Excellent points and great perspective. Thank you. I think there’s another part of this that needs saying as well. Many who have been trying to warn their loved ones about the jabs, or about what we believe is going on in the world, are coming from a place of vulnerability. When our loved ones announce intent to make a choice we believe is potentially harmful to them (or to us), it can be difficult to be rational or quiet about it. It can feel very threatening. I completely lost it when my daughter said she might as well just get the jab because it was easier to comply. Ultimately she didn’t get the jabs because she understood my vulnerability - that it would destroy not only me, but her little ones, if something were to happen to her. I also shared my concerns with my granddaughter’s other grandparents because I know how much they mean to her and I wanted to try to spare her the devastation she would feel if she were to lose them. In the end they chose to do what they felt was best for them. When you have mutual respect in a relationship, I think we can try to understand the other person’s feelings and realize some decisions are not made in a vacuum. I think it’s always important in these conversations that pride - and the need to be right - is not a factor on either side. As you said, u/miztivin, we need to always come from a place of love and if that love is rejected, we have to be okay with letting go.

Excellent points and great perspective. Thank you. I think there’s another part of this that needs saying as well. Many who have been trying to warn their loved ones about the jabs, or about what we believe is going on in the world, are coming from a place of vulnerability. When our loved ones announce intent to make a choice we believe is potentially harmful to them (or to us), it can be difficult to be rational or quiet about it. It can feel very threatening. I completely lost it when my daughter said she might as well just get the jab because it was easier to comply. Ultimately she didn’t get the jabs because she understood my vulnerability - that it would destroy not only me, but her little ones, if something were to happen to her. I also shared my concerns with my granddaughter’s other grandparents because I know how much they mean to her and I wanted to try to spare her the devastation she would feel if she were to lose them. In the end they chose to do what they felt was best for them. When you have mutual respect in a relationship, I think we can try to understand the other person’s feelings and realize some decisions are not made in a vacuum. I think it’s always important in these conversations that pride - and the need to be right - is not a factor on either side. As you said, I/Mitzi in, we need to always come from a place of love and if that love is rejected, we have to be okay with letting go.