However, it isn't all a fraud. The best lies are based on truth.

I completely agree! A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down (though this analogy makes a LOT less sense when you recognize that medicine AND sugar are both poison...).

I know a fair bit about physics. I'm not sure why you would assume I don't

Because of what you said! As I explained, you couldn't be more wrong - and newton was not a scientist. In any case, we can always stand to learn a little more (vice versa as well - perhaps you have much more to teach me than I you, and I relish such opportunity!)! Come discuss it with me!

Most of my arguments against flat earth are based on experiments I have personally done

You are only making me want to discuss and evaluate your research more thoroughly. Please! I'm already sold, come discuss and share it further in depth if you are at all interested!

However, it isn't all untrue

Of course not! Who said it was?

Within the scope in which it is applied correctly, it has millions of experiments in support of it.

Incorrect. No experiments of any kind ever could. Please ask me how I know this and how I can prove it. But let's do it on the other community so it can benefit others more readily (ideally) now and in the future! You won't regret it!

Any theory must include all of those experimental results

Agreed! I think you will find we agree about most things!

There is no flat earth theory that does

There is no flat (nor round, or any other shape) earth theory at all!

I have spent a lot of time engaged in that discussion

My condolences. I mourn your (largely) wasted time and effort, as I mourn my own!

I have heard the arguments

Now hear my research findings! If you are at all interested, that is. Argument and debate are for fools. Rational discourse and study for the learned!

Every time I offer an argument in return it is based on physics. All I hear is crickets in response. The most common one being "your education is a fraud."

The "FE" you have experience with is a heavily funded/advertised psyop. Come discuss it with an earnest flat earth researcher, and hopefully others will join in as well. We are students and intellectuals. That said, our education is largely fraud - but that isn't unique to this era, and is ubiquitous throughout all known human history,

then I have every reason to believe that it is FE'ers that are being swindled

Agreed. Agents of the psyop, profiteers, and the useful idiots that repeat the stupid things they are told.

not me who demands that all experimental results be taken into account

Me as well brother, or sister!

I am always in earnest

Then you have integrity, and I now beg you to join me and explore this topic further. I assure you it is well worth the effort.

But FE'ers are not.

That's the psyop. I don't know any flat earthers and there are none on my community. We are flat earth researchers. There is a huge difference, which I hope to share with you.

Answer how Foucault's pendulum works other than by being on a spinning sphere and then I will join the discussion.

Ok, but you won't like it and aren't ready to understand or evaluate/accept the answer. The deflections of pendulums, gyroscopes, and interferometers are caused by the swirling motion of aether, an ultrafine "gaseous" fluid media which pervades all available space. I told you you wouldn't like it!

I have lived on the ocean (or near to it) almost my whole life

You are very lucky!

I have seen countless ships go over the horizon

As have I.

Every single piece of evidence I have seen put out by FE'ers I have shown with math how the curvature of the planet shows that that is exactly what is expected to be seen.

This is incorrect. But it isn't relevant. Let's take our time and start slow shall we? You may be interested to take a look at (get a head start on) the content that is already on the community, as many of my views (as well as discussions with those of an antithetical perspective I've already conducted) are already there in some depth!

I get no such work or respect from FE'ers.

They aren't real, fren. It's a psyop. I am real, respectful and earnest!

I appreciate you believe what you believe, but the evidence does not support the theory

I endeavor to believe nothing, and to excise belief whenever I find it. Belief is the enemy of knowledge (especially scientific), and to objective study of any kind (it's called bias).

I have no scientific theory, nor is one possible/applicable for the shape of anything.

Until someone who has actually studied enough physics to have a mathematical discussion with me steps up to the plate, I am done with that engagement

Fair enough. I am gifted in mathematics and many other things, but it really doesn't have any relevance to this subject. Understanding why will take little more than time and interest on your part. Mathematics is merely a language used for description. When speaking (rational discourse), I prefer english.

I have seen your evidence, and it never stands up to debate

You presume much, though I do expect that you have at least seen some of my evidence. I am an independent researcher, and my research approach and findings are my own. My specific focus is on science and the history thereof. I have come to many interesting conclusions, which you may well never have encountered before.

Debate is base pageantry for sycophantic fools. I prefer rational discourse, and earnest study. Perhaps you may agree?

Please join us. It seems you belong there, and will benefit greatly from the experience (all earnest students do). I recommend beginning by reading my AMA (stickied top thread) but you may engage any way you wish!

However, it isn't all a fraud. The best lies are based on truth.

I completely agree! A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down (though this analogy makes a LOT less sense when you recognize that medicine AND sugar are both poison...).

I know a fair bit about physics. I'm not sure why you would assume I don't

Because of what you said! As I explained, you couldn't be more wrong - and newton was not a scientist. In any case, we can always stand to learn a little more (vice versa as well - perhaps you have much more to teach me than I you, and I relish such opportunity!)! Come discuss it with me!

Most of my arguments against flat earth are based on experiments I have personally done

You are only making me want to discuss and evaluate your research more thoroughly. Please! I'm already sold, come discuss and share it further in depth if you are at all interested!

However, it isn't all untrue

Of course not! Who said it was?

Within the scope in which it is applied correctly, it has millions of experiments in support of it.

Incorrect. No experiments of any kind ever could. Please ask me how I know this and how I can prove it. But let's do it on the other community so it can benefit others more readily (ideally) now and in the future! You won't regret it!

Any theory must include all of those experimental results

Agreed! I think you will find we agree about most things!

There is no flat earth theory that does

There is no flat (nor round, or any other shape) earth theory at all!

I have spent a lot of time engaged in that discussion

My condolences. I mourn your (largely) wasted time and effort, as I mourn my own!

I have heard the arguments

Now hear my research findings! If you are at all interested, that is. Argument and debate are for fools. Rational discourse and study for the learned!

Every time I offer an argument in return it is based on physics. All I hear is crickets in response. The most common one being "your education is a fraud."

The "FE" you have experience with is a heavily funded/advertised psyop. Come discuss it with an earnest flat earth researcher, and hopefully others will join in as well. We are students and intellectuals. That said, our education is largely fraud - but that isn't unique to this era, and is ubiquitous throughout all known human history,

then I have every reason to believe that it is FE'ers that are being swindled

Agreed. Agents of the psyop, profiteers, and the useful idiots that repeat the stupid things they are told.

not me who demands that all experimental results be taken into account

Me as well brother, or sister!

I am always in earnest

Then you have integrity, and I now beg you to join me and explore this topic further. I assure you it is well worth the effort.

But FE'ers are not.

That's the psyop. I don't know any flat earthers and there are none on my community. We are flat earth researchers. There is a huge difference, which I hope to share with you.

Answer how Foucault's pendulum works other than by being on a spinning sphere and then I will join the discussion.

Ok, but you won't like it and aren't ready to understand or evaluate/accept the answer. The deflections of pendulums, gyroscopes, and interferometers are caused by the swirling motion of aether, an ultrafine "gaseous" fluid media which pervades all available space. I told you you wouldn't like it!

I have lived on the ocean (or near to it) almost my whole life

You are very lucky!

I have seen countless ships go over the horizon

As have I.

Every single piece of evidence I have seen put out by FE'ers I have shown with math how the curvature of the planet shows that that is exactly what is expected to be seen.

This is incorrect. But it isn't relevant. Let's take our time and start slow shall we? You may be interested to take a look at (get a head start on) the content that is already on the community, as many of my views (as well as discussions with those of an antithetical perspective I've already conducted) are already there in some depth!

I get no such work or respect from FE'ers.

They aren't real, fren. It's a psyop. I am real, respectful and earnest!

I appreciate you believe what you believe, but the evidence does not support the theory

I endeavor to believe nothing, and to excise belief whenever I find it. Belief is the enemy of knowledge (especially scientific), and to objective study of any kind (it's called bias).

I have no scientific theory, nor is one possible/applicable for the shape of anything.

Until someone who has actually studied enough physics to have a mathematical discussion with me steps up to the plate, I am done with that engagement

Fair enough. I am gifted in mathematics and many other things, but it really doesn't have any relevance to this subject. Understanding why will take little more than time and interest on your part. Mathematics is merely a language used for description. When speaking (rational discourse), I prefer english.

I have seen your evidence, and it never stands up to debate

You presume much, though I do expect that you have at least seen some of my evidence. I am an independent researcher, and my research approach and findings are my own. My specific focus is on science and the history thereof. I have come to many interesting conclusions, which you may well never have encountered before.

Debate is base pageantry for sycophantic fools. I prefer rational discourse, and earnest study. Perhaps you may agree?

Please join us. It seems you belong there, and will benefit greatly from the experience (all earnest student do). I recommend beginning by reading my AMA (stickied top thread) but you may engage any way you wish!