The reality is we are in unchartered territory. Most attorneys are afraid to make waves. Any lawsuit will have to rely partly on common law principles (right to not be injected with an unknown substance which has no scientific basis to believe is safe or effective, coercion, violation of rights, fraud, etc.).

Today's attorneys are simply not taught to think like this. They are taught to "paint by numbers" and plug the round peg in the round hole, and the square peg in the square hole. They are not taught to think for themselves when it comes to FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM, which is what this is.

Takes balls and brains. Most of them are lacking.

BOTTOM LINE: They have NO legal authority to force an experimental drug on you. It is coercion. It is also fraud, since there is NO scientific basis to believe any of the claims they might make. Plus, at some point they will stop communication with you to protect their legal position, and that will show bad faith. All of these things are actionable in court. If the main priority is to get the vaxx mandate to go away and avoid firing/court, then probably getting them documentation that shows they are WRONG as a matter of fact, science, and law, might be the way to go.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

I don't understand why I haven't heard of Cease and Desist letters being sent out by lawyers

Attorneys today are just like medical doctors today. They are taught a narrow slice of law, and all of it benefits the "machine," not the People.

I quickly learned I was getting the runaround by my insurance company.

I understand insurance companies. Without going into detail, I used to fight them on "legal grounds" but without literally legal grounds, since that was not my job. Bottom line: they are bullies who try to cheat everyone, but if you understand the law, they can be made to bend the knee and do what they are supposed to do -- usually, not always.

The situation we are all in now is similar. I know most people don't have a belief they can fight this on their own, which is what these companies are counting on.

But the attorneys are not that damn great, most of them. There are a few exceptions, of course, but it is the same small percentage as in the medical industry. By definition, most people are average, no matter what their chosen profession. And half of the rest are below average, by definition (basic bell curve).

it is HQed in the U.S.

They are operating in the USA, so that is what matters most, but probably helps that they are HQ in USA.

The email sent out by the company comes from Human Resources, who I know take direction from the top executives of the corporation.

Of course, they have their organizational chart, and the people making the decisions don't want to get their hands dirty.

I was at a restaurant the other day, and it is a franchise setup. I know the owner of the franchise (not friends, but have had casual conversations before). I took him aside and asked him why he has his employees wearing face masks. He said it is "corporate." I asked if he would do it if it were up to him. He said no. Maybe he was lying, but he seemed genuine. These corporations make it tough to deal with by going through layers -- just like government.

The lawyers there are always in the background and they're paid to defend generally whatever the executive staff dictate.

Exactly correct. But don't assume they are brilliant. Some might be, but most are followers, just like everyone else.

So, all of this is through the gatekeepers and not getting to the people who are in charge.

Right. I have responded to some other anons here about similar situations. I don't know how those situations turned out. But here are a couple of threads, that might be of help in formulating your strategy:

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvRZIAA/i-work-for-a-corporate-giant-and/c/

https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzjnoP4s/need-a-little-help-husband-is-lo/c/

In a big company like yours, I would start with an email chain to the HR. They might or might not pass it along up the chain, but doesn't really matter.

I would be asking a series of questions "for clarification" (i.e. not being confrontational) -- at first.

At some point, I would forward that chain to the CEO, legal department, and the individual members of the Board of Directors, if and when I thought it was time to through the Hail Mary.

No matter what, getting a WRITTEN record of communication cannot hurt and can likely help later, if you pursue legal action.

The reality is we are in unchartered territory. Most attorneys are afraid to make waves. Any lawsuit will have to rely partly on common law principles (right to not be injected with an unknown substance which has no scientific basis to believe is safe or effective, coercion, violation of rights, fraud, etc.).

Today's attorneys are simply not taught to think like this. They are taught to "paint by numbers" and plug the round peg in the round hole, and the square peg in the square hole. They are not taught to think for themselves when it comes to FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM, which is what this is.

Takes balls and brains. Most of them are lacking.

BOTTOM LINE: They have NO legal authority to force an experimental drug on you. It is coercion. It is also fraud, since there is NO scientific basis to believe any of the claims they might make. Plus, at some point they will stop communication with you to protect their legal position, and that will show bad faith. All of these things are actionable in court. If the main priority is to get the vaxx mandate to go away and avoid firing/court, then probably getting them documentation that shows they are WRONG as a matter of fact, science, and law, might be the way to go.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

I don't understand why I haven't heard of Cease and Desist letters being sent out by lawyers

Attorneys today are just like medical doctors today. They are taught a narrow slice of law, and all of it benefits the "machine," not the People.

I quickly learned I was getting the runaround by my insurance company.

I understand insurance companies. Without going into detail, I used to fight them on "legal grounds" but without literally legal grounds, since that was not my job. Bottom line: they are bullies who try to cheat everyone, but if you understand the law, they can be made to bend the knee and do what they are supposed to do -- usually, not always.

The situation we are all in now is similar. I know most people don't have a belief they can fight this on their own, which is what these companies are counting on.

But the attorneys are not that damn great, most of them. There are a few exceptions, of course, but it is the same small percentage as in the medical industry. By definition, most people are average, no matter what their chosen profession. And half of the rest are below average, by definition (basic bell curve).

it is HQed in the U.S.

They are operating in the USA, so that is what matters most, but probably helps that they are HQ in USA.

The email sent out by the company comes from Human Resources, who I know take direction from the top executives of the corporation.

Of course, they have their organizational chart, and the people making the decisions don't want to get their hands dirty.

I was at a restaurant the other day, and it is a franchise setup. I know the owner of the franchise (not friends, but have had casual conversations before). I took him aside and asked him why he has his employees wearing face masks. He said it is "corporate." I asked if he would do it if it were up to him. He said no. Maybe he was lying, but he seemed genuine. These corporations make it tough to deal with by going through layers -- just like government.

The lawyers there are always in the background and they're paid to defend generally whatever the executive staff dictate.

Exactly correct. But don't assume they are brilliant. Some might be, but most are followers, just like everyone else.

So, all of this is through the gatekeepers and not getting to the people who are in charge.

Right. I have responded to some other anons here about similar situations. I don't know how those situations turned out. But here are a couple of threads, that might be of help in formulating your strategy:

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvRZIAA/i-work-for-a-corporate-giant-and/c/

https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzjnoP4s/need-a-little-help-husband-is-lo/c/

In a big company like yours, I would start with an email chain to the HR. They might or might not pass it along up the chain, but doesn't really matter.

I would be asking a series of questions "for clarification" (i.e. not being confrontational) -- at first.

At some point, I would forward that chain to the CEO, legal department, and the individual members of the Board of Directors, if and when I thought it was time to through the Hail Mary.

No matter what, getting a WRITTEN record of communication cannot hurt and can likely help later, if you pursue legal action.

The reality is we are in unchartered territory. Most attorneys are afraid to make waves. Any lawsuit will have to rely partly on common law principles (right to not be injected with an unknown substance which has no scientific basis to believe is safe or effective, coercion, violation of rights, fraud, etc.).

Today's attorneys are simply not taught to think like this. They are taught to "paint by numbers" and plug the round peg in the round hole, and the square peg in the square hole. They are not taught to think for themselves when it comes to FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM, which is what this is.

Takes balls and brains. Most of them are lacking.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

I don't understand why I haven't heard of Cease and Desist letters being sent out by lawyers

Attorneys today are just like medical doctors today. They are taught a narrow slice of law, and all of it benefits the "machine," not the People.

I quickly learned I was getting the runaround by my insurance company.

I understand insurance companies. Without going into detail, I used to fight them on "legal grounds" but without literally legal grounds, since that was not my job. Bottom line: they are bullies who try to cheat everyone, but if you understand the law, they can be made to bend the knee and do what they are supposed to do -- usually, not always.

The situation we are all in now is similar. I know most people don't have a belief they can fight this on their own, which is what these companies are counting on.

But the attorneys are not that damn great, most of them. There are a few exceptions, of course, but it is the same small percentage as in the medical industry. By definition, most people are average, no matter what their chosen profession. And half of the rest are below average, by definition (basic bell curve).

it is HQed in the U.S.

They are operating in the USA, so that is what matters most, but probably helps that they are HQ in USA.

The email sent out by the company comes from Human Resources, who I know take direction from the top executives of the corporation.

Of course, they have their organizational chart, and the people making the decisions don't want to get their hands dirty.

I was at a restaurant the other day, and it is a franchise setup. I know the owner of the franchise (not friends, but have had casual conversations before). I took him aside and asked him why he has his employees wearing face masks. He said it is "corporate." I asked if he would do it if it were up to him. He said no. Maybe he was lying, but these corporations make it tough to deal with by going through layers -- just like government.

The lawyers there are always in the background and they're paid to defend generally whatever the executive staff dictate.

Exactly correct. But don't assume they are brilliant. Some might be, but most are followers, just like everyone else.

So, all of this is through the gatekeepers and not getting to the people who are in charge.

Right. I have responded to some other anons here about similar situations. I don't know how those situations turned out. But here are a couple of threads, that might be of help in formulating your strategy:

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvRZIAA/i-work-for-a-corporate-giant-and/c/

https://greatawakening.win/p/13zzjnoP4s/need-a-little-help-husband-is-lo/c/

In a big company like yours, I would start with an email chain to the HR. They might or might not pass it along up the chain, but doesn't really matter.

I would be asking a series of questions "for clarification" (i.e. not being confrontational) -- at first.

At some point, I would forward that chain to the CEO, legal department, and the individual members of the Board of Directors, if and when I thought it was time to through the Hail Mary.

No matter what, getting a WRITTEN record of communication cannot hurt and can likely help later, if you pursue legal action.

The reality is we are in unchartered territory. Most attorneys are afraid to make waves. Any lawsuit will have to rely partly on common law principles (right to not be injected with an unknown substance which has no scientific basis to believe is safe or effective, coercion, violation of rights, fraud, etc.).

Today's attorneys are simply not taught to think like this. They are taught to "paint by numbers" and plug the round peg in the round hole, and the square peg in the square hole. They are not taught to think for themselves when it comes to FIGHTING AGAINST THE SYSTEM, which is what this is.

Takes balls and brains. Most of them are lacking.

3 years ago
1 score