Explain what? Did you listen to it? He was hired to moderate a discussion and pressed the guy hard, pointed out the issues of corporate control. I thought he did a good job. There is moment about 1/3 of the way through where he stares blankly at something the other guy says. I think it was that moment he understood he was after the kids minds with conditioning. All he needed to do now was give the kids alternate options throughout and it completely wrecks the narrative.

Edit: I listened to it again and even Yuval says the technology is dangerous and in the hands of a few engineers or software guys.

I think he's white hat. He says too many things that would be unnecessary as controlled op.

Explain what? Did you listen to it? He was hired to moderate a discussion and pressed the guy hard, pointed out the issues of corporate control. I thought he did a good job. There is moment about 1/3 of the way through where he stares blankly at something the other guy says. I think it was that moment he understood he was after the kids minds with conditioning. All he needed to do now was give the kids alternate options throughout and it completely wrecks the narrative.

I think he's white hat. He says too many things that would be unnecessary as controlled op.