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Slyver --

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My point was, you don’t have to see something (capture reflected light) for something to be detected

My point is this:

Virologists claim that a "virus" exists in reality
They claim it is a physical thing
They claim that it causes people to become sick if it gets inside them
"We," as a society, have created (and allowed to be created) a massive political tyranny of policies due to these beliefs

Therefore ...

The burden of proof is on they who make these claims to prove these claims
It is their burden to isolate and purify this thing, so that nothing but this virus is in some sort of container, so that it can then be anylyzed and studied in a variety of ways
It is their burden to prove that this thing is actually harmful
It is their burden to prove that this thing is actually transmissible and contageous

NONE of that has EVER been done with ANY virus in the history of virology.

Larry Corey, head of NIH Covid vaccine trials, said in 11/20/20, "“The studies aren’t designed to assess transmission. They don’t ask that question, and there’s really no information on this at this point in time.”

That's kind of a big deal. The burden of proof is on he who makes the positive assertion (in this case, that the vaccines prevent transmission). They didn't even look at that.

Guess why? Because NO virus has ever been proven to cause transmission of ANY virual illness. They tried to prove it with the Spanish Flu, and could not. It seems that since then, they stopped trying.

There are now more than 100 institutions around the world (FDA, CDC, NIH, foriegn versions of these, university labs who study viruses, etc.) who have stated on the record that they have NO SARS-CoV-2 VIRUS, ISOLATED FROM ANYTHING ELSE, in their labs, they know of NO lab anywhere in the world that does, and they know of NO PAPER by anyone, anywhere who has demonstrated this.

In a previous thread, I'm pretty sure that you, Slyver, posted a link as a rebuttal to me on this issue, where you claimed that a sample of SARS-CoV-2 could be purchased.

But what it seemed to me that you failed to comprehend was that the link you posted was for a MIXTURE of genetic materials, whereby it was CLAIMED that the virus was "in there."

This is the fundamental point that so many people are missing (including trained virologists): There is NO VIRUS in any test tube or petrie dish anywhere in the world ... that is not ALSO MIXED IN WITH OTHER GENTIC MATERIAL (monkey kidney cells, etc.).

This is THE ONLY WAY that virologists study "viruses."

This is not true for bacteria or other microorganisms -- ONLY viruses.

And it is NOT PROOF of anything, when they are NOT studying ONLY the things they claim to be studying (i.e. a "virus").

This is THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE that you continue to evade and dance around.

There was a time when EVERYBODY (in the "scientific community," such as it was) believed -- REALLY BELIEVED -- that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

EVERYBODY who was anybody believed it. They imprisoned Galileo for claiming otherwise. That is how strong their belief was -- and how universal it was.

But they were ... WRONG.

The same thing is going on TODAY, in the 21st century, when it comes to virology.

Virologists are uniformly of a BELIEF, and that belief is ... NOT BASED ON SCIENCE ... and it is ... WRONG.

OF COURSE, you believe that ALL virologists canNOT possibly be wrong. Of course, you believe it. So did I ... until I looked into what the other side was saying. BTW, that "other side" includes medical doctors, biologists, and one brave virologist who was willing to question the fundamental assumptions that ALL of modern virology is based on -- which is (a) Germ Theory (Pasteur), and (b) the Enders/Pebble paper from 1954.

As a side note, it appears that Louis Pasteur was a snake oil salesman/con man. He LIED about his various experiments, and documented his lies in his diary. But that's a side issue.

Tell me those don’t look uniform.

Again, you are missing the point. FIRST, you have to prove that they ARE virons. Which means: FIRST, you have to prove that viruses are REAL, and not cellular debris. NOBODY has ever done that.

Not to say it [isolating and purifiying a virus] can't be done ...

Virologists say there is "not enough virus" in a bodily sample to "find the virus in it." The head of Wuhan's Virology lab said it. He said you couldn't even find "enough virus" if you had fluids from 10,000 people mixed together.

Question: Then HOW THE HELL DO VIROLOGISTS THINK THEY FIND IT?

Answer: They MIX the bodily sample with OTHER GENETIC MATERIAL, and then ... THEY POISON THE CELLS ...and when the cells die, as they must, the PROCLAIM IT WAS THE VIRUS "IN THERE" THAT DID IT.

ALL of those photos you are looking at are AFTER the "virus" was (a) mixed with OTHER GENETIC MATERIAL, (b) poisoned, and (c) then the CREATION of those things you see in the photos appear.

Those photos were NOT taken of something that was in the human body to begin with. They were CREATED by the PROCESS that virologists use (100% of the time, they use ONLY this process).

How do I KNOW this? Because virologist Stefan Lanka PROVED it -- but YOU do not want to look at that evidence, do you?

We use many experiments and statistics to determine these things.

All of these "markers" and "surrogates" are COP OUTS.

Because virlogists cannot do the BASIC experiment to isolate and purify this thing they CLAIM exists, they make up all sorts of excuses to justify their belief.

That is EXACTLY what the "Sun revolves around the Earth" crowd did. It is scientific cowardace, because it does NOT follow the Scientific Method.

WE KNOW that ALL virologists use the SAME process to "isolate" a virus, which is NOT true isolation (it is MIXED with OTHER genetic material).

THEFORE, ALL of those points you are trying to make about the various surrogates and markers (i.e. cop outs for doing the real thing) are NOT VALID ... scientifically.

You could also just claim to sprinkle some magic fairy dust over the "virus" and its mixed-in-with genetic materials, and call it a day. It would be just as scientific to do so.

If I fractionate a sample, and isolate the fraction that contains the “things” that escaped the cell, and then do a whole genome sequence on them, and find a sequence that is not contained within the cells genome, have I not found something unique?

No, you have not, because that is NOT what virologists do.

You are ASSUMING that virologists somehow "find the virus in there," then pull it out, and then go through the process by fractionation, etc.

That is NOT what happens in those labs.

Every point you are making is about what they do AFTER the INITIAL PROCESS to "isolate" a virus.

What you are missing is that virologists have CHANGED THE DEFINITION of the word "isolate," and they use that term to mean something DIFFERENT than what it means to everyone else.

Here (again) is how it works:

(1) They take a bodily fluid from someone who has symptoms of illness.

(2) They MIX THAT FLUID with OTHER THINGS that HAVE THEIR OWN GENETIC MATERIAL.

(3) They SPREAD this mixture on VERO CELLS (i.e. monkey kidney cells) WHICH HAVE THEIR OWN GENETIC MATERIAL.

(4) Then, they STARVE the cells of nutrients.

(5) Then, the POISON the cells with antibiotics that are SPECIFICALLY TOXIC TO KIDNEY CELLS.

(6) If nothing happens (which is what happened in the original experiments), then they ADD MORE TOXINS.

(7) Eventually, the kidney cells DIE ... which they MUST do, because they are given enough poisons to make that happen.

(8) THEN ... (AND ONLY THEN) ... the virologist declares that it was the VIRUS that killed the kidney cells -- completely IGNORING the FACT that he poisoned the cells with toxins that are designed to kill kidney cells.

THAT is the ENTIRE PROCESS that 100% of virologists use 100% of the time, as the FIRST STEP in "isolating a virus" ... and THEN they go on to do all the things you mention.

AFTER that process is completed, then you can fractionate or do anything you want to the cellular debris that is left over, and it means NOTHING ... because there is NO PROOF that there was ever a REAL VIRUS in there in the first place.

Stefan Lanka PROVED this by doing a CONTROL experiment (which NO other virologist had EVER done in the past 70 years of virology) ... and he got the SAME RESULT when he started with NO fluid from any human.

I challenged you to explain THAT in a previous post ... but you instead IGNORED it.

Don't ignore it anymore.

It is the SUM TOTAL of my position. Everything else you are doing is just using red herring and straw man arguments, which evade the real point.

This is a mischaracterization of the process. First, it’s not “monkey kidney cells.” I am sure there are experiments that use such cell lines, in my lab I worked with several human cell lines (I did not do virus research). To suggest “monkey kidney cells” as if that were some standard thing is inappropriate.

You are wrong. Plain and simple, you are wrong.

Dude, YOU are the one who posted a link for a SARS-CoV-2 sample that a lab could purchase ... and it said it was VERO CELLS.

WTF do you think VERO CELLS are? They are monkey kidney cells.

They ALSO use other genetic material, such as human fetal lung cells from a culture that was started 50 years ago.

What you CONTINUE TO MISS HERE is ... they MIX these materials WITH the thing they claim is a "virus" and then the claim that is "isolation."

Do yourself a favor: Look up the definition of "isolate." It does NOT mean to mix in with a bunch of other stuff.

You say a lot of things in the “process” they use, that is not the actual process they use. I’m not sure where you are getting these ideas. Did you look up one specific experiment and then think that they all follow the same exact protocol? Almost all labs design their own protocols.

No, dude, you have it wrong.

YOU are not a virologist, so you ASSUME that virology works the same as other science.

IT DOES NOT.

Virology is built on fundamental building blocks that are FALSE.

The testing they do is as I described it. ALL of their testing is done this way. They claim it is the ONLY way they can do it.

Judy Mikovitz, a virologist who claims she isolated HIV, was challenged by Andy Kaufman in a Zoom call, and she admitted that this is what she did, because as she stated, it is the ONLY way it can be done.

She has blinders on. She THINKS she is "isolating" the HIV virus, when in fact she is NOT.

You should watch the first video I linked in my OP. It is Kary Mullis explaining how he realized that "HIV causes AIDS" and no scientific backing whatsoever.

He, too, was NOT a virologist. He was a chemist, and he was helping out a virology lab. He ASSUMED (like you do) that virologists must have worked out the "HIV causes AIDS" claim via serious reserach.

He discovered this was not true. There was NO such research. NONE.

Likewise, there has NEVER been ANY virus isolated and purified, in the true sense of what those words mean, even though it is done routinely for bacteria and other microorganism.

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